"You never initiate"

[Trump]

how is this is a problem exactly?

there is some confusion in the thread. let me clear it up

i keep telling yuou guys that THIS is the "problem" you should have. you SHOULD be hearing this instead of "i think we need space" or developing a boring routine with a girl.

also, some girls will rarely if EVER at all initiate so get it out of your head that a girl should also initiate and hit u up. DONT ever say anything like "well, you have my number too, it wouldnt kill you to hit me up first now and then"

also, DONT try to remedy the situation by communicating with her more often. remember ACTIONS not words. if you hear her complain about this but shes still going out with you, having sex with you etc then there is no issue. it means her interest level is SOLID

on the other hand, if she complains about this and you feel her interest level is waning, then you pull back even MORE. counter-intuitive but again, actions, not words. watch what they do not what they say. remember that what women say to you is a RATIONALIZATION for their true emotions/intentions.

i will repeat once again. men must learn to PIERCE REALITY WITH YOUR VISION. take a step back and observe your situation objectively from the outside. analyze the situation for what it really is and act accordingly

Only problem is if you do this and then she backs away and starts dating and sleeping other guys, you may start to think "Hey, top level CEOs and actors and politicians and billiionaires do everything they can to attract and keep single young good looking woman. Since I'm a regular regular guy on SS, maybe I should have tried a little harder to keep this one girl I connected with.

Or maybe, SS members having regular jobs and looks and salaries and lives, know more about women than the top level actors and directors and CEOs billionaires?

 

[lizardking82]

Only problem is if you do this and then she backs away and starts dating and sleeping other guys, you may start to think "Hey, top level CEOs and actors and politicians and billiionaires do everything they can to attract and keep single young good looking woman. Since I'm a regular regular guy on SS, maybe I should have tried a little harder to keep this one girl I connected with.

Or maybe, SS members having regular jobs and looks and salaries and lives, know more about women than the top level actors and directors and CEOs billionaires?

You've become like a broken record repeating the same thing over and over again.

 

[Trump]

My response to that has always been "Hey babe. You know how busy I am with everything that I have going on in my busy life. Lets grab a drink _____ and I will make it up to you".

You said you are "busy" two times in one sentence. That means you are not busy and are being pretentious.

You know, when a girl says:

"I don't play games." = "I do play games."
"I hate bad boys." = "I love bad boys."
"Money isn't important to me." = "You better be rich."

Don't over do it with the prententiousness boys, she will see right through it.

 

[QuadDeuces]

Send her a random text every now and then to appease her if she had terrible insecurity.

It's easier to increase communication later on than it is to back off after youve blown her phone up....trust me....you're doing fine.

I disagree a little.
Usually in the beginning I pursue a lot give a lot of (non needy) attention and then once theyre hooked I start to back off a lot more and become colder and give other girls more attention.
With this push pull technique I have had some go in full panic chase mode.
Even to the point they bought me an ipad a gopro and have paid for flights. Its crazy.

 

[Glassguy]

You said you are "busy" two times in one sentence. That means you are not busy and are being pretentious.

You know, when a girl says:

"I don't play games." = "I do play games."
"I hate bad boys." = "I love bad boys."
"Money isn't important to me." = "You better be rich."

Don't over do it with the prententiousness boys, she will see right through it.

You can word it however you'd like. It works

 

[Fireballs]

Wrong.

She wouldn't care or give a s*hit if she had low IL. Quite the opposite.

Who says she cares ? She was sh!t testing me as her attraction/IL was waning. I'm talking about my experience, not everyone's.

 

[R.U.G.]

You contact the woman once per week, that is it for at least 2 months. If she complains, just state you are busy with work, life, etc. If she reaches out to you, you can respond, but wait an hour or two. If she's blowing up your phone, then in 40 mins, you text her, babe, I'm in a meeting (or whatever), will get back to you tonight. Women only want what they cannot have. Once you give them what they want, then they lose interest. Makes little sense, but when has a woman ever made sense?

 

[Masculinity]

Some women complain that I almost never initiate, yet they don't let more than 12 hours to a day without initiating themselves. How do you handle this, if it happens?

Initiate what?

Calls? Kissing? Sex? Compliments? Kink?

 

[TBG]

Women are (as well as being in general) crazy like that.

Was texting this girl. She completely disappeared mid conversation for a few days. She then gets back in touch. I don't reply to her message as it's late at night and I want to go to sleep. I wake up and she's blown up my phone asking why I'm ignoring her and telling me she's now made other plans due to me ignoring her.

***** you ignored me for days and you're getting upset that I 'ignored' you for less than 12 hours. What. The. ****.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Women who ask why you don't initiate more are speaking "Woman-ease" as Pook would say.

"Why don't you initiate?" is proxy for "Do you like me (as I see you have not reached out per the male role)"

And this type of question is asked by women who are too impatient to allow the man space to show his initiative (aka his interest).

And that is why so many women do NOT initiate (myself included.). If a woman is patient to await the man to contact her first, which shows interest....she will then respond timely to his contact in a warm responsive manner.

I know men who ask me out are interested in me. Their action to contact me demonstrates their interest. My positive response demonstrates my interest in return.

Don't expect women to assume the masculine role early in a dating interaction by hitting you up. You'll miss good opportunities that way.

 

[derby1]

once you have got romantically involved with a woman you slam your chasing car into reverse and presume 1 to 3 ration contact and it works first time everytime