Simplicity

[Tenacity]

Simplicity really boils down @Tenacity to being true to ones self. That is all. In order to do that however one must figure who one is, and therefore what are you being true to.

My original post is that we complicate life too much sometimes. All you have right now is RIGHT NOW. We add on all these unnecessary layers of BS because our priorities are whacked. Our priorities get whacked because we are conditioned to think that we need to function in a certain way in a certain matrix or system. How does that serve OUR purpose? It doesn't. Particularly if we have no idea what our purpose is.

Hello. What is the red pill? Unplugging from the matrix; seeing behind the system to which we have become conditioned. And that's all well, fine and good. But unless we know what we want, what we are personally doing...we can unplug all we want, but we still haven't empowered ourselves to utilize our own personal power and take advantage of our red pill paradigm shift to utilize what we know for our own purposes. Perhaps we don't think we actually have any personal power.......Oh but we do. I do. You do. We all do.

Read my post again and tell me specifically where I'm wrong? http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/simplicity.244653/page-3#post-2488002

@BeExcellent, honest question, do you honestly believe WE as men (or people in general) make life complicated, or is life complicated the moment we get here?

The vast majority of mankind exists in countries where they aren't free @BeExcellent. They can't go, eat, live, work, or do anything of their own free will......they are under the direction of a dictator. That's the vast majority of mankind on the planet today.

For those of us "blessed" (quote, unquote) to be in one of the free countries like America, we are at the mercy of Big Business, Big Government, the Federal Reserve, and other Macro-Economic GIANTS that completely and utterly determine how our individual lives will play out. If these folks (like Trump and Congress) decide they want to start WORLD WAR 3 tomorrow, many of of us on this forum (if not all of us) would either be required to be drafted into the War to be blown up....or we would get blown up on land due to the War....a War we have absolutely NO control over.

Look at cost of living and inflation, what control do we have over that?

Look at the state of the job market, with technology and globalization destroying the good paying jobs, what control do we have over that?

What exactly DO we control @BeExcellent? Even if I ran a small business (which I do) I'm still at the mercy of the same Big Business, Big Government, Federal Reserve powers that be.

TELL me where I'm wrong at in this assessment?? Please point it out.

 

[BeExcellent]

Several things. Firstly my assertions are not emotionally based. They are awareness based. Awareness and emotion are not the same thing.

We all retain control of ourselves. Period. We all make choices, period. Now obviously those choices have consequences. Those consequences may be perceived as adverse. But NO ONE can take away the autonomy of another human being. Human beings rather choose to give up their autonomy. We are not helpless if we retain and remain aware of the power of choice. Fat Boy Slim has a wonderful song called "Weapon of Choice". I'm guessing you may know it.

In saying people are not free, in saying we must follow big government, etc., etc., etc., you reveal that your attitude is one of HELPLESSNESS. You are not helpless. None of us are. We might choose the path of least resistance to avoid the adverse consequences...but do not make the error of absolution. That is a choice.

Final thing. Your message to keep striving is a good message. Mine is to simplify. These can be done in tandem. I have an entire thread about that in Wealth and Success as you are aware. To simplify and to strive are NOT mutually exclusive. Do BOTH.

That's what I do....BOTH.

 

[Tenacity]

Several things. Firstly my assertions are not emotionally based. They are awareness based. Awareness and emotion are not the same thing.

We all retain control of ourselves. Period. We all make choices, period. Now obviously those choices have consequences. Those consequences may be perceived as adverse. But NO ONE can take away the autonomy of another human being. Human beings rather choose to give up their autonomy. We are not helpless if we retain and remain aware of the power of choice. Fat Boy Slim has a wonderful song called "Weapon of Choice". I'm guessing you may know it.

In saying people are not free, in saying we must follow big government, etc., etc., etc., you reveal that your attitude is one of HELPLESSNESS. You are not helpless. None of us are. We might choose the path of least resistance to avoid the adverse consequences...but do not make the error of absolution. That is a choice.

Final thing. Your message to keep striving is a good message. Mine is to simplify. These can be done in tandem. I have an entire thread about that in Wealth and Success as you are aware. To simplify and to strive are NOT mutually exclusive. Do BOTH.

That's what I do....BOTH.

@BeExcellent.....wait a minute....*pulls up a chair*......sit down for a minute.

Breathe..........breathe in, breathe out.......

Now, @BeExcellent, are you going to sit up here and tell me, that what I just said in those last couple of posts, is inaccurate? Inaccurate in that there are systems, players, etc., at play, that dictate how the majority of our lives turn out, that we have no control over.

Breathe.......breathe in, breathe out.....relax......think clearly.....and honestly tell me I'm wrong about what I said. Don't tell me if what I said makes you feel good or not, don't tell me if it's uplifting or positive or not.....just tell me if I'm wrong.

 

[BeExcellent]

@BeExcellent.....wait a minute....*pulls up a chair*......sit down for a minute.

Breathe..........breathe in, breathe out.......

Now, @BeExcellent, are you going to sit up here and tell me, that what I just said in those last couple of posts, is inaccurate? Inaccurate in that there are systems, players, etc., at play, that dictate how the majority of our lives turn out, that we have no control over.

Breathe.......breathe in, breathe out.....relax......think clearly.....and honestly tell me I'm wrong about what I said.

There are things we do not have control over. That is true. We DO have control over ourselves. That includes our attitudes and beliefs. In fact at times that is all we have control over. But there is power is exercising the control we have of ourselves. These two things are not mutually exclusive either.

And keep up the deep breathing silly. It's actually good for you.

 

[guru1000]

BE, there’s research now that has proven how our thoughts can affect outside matter. Read my thread in the Anything Else section.

Finally, science is beginning to confirm what some of us knew all along.

 

[Tenacity]

Ill back her up on this. This is true. Absolute.

@Tenacity thinking is only a tool. Ultimately thinking will not solve everything.
If this were true thinking can bring us more time but in reality when thinking stops so does time. Ever hear the saying "time flies when your having fun"
And we have all heard the stories about
A man being able to lift up a vehichle to save somone. When asked they dont really remember thinking at all.
Theres a power greater then thinking.
Its also why women are most attracted to you when your not thinking so much.

Sir, could you review the posts I made and tell me where specifically I'm wrong? Again, you guys are trying to argue these Law of Attraction theories, when I'm looking at the specific FACTS on the table.

For example, can you please tell me how the Law of Attraction and Positive Thinking, is going to increase my S&P 500 Index Fund returns next year? Do my THOUGHTS control that, or do movements within a Domestic and International Macro-Economic environment control that, of which I have NO control over whatsoever?

Explain to me how the Law of Attraction and Positive Thinking will increase my S&P 500 Index Fund returns. I'll wait...because I want to know, if you know something that I don't know, please tell.

 

[Urbanyst]

@Urbanyst I don't necessarily disagree with you. I also don't have you on ignore. I don't have anyone on ignore. Nobody really bugs me here all that much. I get some flak, but it's a men's forum. I get it and it's all good.

There used to be a saying that must still be in circulation some that I've no idea who said it...but it is:

"Along the way, take time to smell the roses."

And basically all it's saying is that on the journey between here and there, between now and the future, stop, slow down, be. Just pause and exist and be fully present. Take a moment and quietly observe everything around you. Smile at someone on the train, do some small kindness for someone else. Perhaps that small kindness is the only nice or considerate thing that happened to that person that day. Cultivate in yourself a generosity of spirit and pour that out everywhere you go.

It is totally possible to do this while pursuing your goals for the future. But it requires arranging one's priorities differently. It comes out of being true to one's priorities and learning to say "No" when something does not line up with those priorities rather than saying yes to everything from a place of fear.

Here is an example of what I mean. I was offered a position this time last year. Full time, six figure gig, required moving my children (who are stable and in school/well established) across the country. I told the person making the offer I couldn't accept the post as I was unwilling to uproot my kids. The people offering me the position wanted me very much however. So they made me an offer to commute. And work 70% FTE (100% while in house; 30% while remote from my home). At the same money. So for 2 solid weeks a month I'm home being a parent and doing some work part time while my kids are in school...and the other two weeks I'm at my secondary residence working FT at my client. All because I was willing to say NO and walk away from an opportunity that did not line up with my goals and how I choose to structure my life. Once I said NO the opportunity recreated itself to suit my goals. But that only happened because of my willingness to honor myself and turn it down in the original format.

That is exercise of personal power. Remember Poon King's thread "The Power of No?" That's the power of NO in action.

You can do BOTH BeExcellent. Doesn't have to be one or the other.

I've been doing BOTH for a while now. For instance.. posting on this forum doesn't help me make MONEY. But it serves somewhat as a diary of my PRESENT thoughts and priorities at the moment. However, don't think for a second I'm not factoring in all the decisions I make TODAY and how they will impact me in the future. Decisions as simple as what to eat for lunch, popping into my bosses office to chat and if I will skip the gym today or not. All these small decisions make a difference.

I always make time for FUN though unless I have a pressing major fire to put out in my life. And there have been times when I just have a major issue I had to focus on and everything else took a back seat. Otherwise, I do BOTH and make time for fun while also making SMART choices.

 

[guru1000]

Tenacity no one is saying you are wrong. I think a big fear of yours is being wrong because you have alot of your identity wrapped up into your success and business formulas. Wich is fine.
Thinking did have a building block in your success but everything happened within your awareness.
Idont think this is about the law of attraction.
Just as your businesses and your S&P index are governed by laws. So is the universe that governs where and how these processes take place.
Your facts are based off of Human business models or processes that happen within a bigger structure.
Once a person becomes aware of content versus structure and the interchangable nature of them with life situations. You will laugh your ass off so hard you may even cry.

Also:

1) This research is conclusive in that thoughts affect matter, not that thoughts affect the S&P;

2) The S&P has competing thoughts (bulls & bears), thus rendering individual thoughts irrelevant.

 

[Tenacity]

Tenacity no one is saying you are wrong. I think a big fear of yours is being wrong because you have alot of your identity wrapped up into your success and business formulas. Wich is fine.
Thinking did have a building block in your success but everything happened within your awareness.
Idont think this is about the law of attraction.
Just as your businesses and your S&P index are governed by laws. So is the universe that governs where and how these processes take place.
Your facts are based off of Human business models or processes that happen within a bigger structure.
Once a person becomes aware of content versus structure and the interchangable nature of them with life situations. You will laugh your ass off so hard you may even cry.

Sir, it's not that I can't be wrong or don't want to be wrong, if I'm wrong I want to know it!

I'm just confused at some of the things you guys are saying, because it's seemingly going all over the place. For example:

- On one hand, you are saying what I said is correct, that we can't control most of what happens to us in life, we aren't the "only common denominator", and we don't live in a vacuum. There are systems, players, etc., at play that can make our lives a LIVING HELL if they wanted to, as they honestly are the ones in true control of everything. For example, if they decide to shut down the banking, healthcare, and food systems......what exactly are "we" going to do?

- Then on the other hand, you guys keep saying if someone thinks POSITIVE they can affect their outcomes in life. The vast majority of mankind lives and exists under a 3rd world dictatorship. The vast majority of mankind DOES NOT have the free will ability to just make their own choices, or think positive and change their outcomes. Now this is a fact.....so how is it that you guys keep saying that a guy can just randomly THINK POSITIVE and ANYTHING HE WANTS will happen for him??

Bringing it full circle to the women discussion, the entire dating culture of 2017 is completely and utterly different than the way it was in 1997. Completely and utterly different. Are you guys seriously telling me that if I just think POSITIVE, my thinking POSITIVE will over-power these new cultural changes? That doesn't even make any sense!

 

[guru1000]

Which of these two women would any of you enjoy your company with:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1.....0.0.0....0.ktKc9D0Kodc#imgrc=UOC9YJXvNfZMmM:

or

https://www.google.com/search?q=hap...AUICigB&biw=1266&bih=894#imgrc=jFsG_dJdDSFU2M:

Assuming they were both equally your type and this was their permanent face.

 

[Tenacity]

Which of these two women would any of you enjoy your company with:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1.....0.0.0....0.ktKc9D0Kodc#imgrc=UOC9YJXvNfZMmM:

or

https://www.google.com/search?q=hap...AUICigB&biw=1266&bih=894#imgrc=jFsG_dJdDSFU2M:

Assuming they were both equally your type and this was their permanent face.

Sir, if you know how to ACT.....I will entertain this discussion with you and keep you off ignore. I swear Guru, one flame, personal attack, troll, or racist comment I'm done.

To answer your question, the second one. But the first one is beautiful, are you honestly stating that the first one would NOT get dudes approaching her, just because she has a mean look? Beautiful women are going to get approached regardless.

 

[guru1000]

Sir, if you know how to ACT.....I will entertain this discussion with you and keep you off ignore. I swear Guru, one flame, personal attack, troll, or racist comment I'm done.

To answer your question, the second one. But the first one is beautiful, are you honestly stating that the first one would NOT get dudes approaching her, just because she has a mean look? Beautiful women are going to get approached regardless.

My assertion was not that she wasn't beautiful nor that she would not get approached.

My statement was if you had to pick between the two assuming (1) they were equally your type; and (2) this was their permanent face: Whom would you choose to spend your time with? And why?

 

[Tenacity]

My statement was if you had to pick between the two assuming (1) they were equally your type; and (2) this was their permanent face: Whom would you choose to spend your time with? And why?

The one without the mean look as she's more "inviting" and seems "nicer".......however.......

My assertion was not that she wasn't beautiful nor that she would not get approached.

Then that means whatever point you are making is irrelevant. If the woman is still going to get approached because she's beautiful (honestly more beautiful than the smiling chick) then her lack of a "positive attitude" is not affecting her success.

 

[guru1000]

The one without the mean look as she's more "inviting" and seems "nicer".......however.......



Then that means whatever point you are making is irrelevant. If the woman is still going to get approached because she's beautiful (honestly more beautiful than the smiling chick) then her lack of a "positive attitude" is not affecting her success.

I disagree:

1) Approach: The mean-faced woman if equally attractive would likely get approached less as her look is not as inviting. Some men will approach anyway does not translate into all men who would have approached will approach;

2) LTR: The mean-faced girl if approached would likely be the pump-and-dump girl, as who in their right mind wishes to spend their life with a mean-spirited or poor-attitude woman.

According to you, you would choose the more inviting, nicer girl. Smart choice. So would many others.

Very important distinction here is dealing with "attitude."

You of all know best that Laquisha with the poor-attitide is not one whom you could consider LTR material; hence, your requirement of no/little attitude as part of your criterion.

1) So if want to meet a girl with no attitude, what makes you think that having a bad attitude is facilitating your finding an LTR with a woman whom is also looking for a man (of equal SMV) with no attitude?

2) Exactly as you chose the woman with a good attitude, who would the "quality" LTR woman choose if she had a choice between the good-attitude Tenacity and the bad-attitude Tenacity for an LTR? Which Tenacity is a stronger LTR candidate for such a woman?

 

[Charmaine]

Hence, you have a woman teaching men how to be men.

Hmmm...weren't most men raised by a woman who taught them how to be a man before they became one?

 

[Asasione]

Hmmm...weren't most men raised by a woman who taught them how to be a man before they became one?

Not really most women can't teach a man how to become a man, and neither do fathers explicitly teach their kids how to behave like a man. Fathers teach by example, having a man around the house and seeing how he treats others and his behavioral traits, patterns and attitude is how I personally learned. I doubt you'll find fathers sitting down with their kids having lengthy conversations when they're young, which is why conversations about being a man by a mother wouldn't really work in my opinion. Interesting question

 

[user43770]

The present is more often than not consumed with feelings of longing or boredom.

You can overcome these feelings, but only during brief moments of pleasure, by making a conscious effort not to think about anything at all, or by focusing on some task at hand. The common factor in these things is we aren't thinking about life.

It's ironic.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Hmmm...weren't most men raised by a woman who taught them how to be a man before they became one?

Pure B. S. A woman cannot teach a man how to be a man.

-Augustus-

 

[Tenacity]

I know it can look confusing and i dont mean to confuse anyone. Neither does guru im sure.
Let me try it this way and use guru's analogy. And this does have to do with women. They wont like so much the details but LOVE when they feel it.

We all know that monday the market will open and trading and the bulls and bears will do there trading in the business world.

And we all know the moon will rise the tide at its proper time and place. Now my question for you to ponder is...if the market closes monday never to.open again will the tide still rise by the moons influence??
I would bet it would.
Compare that too your awareness being the tide and your thoughts being the bulls and bears. One comes and goes tbe other does not.
Now back to the topic why i butted in to begin with.
What @BeExcellent was refering to was a man being rooted within himself. That awareness can only happen in THIS moment. Not the past or future.
When i first hear someone say in literature all you ever have is the now.
It blew me away because my whole life was about the next thing, the past and future and all the bs it brings. Thats not to say its not useful. But my self awareness does come from those things anymore. And it never can again.
This helps with ALL relationships because it opens up a big space for them to happen because thought is not drowning you any longer.
Theres nothing wrong with success. Success and failure are opposite ends of the same pundelum. Cant have one without the other.

But once you move in awareness and the now what you do.is a HELL OF ALOT LESS STRESSFUL LOL.
Its a practice and its evolving for everyone to grow from wether it looks good or bad.

And yes women love this because your true power comes from what i just described but you truly have to realize this for yourself. We can just point to it.

Listen, I understand the "theory", but in my opinion (and just hear me out a second) it's truly impossible to live in the NOW. Why do I say this?

Because you clicking on my reply and reading this reply, might have taken you 30 seconds. As you continue to read, seconds are steady ticking. Those "seconds" are the NOW. Even though you might have been reading this reply now for about 45 seconds, you having READ this reply up until this point reflects the PAST (even if it's only be less than 60 seconds).

As humans stuck in "time", time is always moving and moving rapidly. Newton mentioned that our bodies are always in motion and when you break it down further, as you SIT there reading my reply, your heart, blood streams, and other bodily functions are MOVING.

In order to live in the NOW, you have to operate in the SECOND, which is impossible due to the rapid pace that a SECOND moves. So as humans, we are always operating in the Past or prepping/operating in the FUTURE. Al Pacino's character, Ricky Roma, in Glengarry Glenn Ross asked a question........he asked:

"What is our life? Our life is lookin' forward, or it's lookin' back. That's it. That's our life. Where's the moment?"

The answer is simple, there is no moment.

 

[Tenacity]

1) So if want to meet a girl with no attitude, what makes you think that having a bad attitude is facilitating your finding an LTR with a woman whom is also looking for a man (of equal SMV) with no attitude?

When approaching women, when managing women, and all other interactions with women ALONG WITH business associates, colleagues, clients, potential clients, bankers, potential financiers, etc........I do not display a negative, low energy, hard to work with, hard to get along, attitude. My attitude is professional, upbeat, energetic, class clownish, and welcoming.

This forum, as I've also told you before, has been used as my Personal Rant Blog. A Personal Diary. A Personal Therapist. I come here and let loose, rant, bytch, complain, moan, scream, yell, or whatever. I thought this was an outlet for GROWN MEN to be able to do that, apparently it's not.

Excuse me Sir, but I wasn't aware that coming on Sosuave and RANTING about various things.........defined my character and personal attitude when interacting with people in real life? You can't possibly be making this argument? You have to know deep down that argument makes no sense.

How can I have succeeded in life Guru, in my industry, with that type of attitude? Hell, how would I have even acquired the 200 plus women over the last 7 years with that attitude? Hell, how would I have lost the pounds and seen my 6 pack with that attitude?? Come on dude.......