I give up on women

[Die Hard]

That's all very recognizable.. Last month I broke up with a dumb butch just like yours, she displayed the exact same behavior.

But she had shown red flags before, so I tell myself I can't really be perplexed at her disgusting, hypocrite, childish behavior.. I wonder if that's the case for you too?

Also, I tend to attract crazy bytches like honey attracts bees all my life. But that says more about me than it does about women in general. Not all women are like that, man. Sure, ALMOST all of them are like that! Perhaps 90% of them, which is depressing.. But all this means is you should not expect anything when dating those 90% bytches and wait until you find one of the 10% women instead!

THEN you can expect her to act reasonable, THEN you become exclusive with her etc. In the meanwhile, you use those 90% bytches just to keep yourself occupied. Be aware that they are not the real thing and keep your focus on the future which will come AFTER them! The future where you will have a good woman at your side!

And of course, do keep improving yourself in the meantime.. Coz those 10% women are pretty special, and they will not be at your side if you aren't quite special yourself.

Battle on, dude. Dating women is a frustrating endeavor, we're all experiencing that sh!t and I recognize that feeling where you just wanna give up on all of them. Don't! Just stay focused, keep improving, keep moving forward...

 

[Bible_Belt]

"that is so sexy, maybe i should go find a german guy, they are so hot".

"Why aren't you being a gentleman and paying for my coffee?"

When the day comes that you finally realize that women just say stupid sh!t all the time, and it is nothing to take seriously, then you are going to be happy in a relationship. Until that occurs, you will continue to suffer the same frustrations, which by the way, are coming from your own insecurities just as much as from her mouth. Her words are only an issue because of the way you let it affect you.

 

[SkrooU]

"that is so sexy, maybe i should go find a german guy, they are so hot".

"Why aren't you being a gentleman and paying for my coffee?"

When the day comes that you finally realize that women just say stupid sh!t all the time, and it is nothing to take seriously, then you are going to be happy in a relationship. Until that occurs, you will continue to suffer the same frustrations, which by the way, are coming from your own insecurities just as much as from her mouth. Her words are only an issue because of the way you let it affect you.

If they didn't sh1t their pants when I say something similar, then maybe I wouldn't care. Double standards don't work with me. Sorry, but I demand expect respect if I'm giving it. Nothing insecure about that. Gotta draw the line somewhere.
If I remember correctly, you're not interested in an actual relationship. So from your point of view, your opinion makes sense. If I give up options for someone, it changes the dynamics of what matters.
Also, this comment was made in front of the cashier and other customers. This kind of disrespect is nothing to shrug off. A women with class would at least give me the opportunity to pay, and if I didn't, then she would talk about it in private in a non accusatory approach.

 

[RedScorpion]

If they didn't sh1t their pants when I say something similar, then maybe I wouldn't care. Double standards don't work with me. Sorry, but I demand expect respect if I'm giving it. Nothing insecure about that. Gotta draw the line somewhere.
If I remember correctly, you're not interested in an actual relationship. So from your point of view, your opinion makes sense. If I give up options for someone, it changes the dynamics of what matters.
Also, this comment was made in front of the cashier and other customers. This kind of disrespect is nothing to shrug off. A women with class would at least give me the opportunity to pay, and if I didn't, then she would talk about it in private in a non accusatory approach.

I agree with your reaction with what happened in your situation. With kinds of generosity - it's suppose to be allowed to be given, rather than demanded or expected. It's even ruder when someone highlights it as an accusatory expectation. Kind of them saying "What is wrong with you??" It speaks of childishness and inability to restrain themselves to me. Generosity is supposed to be spontaneous and pleasant as well... never an expectation of the other person.

The other thing - ""that is so sexy, maybe i should go find a german guy, they are so hot". - I couldn't imagine saying to a chick I'm 10 seconds away from banging "Yeah I should find an Asian girl, man they are hot", and expect everything to be hunky dory.

It's a bunch of bull****. And most people are smart enough to realize saying **** like that is going to piss off your partner. You did good in handling this, imo.

 

[MrAddiction]

"that is so sexy, maybe i should go find a german guy, they are so hot".

"Why aren't you being a gentleman and paying for my coffee?"

German is hot? Wtf? This is no french. ...und ich weiß, wovon ich rede;-)
I would just answered such a sentence with amused mastery. In this cause something like that: my German is better than yours, so I will help you find one.
Whenever my x girlfriend mentioned that another guy would he hot, I instantly offered to her to introduce her to this stranger. Always worked me.

I might have said looking at her from feet to head. You are right - Adolf H would have liked you quite a lot. (Always with a big grin) but I think I still can fcuk you better;-)


Same with the gentleman line:
Why can't you be a gentleman?
- because it is boring (with a big grin) then talking to the cashier: she is paying mine to.
If she pays good, if she says no and starts bitching - then goodbye.

Or:
Sorry but you only booked the callboy package which does not include coffee and brekafast. Then grab her ass.

Or:
Why should I? (With a big grin)

 

[Bible_Belt]

Yes, agreed. The girl seems to need someone who can beat her at the game of witty comebacks. That's the "put her in her place" that she wants.

Why can't you be a gentleman?

I didn't realize you were a lady

But you have to keep your cool in order to pull that off.

 

[SkrooU]

Yes, agreed. The girl seems to need someone who can beat her at the game of witty comebacks. That's the "put her in her place" that she wants.

Why can't you be a gentleman?

I didn't realize you were a lady

But you have to keep your cool in order to pull that off.

Lol no man, this is actually how I handled it in front of the cashier, not to win points with her, but as damage control because we were in public. It did nothing but upset her because I wasn't being serious. She gets mad at my sarcasm when deflecting her entitlement flareups.

You're not getting it, Bible. This is not a flirting ball busting situation. This was a pattern of irrational entitlement. It is not relationship worthy. I can have fun with this kinda thing if I just want to get laid. But I had already accomplished that.

 

[SkrooU]

German is hot? Wtf? This is no french. ...und ich weiß, wovon ich rede;-)
I would just answered such a sentence with amused mastery. In this cause something like that: my German is better than yours, so I will help you find one.
Whenever my x girlfriend mentioned that another guy would he hot, I instantly offered to her to introduce her to this stranger. Always worked me.

I might have said looking at her from feet to head. You are right - Adolf H would have liked you quite a lot. (Always with a big grin) but I think I still can fcuk you better;-)


Same with the gentleman line:
Why can't you be a gentleman?
- because it is boring (with a big grin) then talking to the cashier: she is paying mine to.
If she pays good, if she says no and starts bitching - then goodbye.

Or:
Sorry but you only booked the callboy package which does not include coffee and brekafast. Then grab her ass.

Or:
Why should I? (With a big grin)

I don't care if she thinks Germans are hot. We had talked about who we think is attractive. But making the statement "maybe I should go find...." Nope. Pure disrespect.
There are things about this girl that I haven't mentioned, like the time I said my girlfriend when talking about an ex, and she basically yelled at me and said it was a major turn off to hear about it, AFTER she insisted we talk about my ex. She kept asking if I was looking at women when we were in the store. This chick was turning into a major pain on the a$$

 

[MrAddiction]

She gets mad at my sarcasm

That s when it is over for me. I would say that is a red flag in my arsenal.

 

[SkrooU]

That s when it is over for me. I would say that is a red flag in my arsenal.

I use sarcasm to screen chicks when I first meet them. This one loved it until she realized it applied to her entitlement mindset too. I probably made her laugh harder and longer than anyone I've met. But she had the worst jealousy and anger too. It just became too crazy very quickly. It was like as soon as I agreed to become exclusive, her inner monster was unleashed. To put things in perspective, this is what she texted me this morning, scattered over 50+ text messages:
(Summarized version)
Hi baby (lipstick emoji)
I think it is good we had a chance to talk about important subjects. We are learning how to communicate with each other. I am learning to understand you. I was thinking how we both are getting older and don't have children. A small family would make you happy. I am sure. You can wait longer because you are a man. But I am entering the unsafe zone. I could die from pregnancy. So it is something we must act quickly upon. I think within one year. I would prefer not to have kids. But just one, for you. I can do that for you. What do you think? Have a wonderful day my handsome man.

 

[Die Hard]

Cluster B psycho bytch...

Anyway, I hope you can soon let go of the shock and outrage over her behavior. The longer you stay occupied with her behavior, the longer it takes to move on from her.

I think part of you doesn't want to let go of her, part of you wants her back.. Flip that switch and do what you gotta do, leave the woman behind and move onto a better one!

 

[SkrooU]

Cluster B psycho bytch...

Anyway, I hope you can soon let go of the shock and outrage over her behavior. The longer you stay occupied with her behavior, the longer it takes to move on from her.

I think part of you doesn't want to let go of her, part of you wants her back.. Flip that switch and do what you gotta do, leave the woman behind and move onto a better one!

Good point. Hadn't considered the personality disorder possibility. I would say this was more scary and unexpected than outrage. It felt more like unintenional harrasment and overwhelming pressure to fix an imaginary problem a needy and entitled person created and forced upon me. I remember her saying that she has been screwed over by cheap men who talked down to her and wasted her prime years while her ugly friends snagged up good husbands.
An interesting bit I left out of her text summary - It has to be a boy. I do not want to bring a girl into this world. There are too many cheap pricks in the world. It is scary. With $10,000 we could guarantee a boy. Will you do that for us? No girls please. I hate women. I would just want to terminate it but I don't believe in abortion.

 

[BeExcellent]

@SkrooU you have officially escaped a nut job.

I was thinking it's more a relax & enjoy the art of banter but you then clarified that her behavior is a disrespectful pattern & was getting old, which I agree you shouldn't tolerate.

You broke up with her yesterday and today she wants to have your baby? That's a bit off in my book...not normal.

 

[Julian]

Yikes lol.this is why im not in a relationship currently. Should have never gone exclusive wit the hoe, bro!

 

[exhausted]

Just an update for anyone who likes to see proof that you shouldn't try to rationalize things like this.

I spent the weekend with her to just see what happens and to give her the talk in person instead of ghosting her, which has become a bad habit of mine. And this is what happened:
Show up saturday evening. She made a nice dinner, lit up about 100 candles, good bottle of wine. And she's having a good time. So I go with it, actually thinking I was going to overlook what happened. We get to her bed and she's feeling a little tipsy and acting like she's on cloud 9. At dinner we were talking about her learning German. I studied it for 2 years. So as she is lying there naked and me taking my shirt off she asks me to count to 10 in german. Then she says, "that is so sexy, maybe i should go find a german guy, they are so hot". Instant boner killer!
So I said it sounds like a plan and that I forgot I made plans with someone else that night and had to go. She of course gets upset and we go through about 20 minutes of her apologizing and making excuses and then saying I misunderstood. So I decided to nail her one last time anyway. And I fell asleep. I wake up to a good breakfast and after I say I am going to get coffee and asks if she wants to go. I planned to tell her that I didn't think we were a good match.
And at Starbucks, she puts her arm around mine and starts saying how sorry she was and how handsome I am and how she has never laughed so much with another guy.
Then I tell her to tell the cashier what she wants while I take 20 more seconds to look at the menu. And then I hear this: "Why aren't you being a gentleman and paying for my coffee?"
I look over and she's handing the cashier her credit card.
So she gave me the perfect reason to dump her, again, just when I was planning to do it. And before I dumped her, I just wanted to tell her how rude it was for her to say that to me, and how I was going to pay for her coffee but she screwed it all up. And her reaction was predictable. Somehow she got it in her head that I was belittling her and talking down to her, making her feel inferior. She wanted to know where my thick skin was.

This is exactly what I am fed up with. It's like a disease among women these days. No accountability, just blame shifting and victimizing themselves instead. I mean it really blows my mind. And I just straight up told her this. And then she goes from tears to anger, instantly. I I hadn't even dumped her yer. She snaps at me and says, "do not compare me to other women. I hate other women. Women are entitled jealous b1tches. I am not like that. I am not the women from your past".
And I just laughed in disbelief. I said actually you ARE an entitled b1tch, which is why you publically insulted me, demanding that I buy you something simply because i have a penis and you have a vagina. And by the way, as of now, you are a woman from my past. It's over. I actually feel sorry for you. You are completely clueless as to why you can't keep a man. Maybe listen to what I have told you this week and you'll learn something."

Oh and then I got the standard line: you are just like all the other men, treating me like a sexual object and throwing me away. I am just a victim of culture". She actually said that about being a victim of culture.

My mind is still blown. This culture is seriously f'd up. Something is wrong.

Jesus God these girls have NO shame no self respect no sense.

They just get worse and worse.

 

[guru1000]

Jesus God these girls have NO shame no self respect no sense.

They just get worse and worse.

The problem is your inability to NEXT women. I see these red flags within a few dates and give her the boot pronto. No contemplation. No negotiations. No second guessing. Just a clean, wooden boot out of there.

You men need to stop pointing toward these women when YOU were the ones accepting of such garbage, while turning a blind eye to the glaring red flags.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The problem is your inability to NEXT women. I see these red flags within a few dates.

I have to call bullsh!t on the underlined part, my friend. You see it a lot faster than that, and so do I. I see it in the first few dating site messages, texts, and if it goes as far as one date before me seeing her true character, then I feel like my intuition failed me.

 

[exhausted]

I agree with your reaction with what happened in your situation. With kinds of generosity - it's suppose to be allowed to be given, rather than demanded or expected. It's even ruder when someone highlights it as an accusatory expectation. Kind of them saying "What is wrong with you??" It speaks of childishness and inability to restrain themselves to me. Generosity is supposed to be spontaneous and pleasant as well... never an expectation of the other person.

The other thing - ""that is so sexy, maybe i should go find a german guy, they are so hot". - I couldn't imagine saying to a chick I'm 10 seconds away from banging "Yeah I should find an Asian girl, man they are hot", and expect everything to be hunky dory.

It's a bunch of bull****. And most people are smart enough to realize saying **** like that is going to piss off your partner. You did good in handling this, imo.

@SkrooU you have officially escaped a nut job.

I was thinking it's more a relax & enjoy the art of banter but you then clarified that her behavior is a disrespectful pattern & was getting old, which I agree you shouldn't tolerate.

You broke up with her yesterday and today she wants to have your baby? That's a bit off in my book...not normal.

Bpd

 

[exhausted]

The problem is your inability to NEXT women. I see these red flags within a few dates and give her the boot pronto. No contemplation. No negotiations. No second guessing. Just a clean, wooden boot out of there.

You men need to stop pointing toward these women when YOU were the ones accepting of such garbage, while turning a blind eye to the glaring red flags.

Agreed to an extent.
Some hide it for months or a year but still what is unnacceptabe is unacceptable.

I jumped on bumble btw. 5 women in one day initiating conversations.

 

[SkrooU]

I have to call bullsh!t on the underlined part, my friend. You see it a lot faster than that, and so do I. I see it in the first few dating site messages, texts, and if it goes as far as one date before me seeing her true character, then I feel like my intuition failed me.

I usually see it on the first date within 10 minutes. If you ask the right questions. This is why it's important to let her do the talking. The more talking you do, the more info you give her to put on an act. I'm usually calling them out on their crap on the first date and walking out.
But sometimes, I think, a few have just learned how to hide this for a while. This one was very pleasant until I agreed to be exclusive. It was like instaneous. I am looking back on things right now and honestly cannot think of any red flags.
Then there are a few that gave me red flags and I just knowingly ignored them because I just wanted to keep seeing them anyway, knowing they had an expiration.
I think it's the overall pattern of not holding themselves accountable that I am fed up with. Even women who aren't whack jobs are highly prone to this behavior. The ones who haven't been have just lacked something else to keep me around. I am starting to realize it's the key trait of a quality woman - being able to hold herself accountable.