I'm going to start thinking myself as the ultimate prize in dating

[bigdave17]

more and more I'm talking to women and meeting women, the more and more I see their flaws.

in reality, the amount of women or men out there who are as strong as I am in all areas are very very small. We're talking

- looks (face/body/fashion)
- money (not only the fact that I make 130K+ but that I live below my means and am excellent with managing finances while living in a cheap area. I'm in probably top 0.01% of men when you consider both these things)
- I can hold a good conversation and come across as intelligent and well educated on almost any subject matter
- I am very loyal and honest. I make plans to meet someone, I will try very very very hard to never cancel no matter what it comes up
- I am awesome towards my friends and family. I do anything and everything I can to help them out
- I have a 7 inch penis and phenomenal stamina in bed. I love performing oral sex on women and I won't start having sex until they have a violent thrashing orgasm first
- I have a fantastic lifestyle - I get almost 20 vacation days at work now so I go and do all sorts of fun stuff
- I'm healthy and strong as a bull
- I have that Armenian olive complexion, which means I will look 40 at 60. My dad looked 28 when he was 40
- I love kids and pets and I believe I will be a fantastic dad
- I have good emotional intelligence, am very easy to get along with

I'm trying to find the female version of all this and it's really goddamn difficult.

Many many people have told me over the years that I was pretty damn close to perfect and I didn't believe it because I was so harsh on myself. I didn't believe that I deserved to have a quality girlfriend. I had a horrible childhood in terms of dating so I developed all these negative and self destroying beliefs towards dating. I convinced myself that women were impossible to deal with and that they have impossible standards. I'm seeing now it's all nonsense. From now on, I'm going to tell myself everyday that even the hottest girl in the world would be very lucky to be with me and I need to make myself believe it 1000000%

In other good news, I'm getting quite good at approaching women and generating instant chemistry. The problem is nobody fits my standards. I really need to approach some of the mid to late 20s beauties at my gym. I also need to do online dating where I can be extremely selective

 

[Von]

This Thread deserve a place in the DJ Bible at Comedy Central

 

[The Duke]

LilDave- that should be your dating profile. While you're at it, print up a shirt with all that mumbo jumbo and wear it to the bars.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

in reality, the amount of women or men out there who are as strong as I am in all areas are very very small.

Well excellent. We can expect you to have a 10/10 wife within 3 months, then. 6 months tops.

You can tell us all what we're doing wrong!

I have a 7 inch penis and phenomenal stamina in bed

I...er...slightly too much information, dude.

--

For the record, if you have to tell people your literal d*ck size and how wonderful you are, you may as well just tell us all you're insecure. I remember you said you have a very macho friend group, I reckon that's what's done it to you.

 

[bigdave17]

Talk more about this. Describe the girl, the approach and how it went.

started talking to bartender who works at this small bar I go to...she loved me...she is attractive but still not my type. Pothead, not much into working out


This cute blonde last night seemed to like me quite a bit but she was an insecure trainwreck. She was a friend of a friend

 

[bigdave17]

Well excellent. We can expect you to have a 10/10 wife within 3 months, then. 6 months tops.

You can tell us all what we're doing wrong!

I don't really want a 10/10


a nice cute 7.5/10 who is genuinely an awesome person and looks good without makeup would be the best

 

[guru1000]

[I really want] a nice cute 7.5/10

What's the point?

Go Big or Go Home you big baby.

 

[JohnChops]

What's the point?

Go Big or Go Home you big baby.

10 or bust... in ya hand.

 

[bigdave17]

What's the point?

Go Big or Go Home you big baby.

I guess i don't feel comfortable with a 10 because I'm not a 10 myself. I feel like she would be settling

I'm a good solid 7.5 who will age awesome. I want the same in a woman

 

[Von]

My last awesome post.

It's a great advice.... The only way you will know a girl will meet your standards/check list is to date HER.

Your current 10 might become a 6. Your current boring 6 might become a fun topmodel 10HB.
People changes.

Beside it's not a 15minutes bar talk that you will know everything about her.

Only way to know is to pickup the numbers, get the dates, the ONS, the LTR.

You realize girls who like you, will do stuff to please you.

So your 7.5 girl and your 7.5 HB might become a team to a 10HB level.

Talking to them and having interactions with them is the only way.

So when you are on the dating guess... screw the standards just see : 1) she cute? 2) she a non-smoker 3) she's fun to listen to (good voice)

Discover the rest, than make her better, like you will be better

Thanks BigDave for making me a thread that motivated me to make an awesome post that will lead me to be part of the DJ Bible.

Peace out, I am going to Comedy Central publish the DJ Bible

 

[bigdave17]

My last awesome post.

It's a great advice.... The only way you will know a girl will meet your standards/check list is to date HER.

Your current 10 might become a 6. Your current boring 6 might become a fun topmodel 10HB.
People changes.

Beside it's not a 15minutes bar talk that you will know everything about her.

Only way to know is to pickup the numbers, get the dates, the ONS, the LTR.

You realize girls who like you, will do stuff to please you.

So your 7.5 girl and your 7.5 HB might become a team to a 10HB level.

Talking to them and having interactions with them is the only way.

So when you are on the dating guess... screw the standards just see : 1) she cute? 2) she a non-smoker 3) she's fun to listen to (good voice)

Discover the rest, than make her better, like you will be better

Thanks BigDave for making me a thread that motivated me to make an awesome post that will lead me to be part of the DJ Bible.

Peace out, I am going to Comedy Central publish the DJ Bible

bro the problem is I'm just not meeting anybody anywhere close to what I want

I want everything

- looks (face and body)
- intelligent
- awesome character
- decent career/decent with finance
- the right age, no kids
- preferably ethnic (white women age horribly)

If I met someone close to that, I would give it a chance

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

bro the problem is I'm just not meeting anybody anywhere close to what I want

I want everything

- looks (face and body)
- intelligent
- awesome character
- decent career/decent with finance
- the right age, no kids
- preferably ethnic (white women age horribly)

If I met someone close to that, I would give it a chance

You sound like a Bernie supporter who actually believes he should walk into a supermarket with two bucks in his pocket and be able to buy whatever he wants.

It's guys like you that make idiotic Marxist and socialist ideas actually sound feasible to the unwashed masses.

"Vote for me and I promise you will have everything you want! Simply because you want it is proof that you deserve it and should have it! In fact, if you want something and you don't have it, that means somebody out there is cheating you out of what is rightfully yours!"

 

[bigdave17]

You sound like a Bernie supporter who actually believes he should walk into a supermarket with two bucks in his pocket and be able to buy whatever he wants.

It's guys like you that make idiotic Marxist and socialist ideas actually sound feasible to the unwashed masses.

bull****

I've busted my ass in terms of self improvement. I'm not a fat guy expecting a hottie. I've worked very very hard at making myself the best possible package all around. Now i just want a woman who is somewhat close to female version of me

 

[ohrein]

I'm not a psychologist so I want to make it clear I'm just throwing this out there as an idea, hopefully to be helpful in case Dave here thinks he may need some help. Does the below list remind anyone of Dave or am I way off base?

inability to listen to others
fantasising about power, beauty and success
exaggerating achievements and abilities
superiority, specifically towards people perceived as ‘lower’ in status
lack of awareness regarding others
social withdrawal
inflated sense of entitlement
obsession with class and status
strong desire for control over relationships
envy for those perceived as being of a higher status
inability to admit wrongdoing
distant, practical manner in regards to personal relationships
great pride in the accomplishments of children or family
expecting constant praise and recognition for achievements
unrealistic goal setting
difficulty maintaining healthy relationships
feeling hurt and rejected easily

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/symptoms-of-npd

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

bull****

I've busted my ass in terms of self improvement. I'm not a fat guy expecting a hottie. I've worked very very hard at making myself the best possible package all around. Now i just want a woman who is somewhat close to female version of me

Dave, instead of telling everyone "bulls***" over and over while being the biggest bulls****er on the forums yourself, why don't you just go and get the girl you're looking for?

If you're that confident and everything, you don't need any help. I think the fact you keep starting threads here that are all exactly the same shows that you're not the perfect package you seem to think you are.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I've busted my ass in terms of self improvement. I'm not a fat guy expecting a hottie. I've worked very very hard at making myself the best possible package all around. Now i just want a woman who is somewhat close to female version of me

This same argument shows up over and over again from guys just like you. And it's based on the same misunderstanding which is common in economics. I'll explain it metaphorically.

Let's say you build stuff in your garage. You've spent countless hours studying your craft. You pour your heart and soul into your objects. You don't watch TV, you only want to do what you believe will increase the quality of your product.

Then the day comes and you go to your local swap meet and try to sell it. You have put lots of effort into your stuff, so you expect a high price. Let's say, for the sake of argument, you figure your stuff should fetch several hundred dollars per unit. After all, you've put in countless hours, countless learning, and you believe, according to your own subjective value system, that your stuff is worth several hundred dollars each.

Yet when you set up your table at the swap meet, nobody pays your asking price. You get a few offers for twenty bucks, but that's it.

You don't understand, there some stuff that looks quickly thrown together. Cheap. Yet people are paying hundreds of dollars for this cheap stuff.

You conclude it must be these fools in this particular city. You set out to tour the world, looking for the right swap meet where people will pay what you KNOW your stuff is worth.

Only problem is you don't understand a basic element of economics.

Something is only worth what people are willing to pay.

And the ONLY WAY to measure the value of your stuff, your TRUE MARKET value is to place it on the market and see what people are willing to pay.

IF ALL YOU ARE GETTING IS ATTENTION FROM LOW QUALITY WOMEN, THAT IS YOUR SEXUAL MARKET VALUE.

Nobody can measure their own sexual market value.

Your sexual market value is ONLY capable of being determined by what you are offered on the sexual market.

The path to freedom:

Accept that the responses you get from the social sexual market is the ONLY TRUE MEASURE of your sexual/relationship/romantic worth.

And use ONLY that as a measuring device when you continue to improve your self.

 

[derby1]

This cute blonde last night seemed to like me quite a bit but she was an insecure trainwreck

this is the one ^^^^^ sounds a perfect match, take her down your moms basement where you type all this trash from,

 

[ohrein]

This same argument shows up over and over again from guys just like you. And it's based on the same misunderstanding which is common in economics. I'll explain it metaphorically.

Let's say you build stuff in your garage. You've spent countless hours studying your craft. You pour your heart and soul into your objects. You don't watch TV, you only want to do what you believe will increase the quality of your product.

Then the day comes and you go to your local swap meet and try to sell it. You have put lots of effort into your stuff, so you expect a high price. Let's say, for the sake of argument, you figure your stuff should fetch several hundred dollars per unit. After all, you've put in countless hours, countless learning, and you believe, according to your own subjective value system, that your stuff is worth several hundred dollars each.

Yet when you set up your table at the swap meet, nobody pays your asking price. You get a few offers for twenty bucks, but that's it.

You don't understand, there some stuff that looks quickly thrown together. Cheap. Yet people are paying hundreds of dollars for this cheap stuff.

You conclude it must be these fools in this particular city. You set out to tour the world, looking for the right swap meet where people will pay what you KNOW your stuff is worth.

Only problem is you don't understand a basic element of economics.

Something is only worth what people are willing to pay.

And the ONLY WAY to measure the value of your stuff, your TRUE MARKET value is to place it on the market and see what people are willing to pay.

IF ALL YOU ARE GETTING IS ATTENTION FROM LOW QUALITY WOMEN, THAT IS YOUR SEXUAL MARKET VALUE.

Nobody can measure their own sexual market value.

Your sexual market value is ONLY capable of being determined by what you are offered on the sexual market.

The path to freedom:

Accept that the responses you get from the social sexual market is the ONLY TRUE MEASURE of your sexual/relationship/romantic worth.

And use ONLY that as a measuring device when you continue to improve your self.

Wow, this is actually a really insightful post! Even I hadn't thought of it from that angle. In a way it goes back to Pandora's post on sales. Know your market and who you're selling to! Make sure you're valuable in that market. Again, this goes back to money attracts gold diggers, looks attracts branch swingers, alpha attracts daddy issues, etc. It's no good being a great product if you're in the wrong market or not selling yourself well. Interesting stuff.

 

[bigdave17]

Only problem is you don't understand a basic element of economics.

Something is only worth what people are willing to pay..

absolutely true, what you said here is common sense

the problem is I've killed myself in the past because of 3 reasons

1)not approaching the women I really want because of defeatist attitude (which is no more now, I'm going to destroy that)
2)approaching the women I wanted but coming across as desperate (which is also no more now, I've already destroyed that)
3)approaching the women I wanted but not doing it with complete self trust

If I approached the women I wanted and did it with a lot of confidence and still had horrible results, you would have a point but that won't happen. I've just started to approach women recently with some confidence and my results are already very strong. Both the cute 22 year old bartender and the friend of a friend liked me quite a bit.

I have to face reality - what I want is a very very small percentage of women - somebody who is very strong in all 5 or 6 main areas is difficult to find. Furthermore, they're going to have astronomical standards because they get hit on so much. I have to be willing to approach the women I want with some level of persistence and not care if I get rejected.

Bottom line: I haven't gotten the results I deserve because of lack of effort and a poor attitude. I've fixed the attitude somewhat but the effort thing is where I really need to focus

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

absolutely true, what you said here is common sense

the problem is I've killed myself in the past because of 3 reasons

1)not approaching the women I really want because of defeatist attitude (which is no more now, I'm going to destroy that)
2)approaching the women I wanted but coming across as desperate (which is also no more now, I've already destroyed that)
3)approaching the women I wanted but not doing it with complete self trust

If I approached the women I wanted and did it with a lot of confidence and still had horrible results, you would have a point but that won't happen. I've just started to approach women recently with some confidence and my results are already very strong. Both the cute 22 year old bartender and the friend of a friend liked me quite a bit.

I have to face reality - what I want is a very very small percentage of women - somebody who is very strong in all 5 or 6 main areas is difficult to find. Furthermore, they're going to have astronomical standards because they get hit on so much. I have to be willing to approach the women I want with some level of persistence and not care if I get rejected.

Bottom line: I haven't gotten the results I deserve because of lack of effort and a poor attitude. I've fixed the attitude somewhat but the effort thing is where I really need to focus

Mate, this sounds almost like something of a moment of clarity/realisation. I wasn't expecting it and I'm pleased to see it.

The effort is one thing, the only thing you have left now is to learn to compromise sometimes. I think that's going to be the hardest thing for you.

I think next time a 22 year old cute bartender who smokes pot hits on you, you should just f***ing go for it. Ditch thinking about yourself and just give someone imperfect a try. You might be very pleasantly surprised and realise in a few years that actually what you thought you wanted wasn't what you wanted.

When you ditch the preconceptions you'll look back and think "What the f*** was I thinking?"