Sticking point: bringing up sex

[RichardTheFrog]

there's gotta be an aspect you haven't tapped into yet.

Yes and I wonder what that is.

Perhaps to let out some rage instead of keeping it bottled up?

As misogynistic as I sometimes sound, I never talk this way to girls.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Any suggestions on where I should ask her to? What type of place? This is actually new to me.

Here's another question that you, or anyone else, might know....

Seems like every girl I talk to doesn't want to talk about her past relationships. They always say something like they are tired of being lied to. That is what this girl said. I really want to ask her about what she was lied to about, but I know that's not a good idea. So perhaps someone here knows?

Apparently, the guys who are being successful are the ones who are lying and manipulating these girls? Now I have to play "Mr. Nice Guy" after she's choked on the d! cks of a million liars?

How does this work and what's going on here?

I am beginning to realize that no matter how hot the girl or how much "social status" she may be trying to portray, at some point in her past, there was at least one guy who lied to her and used her.

Is it bad to say that I would like to be that guy? Hell, he probably even got her to pay for stuff, while over here thinking I have to be a millionaire in order to have value.

eff her. That's why you can't "lead with your wallet", you shouldn't even want to. She should be wanting to use you as a vendor for preferred d1ck.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm starting to believe it all boils down to only talking to women that have high interest in you. I don't see myself as having game however I was able spin one plate and these last couple of days and the reason I believe I'm successful is because she has extremely high interest. she's no dime she's not that pretty however I believe my personality and laid-back attitude is what got her interested. As for having sex I simply kissed her and she told me to touch her and it just went from there.

Talking to low or moderate interest babes is a sure way to decrease your attractiveness to other females. It DRINKS your swag, or shrings you "mojo", eats your MASCULINITY. Not good for us as men.

It's good to have a couple of back bending 5 and 6's that will do anything you want versus a 9 that you have to back bend, waste money and disrespect yourself with.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

eff her. That's why you can't "lead with your wallet", you shouldn't even want to. She should be wanting to use you as a vendor for preferred d1ck.

Yea I'm beginning to realize that money isn't going to matter all that much. And even if a girl did like me for money, why would I want to give any to her?

This girl I'm talking to on POF liked her **** buddies just for the d1ck, but now she's saying she doesn't want to talk to me about sex even though we did talk about it for a little bit. She says she wants a relationship so someone will show her attention and affection and care for her. Is that just a crock of **** or what? Why didn't the other guys have to give her that? Why can't I just give her d1ck and let it be that simple?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yea I'm beginning to realize that money isn't going to matter all that much. And even if a girl did like me for money, why would I want to give any to her?

This girl I'm talking to on POF liked her **** buddies just for the d1ck, but now she's saying she doesn't want to talk to me about sex even though we did talk about it for a little bit. She says she wants a relationship so someone will show her attention and affection and care for her. Is that just a crock of **** or what? Why didn't the other guys have to give her that? Why can't I just give her d1ck and let it be that simple?

Play that h0e and phvck her if you can. She's gotta want you, you cant waste your time.

That's some BS about her not wanting to do sex talk with you, she probably is with her eff buddies. Don't waste a lot of time on this one.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Play that h0e and phvck her if you can. She's gotta want you, you cant waste your time.

Yea that's all I would do. God help me if I get one of these idiots pregnant.

I don't know how to make her want me. I honestly don't care enough to join a gym just to increase looks.

At this point, she's telling me she doesn't want to talk about sex with me. But maybe I'm asking too much to have free sex with her just like her **** buddies do without even knowing her yesterday and never being friends with her at all.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yea that's all I would do. God help me if I get one of these idiots pregnant.

I don't know how to make her want me. I honestly don't care enough to join a gym just to increase looks.

At this point, she's telling me she doesn't want to talk about sex with me. But maybe I'm asking too much to have free sex with her just like her **** buddies do without even knowing her yesterday and never being friends with her at all.

What kinda "carrots" can she fall for? Concert, money, shopping, etc? Dangle a carrot, get what you want and don't deliver...

 

[RichardTheFrog]

What kinda "carrots" can she fall for? Concert, money, shopping, etc? Dangle a carrot, get what you want and don't deliver...

Perhaps "a relationship" is the carrot. I just have to build a little comfort first. Maybe make her laugh a few times (and don't tell her about that cyberstalking thing).

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Perhaps "a relationship" is the carrot. I just have to build a little comfort first. Maybe make her laugh a few times (and don't tell her about that cyberstalking thing).

If you can't hit it, you have nothing. Some of these dumb h0es feel entertained when you can play em.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Perhaps "a relationship" is the carrot. I just have to build a little comfort first. Maybe make her laugh a few times (and don't tell her about that cyberstalking thing).

She don't need comfort she needs endorphins and adrenaline.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

She don't need comfort she needs endorphins and adrenaline.

Well she lives about 90 minutes away and the only way I know to not be boring is to talk about sex... but she's not having that right now.

I am SO GLAD that I read enough "red pill" and MGTOW stuff to never get married. I can't imagine how much life sucks for people who are court ordered to pay 1/3 of their income and half their assets to one of these things.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I'm still talking to her...

She is batsh1t insane. She spends her time watching TV, playing with cats, and "planning" which means writing things in her planner.

She most likely runs in circles all day long and accomplishes very little (or nothing) that is productive.

If I can explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity to a 5th grader... I should be able to figure this out.

This reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where girls get stupid without sex. Also.... realizing today that they like sex more than money.... I remember hearing that they "fall in love" with guys who give them orgasms through intercourse.

 

[skinnyguy]

Talking to low or moderate interest babes is a sure way to decrease your attractiveness to other females. It DRINKS your swag, or shrings you "mojo", eats your MASCULINITY. Not good for us as men.

It's good to have a couple of back bending 5 and 6's that will do anything you want versus a 9 that you have to back bend, waste money and disrespect yourself with.

Good post.

I had to ditch a couple of girls cause they were just money grubbing broke chicks who had nothing to offer other than puss. Respecting yourself enough to only date women who are high quality is key. A lot of times the hot ones with bad behavior have a lot of mental and financial problems. Surround yourself with women who don't bring drama.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm still talking to her...

She is batsh1t insane. She spends her time watching TV, playing with cats, and "planning" which means writing things in her planner.

She most likely runs in circles all day long and accomplishes very little (or nothing) that is productive.

If I can explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity to a 5th grader... I should be able to figure this out.

This reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where girls get stupid without sex. Also.... realizing today that they like sex more than money.... I remember hearing that they "fall in love" with guys who give them orgasms through intercourse.

Plate here and think you talk when one is planning a visit. Make sure she drinks.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Good post.

I had to ditch a couple of girls cause they were just money grubbing broke chicks who had nothing to offer other than puss. Respecting yourself enough to only date women who are high quality is key. A lot of times the hot ones with bad behavior have a lot of mental and financial problems. Surround yourself with women who don't bring drama.

Exactly, "quality" is more than being able to assemble oneself as a well put together hooker...

 

[Trump]

Any suggestions on where I should ask her to? What type of place? This is actually new to me.

Here's another question that you, or anyone else, might know....

Seems like every girl I talk to doesn't want to talk about her past relationships. They always say something like they are tired of being lied to. That is what this girl said. I really want to ask her about what she was lied to about, but I know that's not a good idea. So perhaps someone here knows?

Apparently, the guys who are being successful are the ones who are lying and manipulating these girls? Now I have to play "Mr. Nice Guy" after she's choked on the d! cks of a million liars?

How does this work and what's going on here?

I am beginning to realize that no matter how hot the girl or how much "social status" she may be trying to portray, at some point in her past, there was at least one guy who lied to her and used her.

Is it bad to say that I would like to be that guy? Hell, he probably even got her to pay for stuff, while over here thinking I have to be a millionaire in order to have value.

This is making no sense to me. You have no issues asking a girl you met online to show you her chest. And then you have 50 questions how what to do, where to go, how to lie to her, etc, etc, etc.

It's like a guy who makes a million asking advice on how to make a $100.

 

[Serenity]

Omg, I cringed so hard reading that first post.

Do not ask to see pics of boobs or any other intimate body part online. Don't have an online conversation about real estate or any other mundane subject. Do ask them out on a date ASAP, try the two steps forward and one step back strategy in person instead.

When you do meet them in person, do not talk directly about sex. If you're going to involve sex in the conversation then be subtle about it, very subtle! I doubt you have the experience to pull that off elegantly yet, but practice will help. At first you must be prepared to fail for the sake of practice and experimentation. After every encounter you should reflect on your experience, try to figure out what you might have done wrong and do that part differently with the next girl. Most importantly, move on if it falls apart with a girl.

Nobody did it right on their first few tries with women. Look up any skilled PUA, they failed a ton of times and that's exactly how they became so skilled. They learned from their countless mistakes to turn their losses into success.

 

[devilkingx2]

I don't think bringing up sex is a bad thing, if she doesn't like you talking about sex she isn't going to have sex with you

At this point, I'm not sure how much of a DTF type girl she is, so I decide to just go for it and ask if she will show me her boobs. She says no.

your problem here was bringing it up out of nowhere with a girl who didn't seem particularly slvtty before even having sex or going on a date with her.

she'd send you the pics after sex most likely, or at least a few more weeks/dates into knowing each other, but only the biggest slvts you could possibly imagine would send you nudes immediately lol.

I'm starting to believe it all boils down to only talking to women that have high interest in you.

basically, yeah. the game is maximizing their interest, weeding out the ones whose interest is low, and not doing anything to lower interest. there are numerous forces outside your control

 

[devilkingx2]

This is making no sense to me. You have no issues asking a girl you met online to show you her chest. And then you have 50 questions how what to do, where to go, how to lie to her, etc, etc, etc.

It's like a guy who makes a million asking advice on how to make a $100.

I think it's like how there are guys who have the confidence to send d!ck pics but don't have the confidence to cold approach, i know guys like that

 

[RichardTheFrog]

This is making no sense to me. You have no issues asking a girl you met online to show you her chest. And then you have 50 questions how what to do, where to go, how to lie to her, etc, etc, etc.

It's like a guy who makes a million asking advice on how to make a $100.

It's because I have no problem talking about sex online, but I don't know how to bring it up in person.

It's not exactly socially acceptable to be a huge creep in person. But that doesn't mean it's not on everyone's mind.

Honestly, I don't even care about her pictures or her at all.

Like I said, she sits home and watches TV all day and plays with cats.

A girls body is nothing special. Do you think a male gynecologist gets turned on every time he sees a patient?

If this girl wanted me to come **** her right now, I probably wouldn't even do it because she lives 90 minutes away.