What does "game" offer a woman?

[Urbanyst]

If you're red pill, you know attracting women comes down to your looks, MONEY and status.

Different women will have different criteria for acceptable LMS. But you have to pass her LMS test or you have no chance in hell of ever f*cking her. Plain and simple. Just remember her LMS standards will change with age. So you might pull her when she is 30 even if she rejected you when she was 23 lol.

LMS gets you in the door. What next? People claim "game" is what keeps a woman interested after you pass her LMS test. I say bullsh*t.

You know what keeps a woman interested after you pass her LMS test? Its how well you improve her lifestyle and how well she fits into your lifestyle compared to her other options.

Is your lifestyle appealing to her? Do you have similar values? Do you elevate her in some way?

That's what determines if a woman sticks around once you pass her LMS test.

What does "game" offer a woman? Nothing but VALIDATION. Using "game" showcases how little faith you have in your SMV. Using "game" shows who you are isn't enough. Using "game" means you are trying to punch above your weight.

Your SMV gets you in the door. What you offer in terms of lifestyle keeps you in the door. Everything else is blue pill horse sh*t.

 

[Murk]

If you're an actual suave guy, you know confidence trumps LMS. I know this for a fact. LMS theory/outlook is for beginners looking for guidance. If you are in the big boy leagues, you know confidence and charm is everything. You are a basic *****, which is fine, but don't you dare mislead guys here into your way of thinking, you do more harm than good and like many others, I highly doubt your credentials and recommend you be banned from making topics.

 

[marmel75]

There is a reason they always portray rich guys wives as banging the gardeners or the pool boys...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If you're red pill, you know attracting women comes down to your looks, MONEY and status.

Different women will have different criteria for acceptable LMS. But you have to pass her LMS test or you have no chance in hell of ever f*cking her. Plain and simple. Just remember her LMS standards will change with age. So you might pull her when she is 30 even if she rejected you when she was 23 lol.

LMS gets you in the door. What next? People claim "game" is what keeps a woman interested after you pass her LMS test. I say bullsh*t.

You know what keeps a woman interested after you pass her LMS test? Its how well you improve her lifestyle and how well she fits into your lifestyle compared to her other options.

Is your lifestyle appealing to her? Do you have similar values? Do you elevate her in some way?

That's what determines if a woman sticks around once you pass her LMS test.

What does "game" offer a woman? Nothing but VALIDATION. Using "game" showcases how little faith you have in your SMV. Using "game" shows who you are isn't enough. Using "game" means you are trying to punch above your weight.

Your SMV gets you in the door. What you offer in terms of lifestyle keeps you in the door. Everything else is blue pill horse sh*t.

What about qualifying women? Women that run game get to have different men help her out, choices for sex, others to fluff her head up, food guys, etc.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

There is a reason they always portray rich guys wives as banging the gardeners or the pool boys...

Leading with your wallet it a huge mistake.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yup. It's not just a porno, fantasy storyline. I can show you screenshots of texts describing those trophy wife types that was sent to me by a woman who knows a lot of them.

They stay with the man for the lifestyle. The cheat on him for emotional/sexual satisfaction. These guys got LMS, and that's about it.

Do you believe just cause someone got LMS they aren't sexually satisfying? I've further qualified that alot of these types of women more associate and are closer to those from her peer group. People who make her feel better in comparison. If you have LMS fvck a lady who also has LMS that desires someone like you. Provider game , sugar daddy game, trophy wife game is retarded.

 

[bigdave17]

Yup. It's not just a porno, fantasy storyline. I can show you screenshots of texts describing those trophy wife types that was sent to me by a woman who knows a lot of them.

They stay with the man for the lifestyle. The cheat on him for emotional/sexual satisfaction. These guys got LMS, and that's about it.

they don't have LMS, they usually just have MS


Very very few men have looks and money/status and most of them are alpha guys who dominate in dating

 

[Macaframalama]

If you're red pill, you know attracting women comes down to your looks, MONEY and status.

Different women will have different criteria for acceptable LMS. But you have to pass her LMS test or you have no chance in hell of ever f*cking her. Plain and simple. Just remember her LMS standards will change with age. So you might pull her when she is 30 even if she rejected you when she was 23 lol.

LMS gets you in the door. What next? People claim "game" is what keeps a woman interested after you pass her LMS test. I say bullsh*t.

You know what keeps a woman interested after you pass her LMS test? Its how well you improve her lifestyle and how well she fits into your lifestyle compared to her other options.

Is your lifestyle appealing to her? Do you have similar values? Do you elevate her in some way?

That's what determines if a woman sticks around once you pass her LMS test.

What does "game" offer a woman? Nothing but VALIDATION. Using "game" showcases how little faith you have in your SMV. Using "game" shows who you are isn't enough. Using "game" means you are trying to punch above your weight.

Your SMV gets you in the door. What you offer in terms of lifestyle keeps you in the door. Everything else is blue pill horse sh*t.

You are playing the game backwards, son. Jumping through a b!tches hoops, trick'ing and john'ing your way into her panties if you are lucky. Urb/herb.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

That might be the case sometimes, but I don't believe that in general, no.

More often, the problem is that these men know and get comfortable with the idea that the women are not going to leave them easily because of the money and lifestyle, so these guys generally stop trying (or never tried to begin with), even if they are capable, to be emotionally/sexually satisfying. It is at that point that these trophy girls realize they are living in a golden cage and begin to "wander". And make no mistake, these men are wandering too.

It's infidelity wrapped within the image of a perfect life that has to be maintained at all costs for the community.

I'll one up you for the point of this conversation. I think that if we lead with our money or lifestyle etc we put ourselves in a position to be used. And thus disqualified us from having them truly desire us in the first place. Guard your wallet.

 

[Spaz]

Yup. It's not just a porno, fantasy storyline. I can show you screenshots of texts describing those trophy wife types that was sent to me by a woman who knows a lot of them.

They stay with the man for the lifestyle. The cheat on him for emotional/sexual satisfaction. These guys got LMS, and that's about it.

I've had my fair share. Kinda hard to read these women, in some weird way the way they act is like an extension of their husband.

I only knew they were married after the s€x...

Some even lied they were divorce but in actual fact "happily" married.

 

[Urbanyst]

Leading with your wallet it a huge mistake.

Who said to lead with your wallet?

You need to have high SMV to a woman or she won't f*ck you. High SMV consists of your looks, MONEY and status compared to her other options.

 

[Urbanyst]

If you're an actual suave guy, you know confidence trumps LMS. I know this for a fact. LMS theory/outlook is for beginners looking for guidance. If you are in the big boy leagues, you know confidence and charm is everything. You are a basic *****, which is fine, but don't you dare mislead guys here into your way of thinking, you do more harm than good and like many others, I highly doubt your credentials and recommend you be banned from making topics.

Blue pill sh*t.

 

[Urbanyst]

These guys got LMS, and that's about it.

What else is there to have? "Game"?

Yeah.. then all the clowns on this site with "game" would have loyal wives already don't ya think?

LOL.

Lack of compatibility ruins LTR's. Not lack of "game".

 

[logicallefty]

If you're an actual suave guy, you know confidence trumps LMS. I know this for a fact. LMS theory/outlook is for beginners looking for guidance. If you are in the big boy leagues, you know confidence and charm is everything. You are a basic *****, which is fine, but don't you dare mislead guys here into your way of thinking, you do more harm than good and like many others, I highly doubt your credentials and recommend you be banned from making topics.

I recommend that you cool it on personally attacking other members or you will be the one banned, not him. This post brings no value to the forum or this thread. This is your warning.

 

[Urbanyst]

Well, that was my initial point with Urbanyst to begin with. It's not that he is wrong at all, it's just that he refuses to see beyond it.

What he does is fine if all you want to do is get your d1ck wet. Obviously that is his primary goal. And it works, for him. There is no need for him to do anything beyond that because he is not looking for much more than ONS, FWB, and such.

But here's the danger in what he is preaching to struggling newbies, and even to some other member who have been here for a while: A lot of people think if the ONS is all you want, there is no need to guard your wallet. There is no need to avoid being used. It's a one night thing. It doesn't matter.

Except it does.

I know a few girls, very attractive, HOT, who are pretty much stuck in and are hating the rat race..... and they would love nothing more than to get knocked up by a rich guy. One of these women I know now has 3 kids with different men because that was her actual approach to life. Get preggo by a guy with money and status and reap the rewards. And she's still doing it. All of these men she snared rolled a lot like Urbanyst does.

Men who think guarding your wallet is unnecessary; men who lead with LMS because all they want is an endless string of one night stands, rather than LTRs and such, usually end up being the biggest suckers of them all.

Great post and sound points.

I'm happy we are finally getting beyond the flaming and now we can have a real conversation.

The reason I don't look past LMS much is because there is really nothing beyond it outside of COMPATIBILITY. When you are compatible with a woman and you also pass her LMS test, you will have a great LTR for as long as you remain on the same page. "Game" is not going to keep a woman by your side lol. Sorry to tell ya.

Leading with LMS doesn't mean spending MONEY on women or even talking about it. It just means you have to pass every woman's LMS standard or you have no chance in hell with her. Once the door is open, you have to be compatible with her to keep her interested.

That's all dating boils down to. Everything else is horse sh*t and I laugh at the clowns "guarding their wallets" while spending MONEY on PUA voodoo books lol.

 

[sosousage]

What else is there to have? "Game"?

Yeah.. then all the clowns on this site with "game" would have loyal wives already don't ya think?

LOL.

Lack of compatibility ruins LTR's. Not lack of "game".

What if i only have look if ever?

 

[ohrein]

To preface, when I say game, I don't mean all the little "tricks" PUA gurus teach like negging or waiting to text. I'm talking about a proper internalized understanding of masculine/feminine dynamics. An understanding that is almost automatic.

Game offers what looks, money and status can't. Deep emotional experiences. LMS will attract a woman to you but you will never have a deep and lasting impact on a woman if that's all you have to offer. At the end of the day, women (and men) do want actual social and emotional connections with other people. Women are driven by evolutionary biological drives (as are men), but that is not the complete story. Red pill explains the biological behaviors and desires that men and women have through evolutionary psychology and game teaches you how to be a man that will leave a lasting impact on the people you interact with through strong values and masculinity.

Women will talk about the hot, rich guy they ****ed a couple of times, but they'll talk about the guy with game for the rest of their lives.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Well, that was my initial point with Urbanyst to begin with. It's not that he is wrong at all, it's just that he refuses to see beyond it.

What he does is fine if all you want to do is get your d1ck wet. Obviously that is his primary goal. And it works, for him. There is no need for him to do anything beyond that because he is not looking for much more than ONS, FWB, and such.

But here's the danger in what he is preaching to struggling newbies, and even to some other member who have been here for a while: A lot of people think if the ONS is all you want, there is no need to guard your wallet. There is no need to avoid being used. It's a one night thing. It doesn't matter.

Except it does.

I know a few girls, very attractive, HOT, who are pretty much stuck in and are hating the rat race..... and they would love nothing more than to get knocked up by a rich guy. One of these women I know now has 3 kids with different men because that was her actual approach to life. Get preggo by a guy with money and status and reap the rewards. And she's still doing it. All of these men she snared rolled a lot like Urbanyst does.

Men who think guarding your wallet is unnecessary; men who lead with LMS because all they want is an endless string of one night stands, rather than LTRs and such, usually end up being the biggest suckers of them all.

Your deep. The other part is even if you do get your **** wet their desire and sex will be higher if they want you and not your stuff.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What else is there to have? "Game"?

Yeah.. then all the clowns on this site with "game" would have loyal wives already don't ya think?

LOL.

Lack of compatibility ruins LTR's. Not lack of "game".

Who said to lead with your wallet?

You need to have high SMV to a woman or she won't f*ck you. High SMV consists of your looks, MONEY and status compared to her other options.

Agree. But perhaps "game" is a set of tools that allows us to navigate In the world of status. "Game" also allows one to manipulate and cause emotions in a structured manner.

 

[logicallefty]

Agree. But perhaps "game" is a set of tools that allows us to navigate In the world of status.

That's exactly what game is. It's a set of tools. Women have their vag as their tool and that's a pretty damn powerful tool. We have to have something. Especially those of us who aren't a 10 in looks, a 10 in money, and a 10 in status. Once these are all maxed out and we've done all we can do, what else do we have to work with besides game?