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[Leisuresuitlegend]

POF isn't the only OLD site. In fact.. that is probably the worst TRASH can of a dating site around.

I have friends who met great girls online and I have friends who met TRASH in person and through social circles. Women change you know. I have buddies who married their high school and college sweethearts whom turned out to be TRASH down the road. Cheaters, bitches or both. Never would of known earlier because they were so sweet and classy lol. That's full blown social circle game for you.

The issue with social circle game is it only works ONCE. You date a girl from your social circle and it doesn't work out.. guess what happens? Either you or the girl are forced out of that social circle. People take sides and the social circle splits. I've gone through this already and watched friends go though it too.

There are a few types of women who never use OLD. You have women who are always OUT socializing and collecting orbiters. You have women who are wh0res. And you have women who are never single long enough to go online because they collect orbiters while in a relationship to have men lined up when their currant man goes belly up. There are also those women who never left their home town and have a big enough orbiter base that they never have to go online. And finally you have women who are still dating or married to their high school or college sweetheart (might be good women or might not be). They will end up online soon if there is a divorce though unless they have another man lined up before the break up.

The moral of the story is women who don't use OLD are just better at collecting orbiters. That does not a quality woman make.

If a woman lives in a major city as I do, she is often from somewhere else. She arrives with few or no friends and few or no connections at first. So she might venture online to meet people. Cities are full of transplants, college students and immigrants. A woman who is new in town will either go out a lot to meet people (and collect orbiters) or she will go online.

Maybe things are different out in the country and rural areas, but in the city there is virtually NO difference between the market online and the market in real life. I do OLD, cold approach, after work happy hours, social sports AND just about every way under the sun you can meet women. That's how I know.

Why do you think marriage rates are dropping? OLD or because the overall quality of the market has declined? Think about it.

Not every chick out is looking for orbiters. To dudes like you anyone who uses social media is only using it for dates. People have lives. They cannot entertain everyone under the sun. There at many factors marriage rates drop. It's not simply because chicks are searching for "orbiters". You sound like the type of paranoid dude that would throw a tantrum because some chick had co-workers, family members and social circle dudes they know on FB.

Let me guess. All your friends are the perfect upstanding men and it's all them meanie women's fault. No way in hell could it possibly ever be the dudes fault. No way in hell could any woman ever be loyal let alone give a damn about wasting time on social media looking for "orbiters". Sounds like a coping mechanism you use to justify your own deep insecurities. Keep trying to convince yourself that chicks who use online DATING sites are the same as chicks who don't need to use DATING sites.

Might as well claim chicks in drug rehab, AA, and those committed to mental hospitals are the "same" as chicks who've never had those problems. Please.

 

[Urbanyst]

Not every chick out is looking for orbiters. To dudes like you anyone who uses social media is only using it for dates. People have lives. They cannot entertain everyone under the sun. There at many factors marriage rates drop. It's not simply because chicks are searching for "orbiters". You sound like the type of paranoid dude that would throw a tantrum because some chick had co-workers, family members and social circle dudes they know on FB.

Let me guess. All your friends are the perfect upstanding men and it's all them meanie women's fault. No way in hell could it possibly ever be the dudes fault. No way in hell could any woman ever be loyal let alone give a damn about wasting time on social media looking for "orbiters". Sounds like a coping mechanism you use to justify your own deep insecurities. Keep trying to convince yourself that chicks who use online DATING sites are the same as chicks who don't need to use DATING sites.

Might as well claim chicks in drug rehab, AA, and those committed to mental hospitals are the "same" as chicks who've never had those problems. Please.

No need to go into personal attacks because my experience doesn't match yours lol. Sounds like you are the only insecure one.

Seems you want very BADLY to believe the market is so much better off line than online. Well it ain't. At least not in major cities.

Your viewpoint is straight out of 2007. Time to open your eyes and look around a little.

By the way.. no woman NEEDS to use online dating sites and no man NEEDS to use online dating sites. They are a way to meet people you might otherwise never get to meet.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

No need to go into personal attacks because my experience doesn't match yours lol. Sounds like you are the only insecure one.

Seems you want very BADLY to believe the market is so much better off line than online. Well it ain't. At least not in major cities.

Your viewpoint is straight out of 2007. Time to open your eyes and look around a little.

By the way.. no woman NEEDS to use online dating sites and no man NEEDS to use online dating sites. They are a way to meet people you might otherwise never get to meet.

I don't need to believe it. I know social circle, chicks who don't need to use old are better. I've got far too much experience.

but if you hang out with trash. trash is what you'll get.

to even try to compare chicks using OLD to chicks who don't is ridiculous at best. true there are many chicks out there who are low quality but there are also many out their that are high quality and they aren't using OLD.

you can dismiss it all you like. a chick you meet out ever tells you she's been on pof, match, tinder etc. old she's told you who she is. you'd better listen. that's your major time to smile politely and bounce red flag.

but I get it. thirsty dudes need to justify their own excuses to try to get any Poon they can and take whatever they can get.

 

[guru1000]

Leave Naughty Ninja alone. He still lives with the delusion that there is a special girl--a unicorn--who he will find offline.

NN, you live in NYC, right? When you find this special creature, bring her to Guru, and within three hours I will show you how "special" she truly is.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

Leave Naughty Ninja alone. He still lives with the delusion that there is a special girl--a unicorn--who he will find offline.

NN, you live in NYC, right? When you find this special creature, bring her to Guru, and within three hours I will show you how "special" she truly is.

I'll do my best son. then again you ran for the hills when dynamically wanted to meet you. did you file a lawsuit against him? lmaooo

 

[Solomon]

This theory has been floating around here for a long time. This idea that you get better quality through social circle game. Might of been true 5-10 years ago but not now.

You guys don't realize the speed at which the culture changes now because of the Internet and smart phones. EVERYONE and EVERYTHING is online now. Its hip. Even banking. Lots of banks are closing their branches. You can cash checks by using your smart phone to take a picture of it.

Catch up guys. You will NOT get better quality by avoiding online girls. The girls you meet through cold approach and social circles will be online too lol. As @Tenacity said earlier in this thread.. what you see online is a reflection of today's market. This is the market. You can run but you can't hide.

You clearly didn't read my previous post on page 3....no point arguing this since I already pointed this logic out as flawed.....

 

[guru1000]

I'll do my best son. then again you ran for the hills when dynamically wanted to meet you. did you file a lawsuit against him? lmaooo

I only sue to intimidate to effect my will, like how I effected your ban. But I'll take pleasure in showing you much of a snowflake your offline girl can be.

 

[Solomon]

All women are bred that same to the extent that they ALL love validation and attention (if they can get it), whether that be OLD, facebook, instagram, etc.

Also we are delving into the realm that some women are different, hence the "unicorn" is found outside of OLD. Unfortunately unicorns do not exist; but women with certain motivations do. Either you meet those motivations (aka "needs") or you don't. Most confuse a man's meeting a woman's "needs" with his finding a unicorn. Not the same.

Not disagreeing with this but are we really gonna argue that the quality of looks, value, behavior etc of OLD is better than real life? Jesus does anyone on this site hit the field anymore? or even do social circle gaming?

 

[guru1000]

Not disagreeing with this but are we really gonna argue that the quality of looks, value, behavior etc of OLD is better than real life? Jesus does anyone on this site hit the field anymore? or even do social circle gaming?

For the sake of a good discussion, let's continue. I date both on- and off-line with the majority of women online. Remember, I'm not proposing one method is superior to the other in terms of "unicorn quality," rather that all women stripped of their veneers are all the same insofar as the same biological and social conditioning and impetuses which direct their behaviors are present.

Your argument purports that women offline have better looks, behavior, and values.

As to looks, granted you don't find as many 9s and 10s online than if you walked directly into Ford modeling agency, but if you were to walk down, let's say, an average street on an average day in NYC, the girls you would find are very similar in looks to what one might find online on the average day.

As to behavior, behavior is subject to whom she is behaving towards. If you are a high-value guy, she will demonstrate impeccable behavior--whether that be on- or off-line. Granted, you will be under more stringent competition online, as there are other high-value men pursuing her, but being highly competitive by nature, I enjoy the competition. Here I would say offline women are easier by virtue of less competition.

As to values, this seems to be the real focus right here. What greater values do you believe offline women have that online women don't? I'm interested to know.

 

[guru1000]

OLD works well for certain ppl but not the vast majority of ppl. It was a huge was of time for me. I can date pretty hot women with fun Personalities offline that give me a decent shake but only average women with awful personalities that barely bother to show up online.

In other words, women offline are easier pickings by virtue of less competition, and thus less inflated heads.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

I only sue to intimidate to effect my will, like how I effected your ban. But I'll take pleasure in showing you much of a snowflake your offline girl can be.

So in other words you take so suave seriously. ten years and counting. EMBARRASSING.

better brush your hair implants and whiten them dentures keyboard jockey. Where you at in NY? I'm in the city. Don't run away Lil guy. you're banging on your keyboard to the wrong one.

I only sue to intimidate to effect my will, like how I effected your ban. But I'll take pleasure in showing you much of a snowflake your offline girl can be.

Only thing you'll do is "file a hurt feewings lawsuit" and have a "life coach" mental meltdown like we've all witnessed before ponzi.

 

[Urbanyst]

I don't need to believe it. I know social circle, chicks who don't need to use old are better. I've got far too much experience.

but if you hang out with trash. trash is what you'll get.

to even try to compare chicks using OLD to chicks who don't is ridiculous at best. true there are many chicks out there who are low quality but there are also many out their that are high quality and they aren't using OLD.

you can dismiss it all you like. a chick you meet out ever tells you she's been on pof, match, tinder etc. old she's told you who she is. you'd better listen. that's your major time to smile politely and bounce red flag.

but I get it. thirsty dudes need to justify their own excuses to try to get any Poon they can and take whatever they can get.

You just don't get it. The stigma of OLD is gone. Just like the stigma of being a slut is gone.

Once society removes a stigma.. every type of woman comes in. OLD is also "hip" now with all the apps. Women are always on their smart phones and dating apps are fun for them when they're single.

Your viewpoint is from 2007. Things have changed. Catch up.

 

[guru1000]

NN has been frequenting these forums since 2000. And he was 50 yo back then. So I doubt he knows how to use a smart phone. But yes, it is true, 95% of young women (hopefully we are pursuing young women, right?) are on OLD, facebook, instagram, snap or some online utility where they can be approached. To say that hot young women are not online in any manner whereas they are not susceptible to being approached is silly.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

NN has been frequenting these forums since 2000. And he was 50 yo back then. So I doubt he knows how to use a smart phone. But yes, it is true, 95% of young women (hopefully we are pursuing young women, right?) are on OLD, facebook, instagram, snap or some online utility where they can be approached. To say that hot young women are not online in any manner whereas they are not susceptible to being approached is silly.

get your facts straight Lil guy. it's been since 95 and I was 55 back then. What's a smart phone?

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

You just don't get it. The stigma of OLD is gone. Just like the stigma of being a slut is gone.

Once society removes a stigma.. every type of woman comes in. OLD is also "hip" now with all the apps. Women are always on their smart phones and dating apps are fun for them when they're single.

Your viewpoint is from 2007. Things have changed. Catch up.

almost everyone uses smart phones. not specifically for dating apps. might as well claim because people drive cars they all cheat.

I personally know tons of chicks not using dating apps or needing to run to them if they break up with some dude. most I know are in relationships, married, too busy with work, family friends etc. to fit into your negative social outcast attempts to justify your viewpoint.

do a lot of chicks use old? yep. but no where near all. if you include FB not nearly every chick uses it for dating. you sound like the insecure type of dude that would need to find a chick that's never come in contact with any male period or she's "dating and been hit" by the dude.

beta male paranoia.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You just don't get it. The stigma of OLD is gone. Just like the stigma of being a slut is gone.

Once society removes a stigma.. every type of woman comes in. OLD is also "hip" now with all the apps. Women are always on their smart phones and dating apps are fun for them when they're single.

Your viewpoint is from 2007. Things have changed. Catch up.

So if all girls are on OLD, and OLD is full of trash.... how does that make sense?

 

[Urbanyst]

almost everyone uses smart phones. not specifically for dating apps. might as well claim because people drive cars they all cheat.

I personally know tons of chicks not using dating apps or needing to run to them if they break up with some dude. most I know are in relationships, married, too busy with work, family friends etc. to fit into your negative social outcast attempts to justify your viewpoint.

do a lot of chicks use old? yep. but no where near all. if you include FB not nearly every chick uses it for dating. you sound like the insecure type of dude that would need to find a chick that's never come in contact with any male period or she's "dating and been hit" by the dude.

beta male paranoia.

No intelligent person would read my post and actually believe I was saying ALL as in 100% of women.

That's absurd. Come on.. you're smarter than this I hope.

So if all girls are on OLD, and OLD is full of trash.... how does that make sense?

See post above.