Acted needy/emotional last couple weeks - is this fixable?

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Pretty standard story – met girl, moved too quickly. I’m 30 and she’s 23…we met on new years this year and instantly hit it off. It turns out her mom lived on the same street as my office so before I knew it, I was picking her up on the way home to play house almost everyday and dropping her back home when I went to work.

3 months in, we exchanged I love yous By month 5, I decided to give her a key in my building and the extra parking spot followed by going on a trip to the Bahamas (we both paid for ourselves). By month 6, I realized we had barely had a single disagreement seeing each other since we met and this is a loving and caring person I’d consider as a long-term partner

Then 3 weeks ago I went to Miami for a bachelor party and it all went to ****.

We had gotten into a minor fight before I left about some of the “party favors” me and the boys would indulge in on special occasions when partying – and I had previously agreed I wouldn’t do it anymore (I was looking to cut that out of my life anyway) but she seemed to have a hard time believing I wouldn’t indulge on a major Miami trip with a bunch of my closest friends.

On the second night, we end up face timing (huge mistake and I am absolutely hammered) and she gets mad and accuses me of lying to her about what state I’m in (even though I didn’t do anything wrong). Eventually she gets annoyed, tells me we’ll talk about this later and to go have fun. What do I do like an idiot? Call her a million times drunkily trying to convince her I didn’t do what she thought I was doing. This, of course, ultimately annoys her more and we stop talking until I get back.

When I’m back, there is a different aura – she is cooking less, she is still around all the time but slightly distant…sex is still OK but definitely less affectionate than before I left. What do I do? Act needy, make things worse by asking what’s wrong and end up trying to confront her about it at her friend’s party. (this past Friday) to which we both ended up getting mad and I left. She’s been around my place since but things have been ****tier than ever.

I know what I did wrong and I know she definitely lost interest/attraction over the last 3 weeks – mostly because I was needy with my eagerness to fix our fight on the spot and because I couldn’t control my emotions. I get these are repulsive qualities to women and before this month, even with how quickly things had moved, I hadn’t acted like this which is probably why there were no issues.

The question as always in these kind of questions/threads – can this be fixed or is it time to cut losses? It’s only been a couple weeks of bickering but I get attraction can get killed fast. Part of me wants to work it out but part of me is feeling things will never be the same again.

My strategy: I’m starting to accept this may end in my head and use it as a lesson for next time a girl I really like comes into my life. I’m going to let her contact me, and when we’re together, act like I did when things were carefree and less emotional like when we first met (I did this last night and it seems to have worked positively)

Appreciate any thoughts, tip or advice to get the spark back and rectify myself for acting like a goof who can’t control their emotions.

Cheers.
 

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Go ghost a couple days, see if she starts blowing up your phone.
If not its over and will never be restored back to the way it was.

If so then just tell her you needed space & see how her behavior is.
 

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First things first... do not divulge what you do on Bachelor parties, at least not the specifics...

Next steps... and I will preface with saying... it may already be too late...
1. Initiate contact less than her - I would say aim for 2 to every one of her 3.
2. Show her your love - this can be done in so many different ways. Basically, when you are with her, pick her up, love her, etc. Do not smother her, but let her feel your presence as a man...
3. Do NOT ask "what's wrong?" or "express your emotions" unless she asks... play with her... If she looks upset, pinch her butt. You have to remain completely unfazed by her emotions.
4. If she talks, you listen! nothing more... do not offer solutions, just listen...

If she won't actually talk to you about issues and work it out, she is not worth your time... only time will tell if that happens... In the meantime, have fun with her and enjoy your life...
 

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First things first... do not divulge what you do on Bachelor parties, at least not the specifics...

Next steps... and I will preface with saying... it may already be too late...
1. Initiate contact less than her - I would say aim for 2 to every one of her 3.
2. Show her your love - this can be done in so many different ways. Basically, when you are with her, pick her up, love her, etc. Do not smother her, but let her feel your presence as a man...
3. Do NOT ask "what's wrong?" or "express your emotions" unless she asks... play with her... If she looks upset, pinch her butt. You have to remain completely unfazed by her emotions.
4. If she talks, you listen! nothing more... do not offer solutions, just listen...

If she won't actually talk to you about issues and work it out, she is not worth your time... only time will tell if that happens... In the meantime, have fun with her and enjoy your life...
This is exactly how I've been acting and she seems to be slowly warming up to me (pet names are slowly making their way back in after the blow out Friday) I've been initiating less (and noticed she starts texting more when this happens) and just being my normal self when I am with her.

My logic is, I've been kind of a wet blanket wanting to "talk things out" and "fix things"...she's presented the issues she has with me (she says I drink too much when I'm out with my friends + I'm not as close with her best friends - who are couples - as she'd like) but I ultimately think those are excuses because neither truly affect our relationship - and I've seen what girls will put up with when truly engaged with their man - they put up with everything. I'm thinking if I play the next few weeks cool and stop making our time together dwelling over the unpleasantness of the last month, the happy dynamic will be the new norm again and take over.

BTW he has never said she wants to break up, take a break etc....she just gets pissy....but again, I know this is how it starts and want to nip this in the butt by acting properly before it's too late.
 

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First things first... do not divulge what you do on Bachelor parties, at least not the specifics...

Next steps... and I will preface with saying... it may already be too late...
1. Initiate contact less than her - I would say aim for 2 to every one of her 3.
2. Show her your love - this can be done in so many different ways. Basically, when you are with her, pick her up, love her, etc. Do not smother her, but let her feel your presence as a man...
3. Do NOT ask "what's wrong?" or "express your emotions" unless she asks... play with her... If she looks upset, pinch her butt. You have to remain completely unfazed by her emotions.
4. If she talks, you listen! nothing more... do not offer solutions, just listen...

If she won't actually talk to you about issues and work it out, she is not worth your time... only time will tell if that happens... In the meantime, have fun with her and enjoy your life...
His advice was better than mine tbh.. I guess I don't have patience anymore and my answer to everything is just go ghost..
 

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His advice was better than mine tbh.. I guess I don't have patience anymore and my answer to everything is just go ghost..
I think the hardest part to swallow is that a lot of this is my fault. My drinking can be a problem - Ive had issues with others and is definitely something i need to fix for myself. I don't act clear and level headed when I'm drunk nor do I like who i am - would kill me if i lost her because of this....though at the end of the day, i still think the issue is loss of attraction/routine as we all know that one drunk or junkie who has a gf of years who caters to him regardless of his flaws...then again, everyone is different
 

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Take it from me man, you're doing everything great. To piggy back on what Roober said, don't try to "fix" things. Just be playful and fun with her, and eventually she will open up, and when she does, just shut up and listen. You'll get to a point where she might finally say something like "I feel better now," with a sigh of relief. After that, f*ck her brains out and everything will be good.
 

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I like Roober's post as well. You lead her by being playful, dont bring it up, lead her out of her funk.

If she starts holding this over your head or bringing it up, you simply say "My drinking can be a problem, but I will make sure that doesnt happen again.".

If she continues to hammer you with it, then tell her that you've apologized and nothing more you can do, and that you need a few days of space to think things through and ghost her for a few days.

She might think things arent great now and a few days in timeout may wake her up. Its the last option though.
 

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I like Roober's post as well. You lead her by being playful, dont bring it up, lead her out of her funk.

If she starts holding this over your head or bringing it up, you simply say "My drinking can be a problem, but I will make sure that doesnt happen again.".

If she continues to hammer you with it, then tell her that you've apologized and nothing more you can do, and that you need a few days of space to think things through and ghost her for a few days.

She might think things arent great now and a few days in timeout may wake her up. Its the last option though.
I like this and agree. I admitted to her drinking has been an issue and something I am trying to work on. I've been talking about quitting for the last year or two even before meeting her as it hasn't done anything positive in my life.

The thing is, she tells me she loves everything about me but this and I know that we don't have too many issues without it. she has openly told me she loves me sober and cant stand the person I am when I drink. I already apologized....if she doesnt accept it, i think ill take your advice and am pretty confident she'll be back in full
 

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I like Roober's post as well. You lead her by being playful, dont bring it up, lead her out of her funk.

If she starts holding this over your head or bringing it up, you simply say "My drinking can be a problem, but I will make sure that doesnt happen again.".

If she continues to hammer you with it, then tell her that you've apologized and nothing more you can do, and that you need a few days of space to think things through and ghost her for a few days.

She might think things arent great now and a few days in timeout may wake her up. Its the last option though.
Agreed! Mistakes happen, the guy has apologized. This will indicate if she is keeping score or not.

@maxb87 listen dude! She is not actually mad about what she is telling you! You need to figure it out. I am guessing she is questioning your strength with all these emotions... you are... becoing... a woman!

Also, get that drinking under control. If need be, stop altogether...
 

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Agreed! Mistakes happen, the guy has apologized. This will indicate if she is keeping score or not.

@maxb87 listen dude! She is not actually mad about what she is telling you! You need to figure it out. I am guessing she is questioning your strength with all these emotions... you are... becoing... a woman!

Also, get that drinking under control. If need be, stop altogether...
Agreed. The drinking is definitely something i need to fix...it makes me an emotional mess which in turn is very unattractive and I get this.

The whole thing is just new to me. In past relationships, there was red flags/signs earlier on. This is the first time where I can confidently say that the first 6 months were complete bliss, even spending every day together.

I just hope 2 - 3 weeks of acting sloppy can be rectified - i think it can if i stick to my guns and make the future nothing but pleasant.

Thanks for the advice
 

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@maxb87

I can drink 2-6 beers and be fine. I dont need more. It doesnt change my emotions or personality at all. If I drink 10-12+, I might do or say something stupid, therefore I dont do it.

Not being a d!ck, but this chick seems like she is giving you a fair shake. Something tells me your drinking problem is severe and the root of all the other problems you have with her.

This world is full of drunks down on their luck who lost good chicks because they couldnt put the bottle down. Dont be one of those guys.

From her standpoint its first time shame on you, second time shame on me.

She has already given you the first one. Keep doing it and you will be watching someone that you obviously care about walk out. Get yourself together and do whatever it is you need to do so this doesnt keep happening. With her or someone else.
 
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@maxb87

I can drink 2-6 beers and be fine. I dont need more. It doesnt change my emotions or personality at all. If I drink 10-12+, I might do or say something stupid, therefore I dont do it.

Not being a d!ck, but this chick seems like she is giving you a fair shake. Something tells me your drinking problem is severe and the root of all the other problems you have with her.

This world is full of drunks down on their luck who lost good chicks because they couldnt put the bottle down. Dont be one of those guys.

From her standpoint its first time shame on you, second time shame on me.

She has already given you the first one. Keep doing it and you will be watching someone that you obviously care about walk out. Get yourself together and do whatever it is you need to do so this doesnt keep happening. With her or someone else.
This is very true. We've had a few conflicts before this month because of me drinking too much and she pretty much forgave it immediately. I deserve this and need to change but again, the needy behavior needs to go
 

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Update on this: employed evreything in this thread and last night seem better... she came over, cooked, kissed up on me and texted me way more than the last few weeks.

When we were in bed however, I tried to iniciate sex and she shut that down pretty fast. It's been a week and a half since we had sex last and I get we've been pretty much in turmoil over the last couple weeks so for now I'm attributing it to that.

Anyway I didn't let that break me and stuck to the course of action. Asked her when she was finally going to warm back up to me and stuck my hand in between her ass cheeks and she clenched and said she's working on it. Gave her anthoer smack on her bare ass and went to sleep

Think I handled this right ?
 

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If you're serious about curbing your drinking, try to do something about it (for you, not for anyone else).

Let her know you're trying to go through the whole month of September without drinking, or if that's too long, maybe the first two weeks. Pick up a hobby to fill the void - running, drink coffee, painting, anything. The timing will work well with August about to end.

This will be doubly beneficial because you'll be doing something to improve yourself, and she'll likely become more attracted to you without even knowing why. Girls aren't like your bros, they love when you change, especially if she thinks she had something to do with it and creating "the new you".
 

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When we were in bed however, I tried to iniciate sex and she shut that down pretty fast. It's been a week and a half since we had sex last and I get we've been pretty much in turmoil over the last couple weeks so for now I'm attributing it to that.
If she wouldn't have given me sex while I laid next to her,I would have got up and left and went to a plates house,Jesus Christ your needy.....
 

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Update on this: employed evreything in this thread and last night seem better... she came over, cooked, kissed up on me and texted me way more than the last few weeks.

When we were in bed however, I tried to iniciate sex and she shut that down pretty fast. It's been a week and a half since we had sex last and I get we've been pretty much in turmoil over the last couple weeks so for now I'm attributing it to that.

Anyway I didn't let that break me and stuck to the course of action. Asked her when she was finally going to warm back up to me and stuck my hand in between her ass cheeks and she clenched and said she's working on it. Gave her anthoer smack on her bare ass and went to sleep

Think I handled this right ?
Yes. If you were fun and playful about it. She doesn't get to hold this stuff over your head for an extended period of time. Women are the gate keepers to sex and they know it. I'm not really sure what to do when a woman starts saying no... Next time, prime her and sex her before you even get to bed. You should be fvcking before you get in the bedroom.
 

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Pretty standard story – met girl, moved too quickly. I’m 30 and she’s 23…we met on new years this year and instantly hit it off. It turns out her mom lived on the same street as my office so before I knew it, I was picking her up on the way home to play house almost everyday and dropping her back home when I went to work.

3 months in, we exchanged I love yous By month 5, I decided to give her a key in my building and the extra parking spot followed by going on a trip to the Bahamas (we both paid for ourselves). By month 6, I realized we had barely had a single disagreement seeing each other since we met and this is a loving and caring person I’d consider as a long-term partner

Then 3 weeks ago I went to Miami for a bachelor party and it all went to ****.

We had gotten into a minor fight before I left about some of the “party favors” me and the boys would indulge in on special occasions when partying – and I had previously agreed I wouldn’t do it anymore (I was looking to cut that out of my life anyway) but she seemed to have a hard time believing I wouldn’t indulge on a major Miami trip with a bunch of my closest friends.

On the second night, we end up face timing (huge mistake and I am absolutely hammered) and she gets mad and accuses me of lying to her about what state I’m in (even though I didn’t do anything wrong). Eventually she gets annoyed, tells me we’ll talk about this later and to go have fun. What do I do like an idiot? Call her a million times drunkily trying to convince her I didn’t do what she thought I was doing. This, of course, ultimately annoys her more and we stop talking until I get back.

When I’m back, there is a different aura – she is cooking less, she is still around all the time but slightly distant…sex is still OK but definitely less affectionate than before I left. What do I do? Act needy, make things worse by asking what’s wrong and end up trying to confront her about it at her friend’s party. (this past Friday) to which we both ended up getting mad and I left. She’s been around my place since but things have been ****tier than ever.

I know what I did wrong and I know she definitely lost interest/attraction over the last 3 weeks – mostly because I was needy with my eagerness to fix our fight on the spot and because I couldn’t control my emotions. I get these are repulsive qualities to women and before this month, even with how quickly things had moved, I hadn’t acted like this which is probably why there were no issues.

The question as always in these kind of questions/threads – can this be fixed or is it time to cut losses? It’s only been a couple weeks of bickering but I get attraction can get killed fast. Part of me wants to work it out but part of me is feeling things will never be the same again.

My strategy: I’m starting to accept this may end in my head and use it as a lesson for next time a girl I really like comes into my life. I’m going to let her contact me, and when we’re together, act like I did when things were carefree and less emotional like when we first met (I did this last night and it seems to have worked positively)

Appreciate any thoughts, tip or advice to get the spark back and rectify myself for acting like a goof who can’t control their emotions.

Cheers.
Attraction can be killed fast, but it can also be generated instantly.

If you want to revive this I will outline a few things you can do and some corrective behaviors that I'd recommend you incorporate into your personality to replace weak behavior.

Wait for her to hit you up and when she does have her come over ( make her find a way) and cook u dinner.

If she refuses, text her a week later and request the same thing. Rinse and repeat. Eventually she will do it or tell you to fvck off(actually fvck off if tell u to).
If she comes and cooks, show gratitude and fvck her. If she refuses sex, kick her out and hit her up a week later with the same cooking request. If she has sex with you, proceed.

Never pick her up again. You are being taken for granted. Every time she comes over, have her cook, give you a massage, or something else that you want. Rinse and repeat forever. Ask for more and more as time goes by. Ignore the guilt and it'll go away after a day or two.

Corrective behaviors:
If she doesn't answer your calls, try again a week later.

If she responds with no enthusiasm, threaten to drop her off. If she pleads, let her stay ( your discretion). If she's prideful, follow through without emotion.

If she accuses you and you deny, give her one warning and ignore her for a full day (or until she apologizes.) Afterwards, act like nothing happened.
If she tries to argue, cut her off and say you next subject. Keep cutting her off(say "nope" ) and she will get the picture eventually.

Let her hit you up first unless you want something(never want attention, affection, a conversation, etc). If you hit her up, have her do something for u. Doesn't matter how menial it is.

I gain nothing from telling you this. I hope you take this advice. If you choose to, post here often so I can keep you accountable. Good luck
 

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Sometimes when we're having a long conversation with our date (say, during a long drive together) we are going to say the wrong thing, and the conversation will get derailed.

During times when we realize we've slipped up, I've found that if we just say "I had a moment of weakness" it defuses the whole thing.

It reminds me of a scene from High Noon (1951) when the deputy ask Marshall Will Kane "Are you scared?" and he said "I don't know... I guess so". That was a historic moment in cinema, it was the first time the hero ever confessed to feeling fear. It humanized him like nothing else. Use this process to undo your slip ups without becoming apologetic.
 
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