Your thoughts on this please

[Johnsmith8899]

The game is fun and everything especially when your hooking hot women and sleeping with them non stop... but my question is... at what point with a woman can u just lay back and trust her and commit to a healthy loving lasting relationship?

 

[marmel75]

The game is fun and everything especially when your hooking hot women and sleeping with them non stop... but my question is... at what point with a woman can u just lay back and trust her and commit to a healthy loving lasting relationship?

Unless you are in a fairy tale, NEVER.

Stop believing what you see in Disney movies.

 

[wifehunter]

The game is fun and everything especially when your hooking hot women and sleeping with them non stop... but my question is... at what point with a woman can u just lay back and trust her and commit to a healthy loving lasting relationship?

You must be joking. ..manwh0res don't commit!!! lolz!!!

 

[El Payaso]

but my question is... at what point with a woman can u just lay back and trust her and commit to a healthy loving lasting relationship?

Lol. Good one. You should think of being a comedian.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

at what point with a woman can u just lay back and trust her and commit to a healthy loving lasting relationship?

OK. Let's look at the exact terminology you're employing here.....

lay back and trust her
My friend, one simply doesn't 'lay back and trust' people. Not even necessarily your own blood family, in some cases. Time and life change people. Women especially fluctuate weekly, almost daily with their world views, emotions, needs and desires. If you think even after 20 years of marriage you can relax and 'trust' a person not to necessarily turn round and sh!t all over that relationship, you're living in fantasy land. The only way you will ever guarantee it is if you date / marry a 3/10.

healthy loving lasting
I've just spat my coffee out reading your other thread about jumping in to an 'exclusive' relationship with cruise ship girl..... my man, you clearly understand nothing about relationships outside of romantic comedies and cartoon fairy tales.

If you really want 'healthy, loving and lasting', you really need to do a whole bunch of research and field testing to gain an understanding of what those things actually mean in the real world. In your particular case, I think you're going to be looking at a couple of years of development, opposed to weeks and months if this is really what you're aspiring to in the long term.

I am one here who still believes that committed long term relationships are still possible. However, I have also concluded that there is a very deliberate and steadfast process that a man need to go through in order to realise that objective. The essential, and I mean essential steps are as follows:

Number One
Learn how to be more rational and less emotional in your decision-making processes. Learn what it means to be in charge of your own life and relationships and not having to rely on other people and their opinions of you for your self worth.

Pre-Screening
-Before you even start, determine and understand what your personal standards are as far as a woman's behaviour are concerned. Do you accept her talking to other men? Do you tolerate lateness? Can you put up with a girl who is untidy or has tattoos. Will you get nervous if she goes out drinking with her girlfriends?

Screening
-A period of AT LEAST six months where by you are banging / dating a girl and you are monitoring her behaviour against the standards you derived in pre-screening.

Spinning plates
-Plate spinning, long and short, in this context, is a process of screening multiple women at once. As far as having girlfriends go at this stage, one is too close to none.

Women must initiate the exclusivity conversation, not men
-You can do a bit of homework for yourself as to why this is the case.

Monitoring
-Just because you are 'exclusive', doesn't necessarily mean are going to live happily ever after. Not to Your girlfriend or wife anyway. This is where we return to the conversation about trust. She must keep adhering to your standards, just as in the screening phase.
-The easiest way to maintain a woman's interest is to understand her needs and make sure she is investing in yours. Keep dating your woman / women, forever. And treat each date as a first date.

 

[resilient]

Completely letting yourself go in a marriage is disastrous as well. Better to learn that lesson now before (if you eventually marry). When you marry, as you should be well aware, you have much much more to risk financially from the wifey losing interest with more of your assets tied up in a legal contract.

 

[That_dude]

Completely letting yourself go in a marriage is disastrous as well. Better to learn that lesson now before (if you eventually marry). When you marry, as you should be well aware, you have much much more to risk financially from the wifey losing interest with more of your assets tied up in a legal contract.

Agreed

 

[Johnsmith8899]

It’s almost like the anxiety of “falling in love” is just not worth it.

Anytime a chick senses any emotion from the man it’s like they pullback and go away which is completely contradicting to what they seem to want.

Very odd

 

[The Duke]

You can lay back maybe 10-15% but no more and only some of the time. I don't advise resting. These biatches have way too many options/orbiters these days and their own money. You have to constantly be "pimpin" the relationship.

Hell I don't even think I believe in healthy, long lasting relationships anymore.

The less the difference in SMV, the more of a risk it is.

 

[Johnsmith8899]

It sounds like most of the players on here have a deep fear of rejection of what they believe and think.
What if being totally true to yourself and expressing what you feel at any time regardless of the outcome is a better method. I honestly think that’s prob better as long as u can get comfortable with it and not be outcome dependent...

 

[Johnsmith8899]

Like for instance if u know ur swag is good and the girl is completely sold on u why u even worried about orbiters and ****- who cares

 

[QuadDeuces]

A girl wants to feel wanted. A girl hates to be needed.

So when she is around make her feel wanted, ravish her sexually, passionately, invite her into your life, be generous, be courteous, make her feel good.
But when she is not around or withdraws, you let her go without chasing her.

 

[Glassguy]

As long as you are putting yourself first and foremost, it doesnt really matter.

Actions > Words

You can tell her whatever she wants to hear. What you do should be based with your best interests in mind.

I dont think it is a sin to trust someone as long as they have given you no reason to feel differently. Its when they have given you a reason to suspect that trust is gone, and you fail to walk away that the problems start because at that point you're not putting yourself first anymore.

 

[The Duke]

It sounds like most of the players on here have a deep fear of rejection of what they believe and think.
What if being totally true to yourself and expressing what you feel at any time regardless of the outcome is a better method. I honestly think that’s prob better as long as u can get comfortable with it and not be outcome dependent...

Because women are not men. They don't operate on respect, honor, loyalty, honesty, directness. Those are true male traits. Not female traits.

If there was ever a guy that had to learn this the hard way its me. I used to do what you are talking about but I've learned that I am more successful when I don't express myself 100%. Society really doesn't care what you think or feel or what ideas you have. They just want to be heard.

I have a ton of confidence, highly secure, accomplished, call people out on their bullschitt, have high standards, not a follower, don't care much what people think, not afraid to go alone, speak the truth, blaze my own trails, and don't take rejection personally. And these traits cause me problems with women and in corporate America(which is full of candy ass mangina's that live in constant fear) because I end up offending people and hurting their precious snowflake feelings. I have to put a restrictor plate on the real HOWIESTERN if I want to be successful. The old saying "You catch more flies with honey." is why your idea doesn't work.

Women are equivalent to small children and puppies. Treat them as such.

 

[Johnsmith8899]

Because women are not men. They don't operate on respect, honor, loyalty, honesty, directness. Those are true male traits. Not female traits.

If there was ever a guy that had to learn this the hard way its me. I used to do what you are talking about but I've learned that I am more successful when I don't express myself 100%. Society really doesn't care what you think or feel or what ideas you have. They just want to be heard.

I have a ton of confidence, highly secure, accomplished, call people out on their bullschitt, have high standards, not a follower, don't care much what people think, not afraid to go alone, speak the truth, blaze my own trails, and don't take rejection personally. And these traits cause me problems with women and in corporate America(which is full of candy ass mangina's that live in constant fear) because I end up offending people and hurting their precious snowflake feelings. I have to put a restrictor plate on the real HOWIESTERN if I want to be successful. The old saying "You catch more flies with honey." is why your idea doesn't work.

Women are equivalent to small children and puppies. Treat them as such.

I actually have advice for you. It sounds like u are an entrepreneur at heart and also posses qualities if u were the true howiestern and removed the bull**** restrictions on yourself you can make yourself a rich man in wealth and with a woman. I’m sure you do well but once u unleash what’s even stronger within.

 

[Johnsmith8899]

I actually have advice for you. It sounds like u are an entrepreneur at heart and also posses qualities if u were the true howiestern and removed the bull**** restrictions on yourself you can make yourself a rich man in wealth and with a woman. I’m sure you do well but once u unleash what’s even stronger within.

Then u can double your profits

I actually have advice for you. It sounds like u are an entrepreneur at heart and also posses qualities if u were the true howiestern and removed the bull**** restrictions on yourself you can make yourself a rich man in wealth and with a woman. I’m sure you do well but once u unleash what’s even stronger within you can double what life has to offer. It’s whats on the other side of fear is where the true fruit of life is.

 

[The Duke]

I actually have advice for you. It sounds like u are an entrepreneur at heart and also posses qualities if u were the true howiestern and removed the bull**** restrictions on yourself you can make yourself a rich man in wealth and with a woman. I’m sure you do well but once u unleash what’s even stronger within.

Thank you for recognizing, It helps reiterate to myself what i need to do. I have done personality tests that said the same thing. I have a side hobby thats more like a second job where I compete on a semi-pro level that harnesses that desire to do my own thing and that's what has helped me survive corporate America for 20yrs. I'm also working on an exit plan out of corporate America to take over operations for my dad that involve commercial property where I can do entrepreneurial things.

 

[devilkingx2]

The game is fun and everything especially when your hooking hot women and sleeping with them non stop... but my question is... at what point with a woman can u just lay back and trust her and commit to a healthy loving lasting relationship?

you let your guard down when you're sure that she isn't going to stab you in the back the second you turn around, but that means sheath your sword, not leave it at home

 

[RangerMIke]

The game is fun and everything especially when your hooking hot women and sleeping with them non stop... but my question is... at what point with a woman can u just lay back and trust her and commit to a healthy loving lasting relationship?

Never. You can never be complacent... until she hits the wall, then maybe you can relax a bit... but then you are with a chick no one else wants.

 

[Roober]

As long as you are putting yourself first and foremost, it doesnt really matter.

Actions > Words

You can tell her whatever she wants to hear. What you do should be based with your best interests in mind.

I dont think it is a sin to trust someone as long as they have given you no reason to feel differently. Its when they have given you a reason to suspect that trust is gone, and you fail to walk away that the problems start because at that point you're not putting yourself first anymore.

This is good right here, with the exception of "telling her what she wants to hear". Not sure I agree with that.

Live with an open heart, even if it hurts!

If you just want to smash lots of women, disregard the statement above