BPD GIRL CUT ME OFF / MET ANOTHER BPD / GENERAL SADNESS

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Whist I do realise long term, even short term this will go nowhere, is there anything I could do now to seem more attractive to her ? There seems to be the pattern of her sending a nice message or 2, then disappearing for a couple of days or becoming distant and so on. Obviously we've only been back in vague contact for 6 days and I do appreciate the groups advice, just in the short run I'd like to somehow have a better effect if at all possible. As right now there's very little else going on in my love life

More attractive to her? I am beginning to think you are a TROLL.

Why do you want to be more attractive to this suicidal crazy, unstable woman?

Is this the best you can do? Seriously man, there is no helping you.

She maybe genuine in her need for you, and all her problems.. But why do you even want such a broken person.

She is a mess, how can she bring any value to your life, when she is damaged to the core?
 
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More attractive to her? I am beginning to think you are a TROLL.

Why do you want to be more attractive to this suicidal crazy, unstable woman?

Is this the best you can do? Seriously man, there is no helping you.

She maybe genuine in her need for you, and all her problems.. But why do you even want such broken person.
I guess I feel a vague degree of closure, in the sense that I know what she is, I know I can't ever "have her" and she'll never be a reasonable person. But she is still someone I find absurdly attractive, she lives 5 minutes away and generally I miss her, however whenever she reaches out, I seem to put her off almost instantly. I'm not looking to save her, or fix her problems as I realise they're unfixable. I'd just like to have a less negative effect, it's almost as if I bore her instantly when she reaches out. I guess this thread has served it's purpose. A lot of things have been cleared up for me, and I'm grateful.
 

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I guess I feel a vague degree of closure, in the sense that I know what she is, I know I can't ever "have her" and she'll never be a reasonable person. But she is still someone I find absurdly attractive, she lives 5 minutes away and generally I miss her, however whenever she reaches out, I seem to put her off almost instantly. I'm not looking to save her, or fix her problems as I realise they're unfixable. I'd just like to have a less negative effect, it's almost as if I bore her instantly when she reaches out. I guess this thread has served it's purpose. A lot of things have been cleared up for me, and I'm grateful.
You don't want to bore her? I have a solution for you.. Cut all contact NOW.. Problem solved.. You will not bore her any longer.

Is this person doing your self esteem any good? NO

Is she bringing any value to your life? NO

Is she short term or long term relationship worthy? NO

Why don't you text a girl, who actually appreciates communication with you.. And does not find you boring!
 

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I'm sorry to hear that you suffered a lot of stress and pain from a bpd woman.

It's truly not her fault though, remember that she did warn you, and even told you to Google her disorder. You chose to continue, knowing full well the trouble that would ensue.

With crazy girls, you need to get burned at least once to learn your lesson. That's the general rule for all guys. The allure of these women's physical attraction and uniqueness tends to overshadow their horrible craziness in the eyes of the naive male.

After I dated one of these girls, anything that indicates craziness I will distance from. Unstableness, self harm, medication, trauma etc are red flags. Sounds harsh but most guys who have gone through the hell that these type of girls bring will agree.

Btw, why you have no friends? You can have a few distant friends that you occasionally see, instead of a tight intimate group of friends. That's if you like it that way. The point is at least have some people that you can shoot a text to every now and then. Loneliness isn't good for you man, and this is coming from a guy who is a bit of a lone wolf too.
 

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Men that was a read. I was clueless too at 21. messed up like you. talked my myself out of scoring with many girls.
trying to lock chick down too soon
(They (Females) should be the one doing that not You)
If they are chasing you They are not dumping You

Time to increase your social circle and get some wingmen and if you are not looking for a girl friend then some chick on your dating rosters
1. Get on Tinder , POF and all the other dating apps
2. Hit the local bars or clubs
3. Set a goal to date 2 or more girls a month to get the one ities out of your system

Bro you need to get out of the Beta Male Mentality
,

Beta Male Flag 1 you trying to lock a chick down only after 1 date or after sex with her (Hell No)
you barley even know this chick , plus she is single and have other guys on her roster
This chick should be a FWB (friend with Benefit) until she want to be exclusive with you and you are kool with that

Beta Male Flag 2,
flowers, perfume, and tea outside her door (Hell No)
If she is not your official Girl Friend or Wife don't give gifts to chicks you are dating
If you give them to your GF or Wife they should be a surprise

Beta Male Flag 3
chatted on the phone almost every day, for hours
The phone is for setting dates not being her BFF. keep the talk time under 10 minutes
Save all the talking for when you are with her in real life and Hang out, Have Fun and Hook UP
****Only call her once a week*******


Beta Male Flag 4 the sex and general affection dried up a bit but we were cool
She lost interest in you (Sexually) and was banging her other guys
This was the time to reduce the amount of time you spent with her. Spent that time with you new chick or chicks


Beta Male Flag 5 Don't argue with women - you will never win
James Bond never loses his cool. So should you
 
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I just got back from my dad's this evening, Going to try to make this a good week, the past few days were fairly profitable online poker wise haven't had the opportunity to play any live. Tomorrow i'll get up earlyish and go to the gym, try to cook something then I have an appointment with a therapist tomorrow at 3pm to discuss my trichotillomania (hair pulling) and other issues, Then meeting original Borderline in the evening. Hope it's a good day.
 

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Figured you'd keep going for her. Most need to be burned a lot before the survival instincts kick in for good... that ever lasting rationalization that something can work out with her... before it finally clicks for real.

Keep safe. If you start feeling erratic, out of control emotionally or suicidal, remember that this is literally the effects of getting wrapped up with a BPD. If the hair pulling wasn't already an additional sign... Not kidding about watching your feelings on this.
 

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I made a very similar post to this 3 months ago whilst the relationship was still ongoing, I should've taken this forums advice but I wanted to make this an update.

MY BORDERLINE STORY:

There's no real way to keep this short but I shall try, I am a 22 year old professional poker player who lives at home currently. I am a loner, when people say they have no friends they're often joking, I am not. However Late last year the most beautiful girl I'd ever met added me on FB (My borderline) We spoke casually but nothing ever happened until one friday night in March I went into a bar with my parents and saw her working there, we hit it off right away.

It later turned out she was in a relationship with someone i used to know but that doesnt matter so much as they broke up. The next month I passed my driving test, bought a car and asked if I could pick her up from work. I'm pretty nervous around girls so I didnt know what to expect but I could tell she was keen right away as she performed oral in a car park almost right away, great I thought! Anyway she seems to vanish, tells me to give her some space after I leave flowers, perfume, and tea outside her door (Her favourite things which I knew she'd like) She later got back in contact, explained she had BPD told me to google it a bit and decide if i still wanted to know her, of course I did!

After this we become very close friends and chatted on the phone almost every day, for hours. I went away with my father and upon my return we promptly slept together, it was amazing, like nothing id experienced with anyone else before. We even made a videotogether which I regret and will mention later. The next day I take her to get the morning after pill and we go to the gym together. I notice she gets a text saying "Hey you still coming over friday" I casually ask her about it as I figure I cant get too mad seeing as she is just still my friend kinda. She explains it's just a friend from work who she agreed to have a drink with. It turns out to be a male friend from work who she spent the night with, swore on her life nothing happened with, and then later admitted to sleeping with, great.

Things still carried on between us for a couple of months, the sex and general affection dried up a bit but we were cool. I would take her to work whenever she needed a lift in, and pick her up whenever she asked which would usually be around midnight but I didnt mind. I was just grateful to see her even if it was just for 20 minutes in the car. One day I'm particularly not proud of is we were out shopping and she saw an expensive lipstick she wanted, she convinced me to buy it for her promising to do whatever I wanted later if I got her that and some office supply stuff she needed, a little weird and not my style but I was so desperate for her I agreed. Later that evening we were driving back to my place from dinner and just as we're arriving in my town she says "I've changed my mind, take me home'
I of course get very annoyed having wasted my whole day but I do agree, she senses my anger and start to go nuts, when we arrive at her place she tells me she could easily ruin my life etc. I drive off home and text her saying "I could ruin your life far easier" Referring to all the personal details I know about her and of course the erotic video we made together, disgraceful I know but i was just so angry and she'd pushed me for weeks.

Anyway she calls me crying begging to come and pick her up so we can chat, we end up going back to mine sleeping together and things seem fine. The next day I go to a friends for a few days and she contacts me saying she needs the video deleted. I agree we meet up she goes through my phone deletes it + our text convo and things are peaceful for a while. She regularly seems to see other people though and it hurts non stop. Fast forward a month and a few small dramas and things seem to of fizzled so i ask her for my things back, just a few personal items she's kept of mine and she agrees. However she puts it off for days almost mockingly so I sent a threatening message saying "Look I didnt delete anything, please give me my things back and we wont have a problem" I know this is awful but I was just so done and angry. The next day we meet outside her place, she has my things in a black bag, she explains she's going to the police etc and to take my things back, I apologise for what I've said and leave it at that, we have maybe one more phone call but that's it.

She does not block my number though or any form social media so I still kept track of her, I missed her terribly and didn't know what to do. Then it hit me, i remembered she had a BPD friend who lived fairly locally who she often spoke about and sort of seemed to be in competition with. Anyway I contact the friend via instagram, we chat speak on the phone etc and seem to get on really well so we agree to meet for a drink. When we do the girl tells me she is going away to university in a week, but we still take a picture together which we uploads to Insta/FB. A day later I hear from my borderline, she calls me sick, warns her friend to stay away from me etc but it got us talking. For some reason she was now very responsive to me after not speaking for weeks. The other Borderline who I just met the once has now gone to university roughly 5 hours away but we still speak daily.

Anyway I suggest to my original borderline that we go for dinner together as friends, to chat about things and she agrees in a gleeful way. anyway we end up consuming a bottle of wine each, and we're in the car crying together and we end up going back to my place. we just hang out in the garden smoking weed and this is all slightly blurry to me but we ended up having sex, she was super into it until the last idk 5 seconds? where she tried to get up just as I was climaxing and I told her to relax etc. My bad but i was stoned/drunk/very emotional. As we drive home I notice she's texting some dude with tons of kisses/emojis, sad considering i was inside her 3 minutes prior anyway. The next day I take her to get the pill, and she's cool however she does not reply to my texts. My parents figured out we were cool and were happy they could return to their favourite bar so I joined them, my borderline was very rude and cold that night so the next day i rang her to question it. She tells me i took advantage of her, tricked her etc which isnt true but she said we were cool and could chat more later.

I send her a couple of long messages saying she's intimidating and wrong about what she said but I love her and know the real her etc. In the meantime I had been complaining to the other BPD about her as I felt she wad the only one i could talk to who'd understand so maybe she said something to her but the next day I WAS BLOCKED ON EVERYTHING. Phone,insta,fb,snapchat. I tried messaging her from my other fb but she blocked that too, ringing from another phone but she just hung up. WHAT CAN I DO? It's been a full 2 weeks now and id pay anything just to talk to her for 5 minutes. I love her madly, and miss her more than anything. Why would she block me ? I need answers. She's been the only person I speak to/my only focus for about 5-6 months. I know she wasnt my girlfriend and I know i did bad things, I have also been spending the last week at my father's and my mother called me a few days ago to say the police have been round and wanted to speak with me. She gave them my number however I habe not heard from them and it's been almost a week. I know this must be from her as I've barely left the house all month nevermind broken the law. This upsets me so much as it means our chances of speaking again are even lower. I'm tempted now she has had 2 weeks to cool off to maybe go to her house with flowers ? or something along those lines ? I cant take not speaking to her, I just want to hear from her why she's done this now, why not a month ago? why not when she saw the pic of me with the other borderline? Why go out with me, sleep with me, then a few days block me / report me for something that has not been an issue. I'm so confused

Men, this one is so hard to swallow.

You can't totally blame it all to her, you also have mistakes that you should stop doing right now.

But I think it may be a little bit of to late for you because you are really into her.

And that is the hardest part, you are now tide up with her emotions.

This what we call:

"She is now the remote control of your emotions"

and probably your life :(

If she feels bad without any gotdamn reason, you also feel bad.

If she is happy, because her mood was great that morning then you are also happy.

But in the evening when she feels bored and starts to feel bad, then you also feel bad.


Do want this to continue?

I am going to be hard on you so that you'll wake up a little bit.

You don't even have a clear goal for this chick and shiite.
 
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Figured you'd keep going for her. Most need to be burned a lot before the survival instincts kick in for good... that ever lasting rationalization that something can work out with her... before it finally clicks for real.

Keep safe. If you start feeling erratic, out of control emotionally or suicidal, remember that this is literally the effects of getting wrapped up with a BPD. If the hair pulling wasn't already an additional sign... Not kidding about watching your feelings on this.
Agree with this. Im not going to point the finger because I've been there but if you absolutely are set on continuing make the most of the time you arent in contact with her. Look after yourself, eat well, sleep, excercise, meditate if you can. It'll offset some of the damage.
 

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We went out tonight, she was charming at first we just went to eat. Then she wanted to go out for some drinks which we did, she said she wanted to sleep with me that night was dying to leave etc, then all of a sudden put her head in hands. Said the alchohol wasn't mixing well with the anti depressants she'd been taking so after chatting for a bit I had to take her home. She became argumentive though, saying things like "I know I've disappointed you, just say it go on" non stop to the point where I did become very irritated then she'd say "I knew it" etc. Unpleasant tbh
 

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After this thread does her 180 surprise you ? She got what she wanted, you got nothing but her dinner and drinking company and No lay.
Sound like a great deal to you?
 
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After this thread does her 180 surprise you ? She got what she wanted, you got nothing but her dinner and drinking company and No lay.
Sound like a great deal to you?

I can honestly say I wasn't trying to sleep with her tonight, she suddenly was super keen too. Then become sick from her tablets, then felt better but got upset etc idk. I mean I wasn't expecting anything the whole instigating it then switching so quickly just bothered me but maybe it was the tablets. She said I was the last person she's had sex with and the way she explained it seemed believable.
 

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Keep making excuses for her until you realize you’re getting treated like dog sh|t dude…
 

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Keep making excuses for her until you realize you’re getting treated like dog sh|t dude…
I feel that way. I feel like my behaviour wasn't unreasonable tonight, but I was made to feel like it was. Idk **** it
 

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I might be being childish, she has only been on her anti depressants for 3 weeks and hadent mixed alcohol before nevermind a whole bottle of wine so I guess it's reasonable
 

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I just mean, it's not the most absurdly unreasonable thing to randomly feel sick and have a huge mood switch when mixing alchohol with anti depressants for the first time
 

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I just mean, it's not the most absurdly unreasonable thing to randomly feel sick and have a huge mood switch when mixing alchohol with anti depressants for the first time
So now what? what's your next goal for her?
 

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Not sure what your fascination is with this girl you should be run Forest run, she can't be drinking alcohol when she's on meds it will really screw her up.
 

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I really think the meds might've played a big roll as she drank prob the equiv to a bottle of wine and has only been on the meds for a few weeks. Just going to play it by ear I guess
 
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