Going to her dorm Saturday

[Macaframalama]

Should I cancel on her?

Fvck NO! Would you rather be whacking it? Be realistic about your options and your success rate lately. Don't pump and dump, neither. Turn the fvcking tables and take control of the situation and get her chasing after you lay it down like a boss. Pursue other women at the same time.

 

[Macaframalama]

Translation= take the crumbs from a prior rejection....= lower value in what? HIMSELF.

OP isn't even eating right now. He isn't even at the table.

 

[marmel75]

OP isn't even eating right now. He isn't even at the table.

Context. Context...somebody finally gets it.

 

[lizardking82]

I will take the bigger picture over some situation to "survive" anyday. This is ***** we're talking about, he doesn't need ***** to survive.

 

[guru1000]

IS it self-respect or ego?

 

[marmel75]

IS it self-respect or ego?

This exactly.

Too many people want to act like because the woman wasnt in the bathroom sucking your d!ck 5 minutes after meeting you you shouldn't bother with her...

Situations are far more fluid most times but nobody wants to recognize that.

Is OP constantly texting and begging her to go out and keeps getting tured down? No.

Is OP asking her out and she agrees then constantly flakes on him? No.

Is OP going out with her and then she openly flirts with other guys in front of him? No.

OP asked her out she didn't go, probably because he wasnt #1 on her list or she was dating someone she liked more at the time. It happens.

So he was like cool and kept it moving...6 months later she contacts him because she was probably interested at the time and the advice is to respect yourself and say no? For what reason? An unknown made up one? WTF is that? How does that benefit him in anyway? Where does "self-respect" come into play here?

Seems to me it's an ego that cant deal with them not being her #1 choice. A way to lose a lot of oportunities imho

Now, could it turn into a situation where he has to walk away due to self respect? Absolutely. But it also could turn into a situation where he bangs her brains out routinely. No way of knowing until he meets up with her.

OP, how confident are you this is not a "dorm" party?

 

[wifehunter]

 

[marmel75]

Yes, because most chicks looking for orbiters chase around guys and invite them to their dorm rooms with alcohol involved...

 

[lizardking82]

I mean...a chick invites him to her dorm where alcohol is involved...sounds like a high quality girl and that likes him a lot LOL

 

[marmel75]

I mean...a chick invites him to her dorm where alcohol is involved...sounds like a high quality girl and that likes him a lot LOL

Sounds like a college chick who is horny...oh..I forgot you practiced the chivalric code in college and wouldn't know about those "mundane" things...

 

[lizardking82]

Sounds like a college chick who is horny...oh..I forgot you practiced the chivalric code in college and wouldn't know about those "mundane" things...

Let him to go that college chick who is "horny" LOL and let him come back here 6 months after crying about how he gut hurt cause she got back with her boyfriend or because she went cold on him. Man, oh man, I will enjoy it.

I talk about the bigger picture to this guy, you talk about "go get your **** wet, son". I didn't tell him "don't bang her". I told him "Make her come over at your place". If she's so horny, she will go over at his place, no big deal and he will feel more in his territory, in his zone. That's all and I am done with it here since you either get my point and act like you don't or you really don't and that's quite dissapointing.

 

[doctor1996]

This exactly.

Too many people want to act like because the woman wasnt in the bathroom sucking your d!ck 5 minutes after meeting you you shouldn't bother with her...

Situations are far more fluid most times but nobody wants to recognize that.

Is OP constantly texting and begging her to go out and keeps getting tured down? No.

Is OP asking her out and she agrees then constantly flakes on him? No.

Is OP going out with her and then she openly flirts with other guys in front of him? No.

OP asked her out she didn't go, probably because he wasnt #1 on her list or she was dating someone she liked more at the time. It happens.

So he was like cool and kept it moving...6 months later she contacts him because she was probably interested at the time and the advice is to respect yourself and say no? For what reason? An unknown made up one? WTF is that? How does that benefit him in anyway? Where does "self-respect" come into play here?

Seems to me it's an ego that cant deal with them not being her #1 choice. A way to lose a lot of oportunities imho

Now, could it turn into a situation where he has to walk away due to self respect? Absolutely. But it also could turn into a situation where he bangs her brains out routinely. No way of knowing until he meets up with her.

OP, how confident are you this is not a "dorm" party?

Just us. Her other roommates have different rooms. It's like a room with 3 additional rooms with a lounge.

 

[marmel75]

Just us. Her other roommates have different rooms. It's like a room with 3 additional rooms with a lounge.

Then go and escalate like a man would and see what happens.

 

[marmel75]

Let him to go that college chick who is "horny" LOL and let him come back here 6 months after crying about how he gut hurt cause she got back with her boyfriend or because she went cold on him. Man, oh man, I will enjoy it.

I talk about the bigger picture to this guy, you talk about "go get your **** wet, son". I didn't tell him "don't bang her". I told him "Make her come over at your place". If she's so horny, she will go over at his place, no big deal and he will feel more in his territory, in his zone. That's all and I am done with it here since you either get my point and act like you don't or you really don't and that's quite dissapointing.

The only big picture you are talking about is the opposite picture of the dude who sits around after getting a chicks number and envisions all the great things that will happen with her before he even meets up with her.

Except you are doing it in reverse...you are envisioning all the reasons why it wont work and is going to blow up in the OPs face.

I dont operate like that. You've already convinced yourself of how a situation is going to play out in your mind before anything even happens. What kind of nonsense is that? In your case even if it DID happen like that it would more likely just be a self fulfilling prophecy than anything else.

Assume nothing.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Instead of playing hard to get by cancelling, he could go, and then play hard to get. Invite the roommates to drink with you and socialize with them, too. Ask her to invite more friends over. I think it would be hilarious. Plus, you'd still probably end up fvcking her. And if you didn't, then you just met a bunch of her friends. A good salesman doesn't make every sale, but at a minimum he will leave with a handful of referrals.

 

[Macaframalama]

Yes hes not. He got blown off. And now shes all over him.
Read my first response. If he does anything she goes to him.
If anything whats being coached here is neediness.
From guys who cant tell a chic No. Especially one that blew him off prior to.
Big picture fellas.

I have no problem telling a chic no. See my post Zero Tolerance from a week ago. There's a huge difference though. I've got it like that, he doesn't at the moment. OP stated, that she is all over him. Who's doing the chasing here? There's really no big picture to see, because after he wipes his d!ck off, she probably won't be in it. He's already stated he's contemplating a pump and dump.

No wonder the idea of comming from abundance or strength in a situation is very rare in here.

OP doesn't have abundance. Why choose to live in delusion about this?

Boys to Men

Don't understand quite what you are trying to say here.

 

[marmel75]

I have no problem telling a chic no. See my post Zero Tolerance from a week ago. There's a huge difference though. I've got it like that, he doesn't at the moment. OP stated, that she is all over him. Who's doing the chasing here? There's really no big picture to see, because after he wipes his d!ck off, she probably won't be in it. He's already stated he's contemplating a pump and dump.

OP doesn't have abundance. Why choose to live in delusion about this?

Don't understand quite what you are trying to say here.

Just another example of how people attempt to treat every situation exactly the same with no use of context. Situations are fluid there are no hard and fast rules only guidelines that make more or less sense in any given context.

Instead of having guidelines and using judgement based on context they attempt to base their judgement in what the rules say. They arent designed to be used like that. Never have been. These rules are mostly designed to help guys who are still taking baby steps along and tend to be the polar opposite of what they would do in a given situation from where they are coming from.

Once you get far enough a long, you see these rules for what they are...hindrances to your ability to get laid many times instead of helps. You find yourself in situations you would have never been in previously and in which those "rules" don't work well in and often times doing the OPPOSITE of what they tell you actually is what works. This comes from experience and from analyzing interactions in these circumstances. Not from following rules by anyone.

And this is why so many people get to a certain point and "get stuck" there. Because they blindly follow these rules as if they are sacred. They aren't.

 

[lizardking82]

So what should we do according to you guys, go lick a woman's boots as soon as she calls? Is it forbidden for men to have requests and to respect themselves? Or do we go to our "owner" when they call? She blew him off a couple of months ago.

For some unenlightened people here, I am not suggesting he act bitter and proud nor am I suggesting he blow her away (although if he was in the right place mentally, he probably would). All that's being suggested to OP is that he has her come over and not him go to her. This might seem like a little, unimportant detail to you, but it would set the tone in favour of the OP since he would start off with a simple request this girl should be able to complete without any problem if her interest is real.

Further on for the unenlightened people around here, this girl might tell OP "No, I won't come over, you must come here", we understand that this is a ****ed up situation. Oh god, why is it so hard for people here to have some standards? Like, do you go bang a woman just cause she wants to be banged? That's some facking R-selective behaviour right there. Who gives a damn she wants him to come over? Does he wanna go over there? Should he go over there? Is this a woman who badly wants the **** of the OP inside of her cause he's such an amazing and charming guy or does OP go and be one of the ****s that will penetrate her, get 1 or 2 lays out of her and go home feeling even more confused than before?

Like, this is such basic **** and it is amazing to see someone who has 2500 likes and is an old timer here have trouble understanding the bigger picture in this one.

 

[Macaframalama]

Just another example of how people attempt to treat every situation exactly the same with no use of context. Situations are fluid there are no hard and fast rules only guidelines that make more or less sense in any given context.

Instead of having guidelines and using judgement based on context they attempt to base their judgement in what the rules say. They arent designed to be used like that. Never have been. These rules are mostly designed to help guys who are still taking baby steps along and tend to be the polar opposite of what they would do in a given situation from where they are coming from.

Once you get far enough a long, you see these rules for what they are...hindrances to your ability to get laid many times instead of helps. You find yourself in situations you would have never been in previously and in which those "rules" don't work well in and often times doing the OPPOSITE of what they tell you actually is what works. This comes from experience and from analyzing interactions in these circumstances. Not from following rules by anyone.

And this is why so many people get to a certain point and "get stuck" there. Because they blindly follow these rules as if they are sacred. They aren't.

Exactly. Seems like Pook was mentioned earlier in the post, but anyways, here's another. "Be not contained by formula"

 

[lizardking82]

Exactly. Seems like Pook was mentioned earlier in the post, but anyways, here's another. "Be not contained by formula"

It is not a formula. It is not rules. I am not suggesting any of this. I am being situational and reading the situation. You guys are telling the OP to go into this one like ***** is air or food. Once again, I am telling that OP is never going to grow a strong frame and mindset by acting this way. He might and will get the occasional *****, but having a weak frame will affect him badly in many other areas of his life. He will become a "yes man". A man in search of the proof that this theory works LOL

OP should never be scared to tell her to come over cause "he might lose the chance". **** the chance, **** this chick, she;'s nothing. We are not talking about OP getting this piece of ass or not, I am talking about something more important. It takes balls to turn down something tempting and not everyone can do it, but I guarantee OP is going to get laid without trouble in the future if he maintains this attitude.

His attitude right now should be "What, you blew me off and now you suddenly want me to come over? No ****in' way, you are lucky I am considering you to come over at my place and MAYBE, MAYBE, if I am in the mood, we're bangin'". He shouldn;t be like "What? Come over? Bang? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes please. Yes, cause I am so thirsty, yes" LOL