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This whole thing sucks because I know I'm worth way more than this.
You think you are worth a whole lot.

People that see you and interact with you don't agree.

This is a very common human problem, one very few people do anything about.

Welcome to Earth.
 
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You think you are worth a whole lot.

People that see you and interact with you don't agree.

This is a very common human problem, one very few people do anything about.

Welcome to Earth.
No it's based on real things. Why I would deserve better than an obese girl on POF.

Just because you give yourself a goofy name and goofy picture and talk like Buddha doesn't mean I'm gonna listen to you.
 

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I don't know what to work on, but I sure as hell know the prize isn't some pu$$y.
Everyone keeps telling you to work on your social skills because they're non-existent. Quit making stupid excuses and work on that. The Bootcamp is the closest thing you'll get to a quick fix for it.

And again, why would I want to go to bars and talk to other guys? The last 3 male "friends" I had have all ended up with me calling the police on them for theft.
You aren't out to make best friends, you're approaching them because it's the easiest thing to do. Guys usually go out to party, and the more, the merrier. Once you're through the guys, you can work on the girls.
Okay but if saying anything besides "where the b1tches at?" then it's weird and pointless.
Going to strip clubs and hoping for one to be a prostitute who's going to proposition you for a lay is weird and pointless. Being social is beneficial in many ways, and it's attractive to women.

This whole thing sucks because I know I'm worth way more than this.
You're not worth anything because you won't get off your ass and put in the effort required to be successful with women or social interaction.

Except that the girls you fvck are barely even hot.
You have no right to judge the women he fvcks because you can't even find one yourself. If you want to judge him, then go out and find yourself a woman who's better looking and is willing to fvck you for the same price (which is zero dollars)

Everyone on this site wants to see you be successful. They have the advice and the knowledge to help you get laid for free. However, if you're not wanting to put in the effort to make it happen, then you're just a whiny, bytchy wimp who can't get laid.
 

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If 8.5s and 9s dont turn your head........wait. Coming from you it makes perfect sense.

Keep being a hater. I will keep pulling 8.5s and 9s. You'll never get it dude.
 

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Why I would deserve better than an obese girl on POF.
This is up to that obese girl on POF.

obese POF girl puts up a profile. She gets attention from several guys. She looks at all these guys and categorized them from best to worst.

All girls do this.

How you come up in their subjective hierarchical categorization has NOTHING TO DO with how you view yourself, and EVERYTHING to do with how they view you.

How they view you has everything to do with what they are COMPARING you to.

This has a great deal to do with the BEHAVIOR of all those other guys they are comparing you to.

If I'm choosing apples at the supermarket, I don't care what the apples think about themselves, or how they imagine their own worth as an apple.

I only care about their value to ME based on MY OWN SUBJECTIVE reasoning.

When girls look at guys, they do the SAME THING.

Based ONLY on what you post about your situations, it's clear that most PEOPLE you interact with don't place a high value on you.

But you seem to think that YOUR IDEA OF YOURSELF is all that matters.

You're like some homeless guy that has delusions that he's king of Earth and wonders why people don't give him love and money when he's ranting and raving on the street corner.
 
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This is up to that obese girl on POF.

obese POF girl puts up a profile. She gets attention from several guys. She looks at all these guys and categorized them from best to worst.

All girls do this.

How you come up in their subjective hierarchical categorization has NOTHING TO DO with how you view yourself, and EVERYTHING to do with how they view you.

How they view you has everything to do with what they are COMPARING you to.

This has a great deal to do with the BEHAVIOR of all those other guys they are comparing you to.

If I'm choosing apples at the supermarket, I don't care what the apples think about themselves, or how they imagine their own worth as an apple.

I only care about their value to ME based on MY OWN SUBJECTIVE reasoning.

When girls look at guys, they do the SAME THING.

Based ONLY on what you post about your situations, it's clear that most PEOPLE you interact with don't place a high value on you.

But you seem to think that YOUR IDEA OF YOURSELF is all that matters.

You're like some homeless guy that has delusions that he's king of Earth and wonders why people don't give him love and money when he's ranting and raving on the street corner.
Okay and can't I place my own subjective value on them? The lazy, broke, obese girl on POF is the judge of me and I have to impress her? I don't think so.

Do you think a hamster wheel can accurately determine value? Or do they just like shiny objects?

We can't judge the girls because they have so many options that they MUST be worth something, right? After all, they have a butt!
 

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Unless you're walking into the place with a woman, stay out of strip bars.
Enlighten me. I have had ex's that wanted to go to strip clubs with me. I never understood why. Not to say anything is wrong with it, but what is the purpose of bringing a girl? What am I missing?

Anyone?
 

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Okay and can't I place my own subjective value on them? The lazy, broke, obese girl on POF is the judge of me and I have to impress her? I don't think so.

Do you think a hamster wheel can accurately determine value? Or do they just like shiny objects?

We can't judge the girls because they have so many options that they MUST be worth something, right? After all, they have a butt!
You seemed to have missed the memo on how humans operate on this planet.

Everybody is simultaneously judging others while being judged by others.

If you judge somebody else as valuable, and they judge you as valuable, you might have the basis for a friendship or a relationship.

If you judge somebody as valuable and they judge you as NOT valuable, there won't be a friendship or relationship. Since one person wants a relationship and the other doesn't, this usually results in "negative" human emotions.

If you judge somebody as NOT valuable and they judge you as NOT valuable, then there won't be a friendship or relationship. Since neither party wants the relationship, this doesn't generally create negative emotions.

You seem to want something from others. This means you judge some part of them as valuable.

However, it would appear that few other humans find ANY value in "you" behind the cash you are willing to hand over.

This seems to be causing you a great deal of frustration.

The natural solution would be to INCREASE the value you have to offer BEYOND the cash you might hand over.

This is where you seem to be running into problems.

You don't think you SHOULD have to increase your value.

You seem to have the mindset that "I want therefore I should get."

Which is a very adolescent mindset.

Adults tend to realize that if they want something from others, they need to give those others something that others see as equally valuable.

But the bottom line is this:

Unless others see value in YOU for THEIR REASONS, they aren't going to interact with you unless you pay them.

So you can either ACCEPT that, or figure out a way to INCREASE YOUR VALUE based on what THEY want.

This is more or less the human condition, like it or not.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Enlighten me. I have had ex's that wanted to go to strip clubs with me. I never understood why. Not to say anything is wrong with it, but what is the purpose of bringing a girl? What am I missing?

Anyone?
Buy her a few drinks and a few lap dances, and good luck not getting raped in the car on the way home.
 

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That's your choice, but if that's the case, then why are you hanging out on a site geared toward seduction and self-improvement?
To troll all of us. I'm perplexed as to why he hasn't gotten banned
 

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Everyone on this site wants to see you be successful.
I don't any longer. I could care less. He is a pain in the a ss. It's amazing that someone can be as dense as he seems to be.
 

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Ill throw in my recent antecdote for a good example of how I got an hbs # in a strip club. Went to one a few weeks ago after a retardedly bad day at work. It was a little after 5 pm. I walk inside and there's maybe 10-12 people In there including strippers. Went straight to the bar and ordered a beer, pulled out a cigar and played on my phone. A few strippers came up and introduced themselves. I was polite but my demeanor told them I wasn't going to be giving them attention and throwing money at them.

I noticed a fine ass stripper sitting back with a few others watching the first few approach me. After I shut them down she came up and put herself in my line of sight. I made no reaction to her until I knocked over my beer and she yelled party fowl while moving closer. We both laughed about it and I returned to my phone. She asked how I was and I told her I've been better but everything will be ok. I can handle it. Again returning to my phone.

About 3 beers in I grabbed my drink and walked to a small table off to the side and sat down, still playing on my phone. Eventually she was up on stage for her routine. I didn't watch a single second of her 2 dances. A little while later another chick walks on stage I and im about ready to go. I notice the fine ass strpper walk past me and I yell to the top of my lungs "YO!" She turns around and comes up to me. I put my arm around her waist and pull her close. She puts her arm around my shoulders and I ask her name.

I ask what she does when she's not shaking her ass on stage and I get the working through college and weed life schpeel. I tell her I'm about to head out and I want her number while im opening up my contacts tab. I ask her name again on purpose to drive home the dgaf vibe. She give me her name and number, I get up and slap her on the ass while walking off and telling her I'll hit her up one night. Texted her a few days ago and set up a date for this weekend. Nothing may ever come of it and she may flake but who knows.

I say all of this is to point out that you truly have to hit an idgaf mentality to start having success with these women. A few years ago I would have been a nervous wreck and ****ed that whole situation up by astronomical proportions. It's all about repetition and real world practice. Go out, keep pushing yourself and don't focus on them. Focus on you. Stop comparing yourself to others.

A beard, big arms and money won't put you at any more of an advantage than an average guy. That's what I am. Average. This chick gets well off guys, tatted up bearded bikers, etc. all the time. So why did I get her number? I played it cool and enjoyed myself. I made it about me. I don't know if this story or my advice will help anyone but there it is.
 
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Ill throw in my recent antecdote for a good example of how I got an hbs # in a strip club. Went to one a few weeks ago after a retardedly bad day at work. It was a little after 5 pm. I walk inside and there's maybe 10-12 people In there including strippers. Went straight to the bar and ordered a beer, pulled out a cigar and played on my phone. A few strippers came up and introduced themselves. I was polite but my demeanor told them I wasn't going to be giving them attention and throwing money at them.

I noticed a fine ass stripper sitting back with a few others watching the first few approach me. After I shut them down she came up and put herself in my line of sight. I made no reaction to her until I knocked over my beer and she yelled party fowl while moving closer. We both laughed about it and I returned to my phone. She asked how I was and I told her I've been better but everything will be ok. I can handle it. Again returning to my phone.

About 3 beers in I grabbed my drink and walked to a small table off to the side and sat down, still playing on my phone. Eventually she was up on stage for her routine. I didn't watch a single second of her 2 dances. A little while later another chick walks on stage I and im about ready to go. I notice the fine ass strpper walk past me and I yell to the top of my lungs "YO!" She turns around and comes up to me. I put my arm around her waist and pull her close. She puts her arm around my shoulders and I ask her name.

I ask what she does when she's not shaking her ass on stage and I get the working through college and weed life schpeel. I tell her I'm about to head out and I want her number while im opening up my contacts tab. I ask her name again on purpose to drive home the dgaf vibe. She give me her name and number, I get up and slap her on the ass while walking off and telling her I'll hit her up one night. Texted her a few days ago and set up a date for this weekend. Nothing may ever come of it and she may flake but who knows.

I say all of this is to point out that you truly have to hit an idgaf mentality to start having success with these women. A few years ago I would have been a nervous wreck and ****ed that whole situation up by astronomical proportions. It's all about repetition and real world practice. Go out, keep pushing yourself and don't focus on them. Focus on you. Stop comparing yourself to others.

A beard, big arms and money won't put you at any more of an advantage than an average guy. That's what I am. Average. This chick gets well off guys, tatted up bearded bikers, etc. all the time. So why did I get her number? I played it cool and enjoyed myself. I made it about me. I don't know if this story or my advice will help anyone but there it is.
Yea about 2 years ago I got a strippers number without giving her any money. Just talking to her at the bar like normal. She actually texted me the next day asking what's up. I replied something like "not much. Your pu$$y was looking so good last night, wish I could see it in person." She said I had a crude way of talking and I was like "my bad lol." Then she texted me a few hours later asking if I had any plans. I said nothing major and asked did she want to do something. She didn't text back.

The club I was at the other night... I was there a few months ago and one of the girls told her friend that she finds me attractive when she overheard me talking about real estate and flipping houses. I saw her the other night, but didn't talk to her and she didn't talk to me.

So it can be done. Obviously these girls have sex with SOMEONE. But neither of our stories involved any sex. I think that has to be done in the VIP room or back at your place for money, which is prostitution and no accomplishment. But I didn't make the world how it is.
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

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most strippers arent going home with guys they look at as suckers and random johns, a lot of them are lesbians and into women only, and also depending on where you live strip clubs are usually just brothels where you can pay one of the women to give you handjobs or sex in the private dance so you dont need to bother dating them, the strip club is a place you go to buy handjobs at after getting high and drunk in the parking lot not really a place you regularly go to pick up dates, if one of the wh0res who lets men grope her all day long and takes loads to her face from strangers decides she wants to date you great but that shouldnt be the main reason you go there
 
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most strippers arent going home with guys they look at as suckers and random johns, a lot of them are lesbians and into women only, and also depending on where you live strip clubs are usually just brothels where you can pay one of the women to give you handjobs or sex in the private dance so you dont need to bother dating them, the strip club is a place you go to buy handjobs at after getting high and drunk in the parking lot not really a place you regularly go to pick up dates, if one of the wh0res who lets men grope her all day long and takes loads to her face from strangers decides she wants to date you great but that shouldnt be the main reason you go there
I guess asking them to go to VIP is code for sex.
 
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