I've seen a lot of advice that basically amounts to ignore her or walk away.

[MisterMike]

I feel like this basically useless advice, not inaccurate, but pretty much lacking in function. I mean let's say someone ignores this advice, the outcome is basically the same. So if the situation always comes down to ignore, walk away, don't validate etc then what good is this forum and what good are you guys? I'm not saying that to insult, I'm saying that to get you guys thinking. If Timmy can't score with his life-long crush then as fellow men then isn't it our job to help him? I've seen a lot of experts and leaders that have made it to the top by stepping over others, for my part, I feel like if we don't all get to the mountaintop then I and everyone else has failed.

 

[skinnyguy]

The other advice involves pedestalization or orbiting. If you want to go that route, go ahead

 

[MisterMike]

I'm not going any route, I'm just saying it's odd for one solution to fit every problem, and I think it's lazy to I just say the same thing for every problem. It's like looking for a doctor and everyone saying 'there's nothing we can do for you' there's no glory in it, you're not a master, and you'll be forgotten in time because someone stepped up and innovated. Even if you disagree with my assessment then surely you can see the bigger picture of what I am trying to say.

 

[marmel75]

I feel like this basically useless advice, not inaccurate, but pretty much lacking in function. I mean let's say someone ignores this advice, the outcome is basically the same. So if the situation always comes down to ignore, walk away, don't validate etc then what good is this forum and what good are you guys? I'm not saying that to insult, I'm saying that to get you guys thinking. If Timmy can't score with his life-long crush then as fellow men then isn't it our job to help him? I've seen a lot of experts and leaders that have made it to the top by stepping over others, for my part, I feel like if we don't all get to the mountaintop then I and everyone else has failed.

People Don't seem to get it. If you are dating one woman, great. Continue dating her and keep dating others. If you are dating 2 women. Great. Continue dating them and keep dating others.

If you dating NO women but keep trying to force an uninterested woman to become interested instead of going out and finding new women who ARE interested, you are an idiot. Plain and simple.

You can't always help idiots. Sometimes they are just going to continue to be idiots no matter what advice they get.

The reason advice is given to walk away is because the woman has shown she isnt interested and because your focus should be spent on finding and dating women who are interested.

It would be like you are trying to go hunting deer and you knowingly go to a place where there are no deer. How successful can you be? Not very.

But that's the whole problem. Most guys are lazy and they would rather continue trying with a woman or women they have a number from, no matter how uninterested, instead of trying to find interested women. Because this takes work and effort. And most guys want to get the results but without any effort. Unfortunately women and life in general doesnt work this way. You'll get out what you put in.

 

[MisterMike]

Marmel, that is absolutely correct, that's not what I am talking about though. In general, finding someone else probably the quickest and easiest solution, I'm just saying it isn't and shouldn't be a one size fits all answer because there's no room for growth, learning or understanding.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm not going any route, I'm just saying it's odd for one solution to fit every problem, and I think it's lazy to I just say the same thing for every problem. It's like looking for a doctor and everyone saying 'there's nothing we can do for you' there's no glory in it, you're not a master, and you'll be forgotten in time because someone stepped up and innovated. Even if you disagree with my assessment then surely you can see the bigger picture of what I am trying to say.

The stepping up is ignoring her, and being at the cusp of your potential with other females who are into you. If you have a shot with her she will be drawn into it. You cannot oneitis her, it doesn't make any sense. Any one of these females is someones daughter or sister with some makeup and clothes on, no big deal.

Dealing with females is not overly complicated at all.

 

[marmel75]

Marmel, that is absolutely correct, that's not what I am talking about though. In general, finding someone else probably the quickest and easiest solution, I'm just saying it isn't and shouldn't be a one size fits all answer because there's no room for growth, learning or understanding.

And I'll counter by saying until you get to a point where you dated enough women, you wont get understanding. Understanding and learning doesnt come from pondering what to do over a woman. It comes from experience and going on lots of dates and figuring out what works and what doesn't in various situations and with various types of women. But the common thread here is taking action.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If you stick around you will do more damage to your psyche

Guaranteed. I'm the poster boy of this. Find some b1tches that want to work for YOU. Not the other way around. Player supreme was adamant about not making a "hot" girl your only choice. The reason being you already pedastalled her.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

And I'll counter by saying until you get to a point where you dated enough women, you wont get understanding. Understanding and learning doesnt come from pondering what to do over a woman. It comes from experience and going on lots of dates and figuring out what works and what doesn't in various situations and with various types of women. But the common thread here is taking action.

I was fighting dating a bunch of em but it seems like the way to go. You'll lose one itis. You'll learn many of them are similar. You'll learn that certain situations don't work. You'll learn what works.

 

[Macaframalama]

I feel like this basically useless advice, not inaccurate, but pretty much lacking in function. I mean let's say someone ignores this advice, the outcome is basically the same.

No, in one scenario you walk away like an adult. In the other scenario, you get slapped with a VPO and are forced to walk away.

So if the situation always comes down to ignore, walk away, don't validate etc then what good is this forum and what good are you guys?

Respectfully, to keep guys like you from being slapped with VPO's.

 

[MisterMike]

No, in one scenario you walk away like an adult. In the other scenario, you get slapped with a VPO and are forced to walk away.

Respectfully, to keep guys like you from being slapped with VPO's.

Those aren't the scenario's I'm talking about. I'm talking about old friends and a few other abnormal situations I've seen on the forums. Also, you don't know me, so please don't make too many assumptions.

 

[TBG]

Pretty much been covered above, but yeah what it comes down to me is learning/knowing when to walk away when someone isn't interested. It's a complete waste of time, money and energy and something I've sadly fell victim to in the past.

I'm not saying completely ignore someone or burn down bridges but don't invest into something than you get less out off.

 

[derby1]

Op having just read your post mortem thread, you have a lot to learn,

Asking a woman if you can make advances on her etc

Its clear this unfriending and blocking has sent your hamster wheel into a spin, and you are making covert posts about it....

You do not understand the power of indifference and walking away

When you stop caring ...results come

 

[Spaz]

So u hv a crush and feel dejected by not having a solution to get ur crush. Obviously u blame everyone.

Now this is interesting. I shall endeavour to make it simple so that even a child can understand. Mind you, it's a bit long winded.

Women markets and sells love and relationships with the ultimate aim of getting married.

As such think of women like a shop that's selling just 1 singular product.

Now the shop opens it doors and allow SOME VIP (it's her perogative on who qualifies) customers to view, touch, taste it's product in the hopes that one of them buys it. But the shop owner is selective, she wants ONLY the very best of her VIP customers to buy it.

Now she cant allow every Tom, **** and Harry to even step a foot inside her shop, it tarnishes her product. Of course she allows everyone to gawk and admire at the beauty of her shop - from the outside, the more the better. It's proof that she has the best product amongst all the other shops.

That's the shop owner marketing strategy, tried and tested from her mother and all the other woman who came before her.

If u aren't being treated like a VIP customer for a particular crush u r having then logically you should walk away.

The solution;

Visit another shop until u find one that gives you the VIP treatment. And then after testing, tasting and humping the product to ur satisfaction you get to decide if it's according to your high standards.
Only then you shall consider purchasing it or dismissing it.

How else can anyone advice you otherwise ?

 

[sosousage]

I feel like this basically useless advice, not inaccurate, but pretty much lacking in function. I mean let's say someone ignores this advice, the outcome is basically the same. So if the situation always comes down to ignore, walk away, don't validate etc then what good is this forum and what good are you guys? I'm not saying that to insult, I'm saying that to get you guys thinking. If Timmy can't score with his life-long crush then as fellow men then isn't it our job to help him? I've seen a lot of experts and leaders that have made it to the top by stepping over others, for my part, I feel like if we don't all get to the mountaintop then I and everyone else has failed.

timmy wont score his crush because she sees him as a loser. timmy shall go gym, get ripped, get clothes, get game, and meet NEW chicks, chicks who dont know, that, he was a loser, before

 

[MisterMike]

Op having just read your post mortem thread, you have a lot to learn,

Asking a woman if you can make advances on her etc

Its clear this unfriending and blocking has sent your hamster wheel into a spin, and you are making covert posts about it....

You do not understand the power of indifference and walking away

When you stop caring ...results come

That's called the backwards law, and no I'm not in a spin. I wasn't asking to make advances, I was asking permission to enter her room as a guest. That does raise a good question of how indifferent?

Spaz- I don't blame anyone, I take responsibility for the situation and move on.

I guess what I'm struggling to comprehend is that we as a collective really have no option but find someone else every time there's an issue.

 

[MisterMike]

timmy wont score his crush because she sees him as a loser. timmy shall go gym, get ripped, get clothes, get game, and meet NEW chicks, chicks who dont know, that, he was a loser, before

The first two really make a huge difference from what I've been noticing.

 

[RangerMIke]

First there really is nothing you can 'do' to get a chick to like you, she does or she does not. If she isn't making things easy... she does not like you. Hanging around 'trying' to get something to happen does one of two things. (1) You get a girl that is settling for you; who really doesn't like you and who will blame YOU because YOU don't get her motor running. That will be a miserable relationship. (2) You stand on the sideline watching "your girl' fvck other dudes, while you let chicks, that you DO have a chance with pass you by.

Second, you have to move on... the sooner the better. Why hang around? You had you turn on the ride, now it's another dudes turn, go find another ride. Why wait in line for a ride that will not open again.

 

[soulforge]

Those aren't the scenario's I'm talking about. I'm talking about old friends and a few other abnormal situations I've seen on the forums. Also, you don't know me, so please don't make too many assumptions.

You should have been a little more clearer about what type of situation or incident you meant then..

The advice that is generally given out on here, is for guys who are mostly dealing with a woman with NO interest in him..

Or has lost interest in him..

Either way walking away is pretty much the only option... Chasing a girl like a desperate thirsty dog, is NOT going to increase her interest in you!

Her puzzy does not tingle, when she sees how little options you have, and how desperate you are for a little effection from her!

 

[derby1]

Op your words in that post " I never went near her without asking if it was alright"

you dont value yourself enough a high value male wouldnt ask this, she sees you as weak, your actions are creepy even though you dont realise this

your option now is to walk away with your head held high and practice on new women

OR you can try and communicate with these people and see where this gets you, which theyll see you as even weaker

the strongest military position is to walk away and mean it