Sticking point: bringing up sex

[RichardTheFrog]

I think it's like how there are guys who have the confidence to send d!ck pics but don't have the confidence to cold approach, i know guys like that

It's more about what is socially acceptable. And what won't get you kicked out of bars.

You can go on Tinder and message every girl that matches you with "hey want to **** later" and that's okay...

But I don't know how well that would work in a bar. It might get you kicked out real fast.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Omg, I cringed so hard reading that first post.

Do not ask to see pics of boobs or any other intimate body part online. Don't have an online conversation about real estate or any other mundane subject. Do ask them out on a date ASAP, try the two steps forward and one step back strategy in person instead.

When you do meet them in person, do not talk directly about sex. If you're going to involve sex in the conversation then be subtle about it, very subtle! I doubt you have the experience to pull that off elegantly yet, but practice will help. At first you must be prepared to fail for the sake of practice and experimentation. After every encounter you should reflect on your experience, try to figure out what you might have done wrong and do that part differently with the next girl. Most importantly, move on if it falls apart with a girl.

Nobody did it right on their first few tries with women. Look up any skilled PUA, they failed a ton of times and that's exactly how they became so skilled. They learned from their countless mistakes to turn their losses into success.

Do you think it really matters if you bring up sex subtly? And do you think there is such a thing as bringing it up subtly? It is what is on girls minds too.

So you are saying I shouldn't bring up sex and I should be subtle about it.... at the same time that she has 2 **** buddies that she keeps around for their d1cks and nothing else? She's not an innocent girl.

I had a Tinder hookup about 18 months ago. I got pictures right away. She came straight to my house without a date. She then texted me about a week later to want to **** again.

Real estate isn't mundane to me, but that's not really the point. And it is also important to note what she does for a living and how much money she makes or doesn't make and what her living situation is, etc. To me, money and job actually matters a lot more than little tricks and games and theories.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Exactly, "quality" is more than being able to assemble oneself as a well put together hooker...

What more quality can a girl have?

No matter how much else she could be worth... she better be sucking my d1ck like a hooker or there's no reason to have her around.

And what girl is going to want to spend her whole life with my d1ck in her mouth. Lol.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What more quality can a girl have?

No matter how much else she could be worth... she better be sucking my d1ck like a hooker or there's no reason to have her around.

And what girl is going to want to spend her whole life with my d1ck in her mouth. Lol.

She can have a useable intelligent mind and she can bring money and experience to the table.

 

[marmel75]

You never bring up sex unless you want to look like a clueless desperate dude who has no experience with women.

You escalate and create opportunities for that to happen by turning her on. Nothing needs to be said she wants sex just as much as guys do if not more.

 

[Serenity]

Do you think it really matters if you bring up sex subtly? And do you think there is such a thing as bringing it up subtly? It is what is on girls minds too.

I don't think so, I know so. It is on their minds too, but so is the fear of coming off as a slut.

I had a Tinder hookup about 18 months ago. I got pictures right away. She came straight to my house without a date. She then texted me about a week later to want to **** again.

There are exceptions, don't play stupid.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You never bring up sex unless you want to look like a clueless desperate dude who has no experience with women.

You escalate and create opportunities for that to happen by turning her on. Nothing needs to be said she wants sex just as much as guys do if not more.

Really? What do you think she says to her **** buddies when she wants them to come over?

She says...

"Hey come over and **** me"

Nothing subtle about it.

And how exactly do you bring up sex subtly?

 

[marmel75]

It's because I have no problem talking about sex online, but I don't know how to bring it up in person.

It's not exactly socially acceptable to be a huge creep in person. But that doesn't mean it's not on everyone's mind.

Honestly, I don't even care about her pictures or her at all.

Like I said, she sits home and watches TV all day and plays with cats.

A girls body is nothing special. Do you think a male gynecologist gets turned on every time he sees a patient?

If this girl wanted me to come **** her right now, I probably wouldn't even do it because she lives 90 minutes away.

This is completely backward and basically tells the women you have no experience around women or how to handle them.

The reason why is because guys with experience act sexual in person, not through the internet. People acting sexual online are a dime a dozen and typically come off as not the type of person a woman would want to go out with unless it's done properly and I'm willing to bet you aren't doing it properly based on not knowing how to do it in person...

 

[marmel75]

Really? What do you think she says to her **** buddies when she wants them to come over?

She says...

"Hey come over and **** me"

Nothing subtle about it.

And how exactly do you bring up sex subtly?

You aren't one of her fvck buddies, that's the whole point.

You never will be until you learn how to properly escalate in date first. You want to get to the 10th floor without going up the stairs or the escalator...

it doesn't work like that, but you've already found that out haven't you?

 

[devilkingx2]

You never bring up sex unless you want to look like a clueless desperate dude who has no experience with women.

you have sex with women who would be offended at the mere mention of sex?

 

[marmel75]

you have sex with women who would be offended at the mere mention of sex?

Not at all, you wait for them to bring it up if anything. All I want to do is get them out in person, anything that could be detrimental to that I stay away from. Why would you want to take the chance to put yourself in the desperate loser category?

FYI I'm talking about before meeting and you are in the texting/messaging phase.

Once they are in front of me then it's the time to act and be sexual, not online.

 

[devilkingx2]

It's because I have no problem talking about sex online, but I don't know how to bring it up in person.

if she likes you it will be easy, if she doesn't like you it will be hard.

if a girl likes you, except in the case of there being something wrong with her, it'll be super easy to get to the subject of sex, whether in person or not.

though if you're in person there's not that much need to talk about it first unless you want to do something controversial (don't just stick it up the butt without saying anything first lol)

 

[devilkingx2]

Not at all, you wait for them to bring it up if anything. All I want to do is get them out in person, anything that could be detrimental to that I stay away from.

FYI I'm talking about before meeting and you are in the texting/messaging phase.

Once they are in front of me then it's the time to act and be sexual, not online.

in my experience, there are girls who are going to think you're a creep or a pervert if you bring up sex, but I can't say I thought any single one of those girls was ever going to have sex with me. (think of it like this, if a gay man wants to talk to you about sucking ****, you're gonna be like ewww no wtf, which reflects your complete lack of desire to blow him. )

there are girls who are going to tell you something that lets you know that you don't want to bother having sex with them anyway, which in my case is whenever a girl reveals herself to be so closed minded she only wants to do the things she already likes that get her off, with no thought to anything else. (these girls could only be pump and dumps anyway), but in the case of someone else, she could accidentally reveal herself to be a huge slvt who banged 2 dozen guys already and that could turn you off

there are girls who are going to play coy, tease you, imply something, etc. when the topic of sex comes up. these girls most likely are trying to play the good girl but ready for some fun

and finally, there are the girls that will just outright tell you they can suck a golf ball through a garden hose and once had sex for 8 hours straight because she was bored on a sunday, these are the best kind by far.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

This is completely backward and basically tells the women you have no experience around women or how to handle them.

The reason why is because guys with experience act sexual in person, not through the internet. People acting sexual online are a dime a dozen and typically come off as not the type of person a woman would want to go out with unless it's done properly and I'm willing to bet you aren't doing it properly based on not knowing how to do it in person...

Don't know how to handle them?

You mean don't know how to **** them?

Well that's the easy part, isn't it?

How exactly do you "act sexual" in public? Isn't that reserved for the bedroom? Do I have to talk about my d1ck all the time and make sexual jokes?

(Actually, this has worked when I've gotten drunk and talked about my implant. It has gotten girls interested.)

 

[marmel75]

Don't know how to handle them?

You mean don't know how to **** them?

Well that's the easy part, isn't it?

How exactly do you "act sexual" in public? Isn't that reserved for the bedroom? Do I have to talk about my d1ck all the time and make sexual jokes?

(Actually, this has worked when I've gotten drunk and talked about my implant. It has gotten girls interested.)

Easily...You touch them, whisper in their ear,give them a massage and start kissing their neck...grab their hand and put them directly on your c0ck...

You don't TALK about anything, you just do...

 

[devilkingx2]

How exactly do you "act sexual" in public? Isn't that reserved for the bedroom? Do I have to talk about my d1ck all the time and make sexual jokes?

talk about your **** = nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

make sex jokes = yes if you're good at them, telling awful jokes will do you no favors, but a girl who's too prudish and uptight to laugh at "that's what she said" is probably not a good prospect

but mostly you just flirt with them, use kino (physical touching) escalation (touch her knee and slowly slide your hand up her leg, kiss her and if that works out kiss her with tongue and get the makeout, or kiss her on her neck, etc. until you guys are getting naked in the car)

as for doing it in public, just don't talk so loud that people other than her hear you and you can say anything. I've had public discussions about very illegal things and dark, edgy jokes that way.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Easily...You touch them, whisper in their ear,give them a massage and start kissing their neck...grab their hand and put them directly on your c0ck...

You don't TALK about anything, you just do...

And you do this in a crowded restaurant or bar with 50 people around?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

talk about your **** = nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

make sex jokes = yes if you're good at them, telling awful jokes will do you no favors, but a girl who's too prudish and uptight to laugh at "that's what she said" is probably not a good prospect

but mostly you just flirt with them, use kino (physical touching) escalation (touch her knee and slowly slide your hand up her leg, kiss her and if that works out kiss her with tongue and get the makeout, or kiss her on her neck, etc. until you guys are getting naked in the car)

as for doing it in public, just don't talk so loud that people other than her hear you and you can say anything. I've had public discussions about very illegal things and dark, edgy jokes that way.

And you do all this physical escalation in a crowded bar or restaurant?

What is this forums obsessions with ****ing in vehicles?

 

[devilkingx2]

And you do all this physical escalation in a crowded bar or restaurant?

I mean, most of the girls I've ever dated know that if it were up to me we'd order our food then go have sex in the bathroom for 30 minutes until they delivered it lmfao.

and you know what, most girls who like you aren't prudish and are going to be down for most things you want to do to them/with them. (keyword most, girls who like you but are boring or scardey cats exist. girls who are kinky freaks but don't like you very much are also common)

What is this forums obsessions with ****ing in vehicles?

the whole world is obsessed with vehicles despite not needing them unless you live in the middle of nowhere for some reason

 

[marmel75]

And you do this in a crowded restaurant or bar with 50 people around?

Yes...but I make sure I go to a place I know there are corner booths we can sit in or darkened areas...

I once had a girl jacking me off under the table while I was rubbing her pvssy thru her jeans and grabbing her boobs...Needless to say you know what happened once we left there.

It was a pretty common occurrence for me to do all the things I mentioned on a routine basis on a first date.

You'd be surprised how much a woman loves it when you take her hand and put it directly on top of a hard c0ck in public...they definitely weren't shy about keeping their hands there and helping themselves either...