FIRST DATE RAPPORT - Is she playing games?

[TheGambino]

Did she shut you down? As in I'm going back to "X" city never to be heard from again?

She either toyed with you or she's very cautious. You'll have to discern which.

Here's the bit you are missing.

This thread shouldn't be about her. This thread should be about you. Think how much social proof you gain being seen with her and by leaving with her. The only two people who know what happened after y'all left is you and her. Not anyone else. If anyone asks say you never kiss & tell, smile & leave it at that.

All the other girls out that night saw you arrive and leave with a 9. There is your leverage.

She out gamed you this round in any case just as she has done countless times before.

No shutting down bro... Her mom and dad (divorced) live near my city and she lives and works in Amsterdam, hours away from where I live.
She comes back to visit her parents every couple of weeks and goes to parties in the city where I live once a while you see..

Don't forget about this: I still need to do a little thing for her at my work to sell her some stuff to her

 

[TheGambino]

Jeez guys I would love to see a self declarred feminist deepthroat me until she gaggs then I smack her ass red and f8ck her brains out so hard she thinks I took her to Mars and back. Let her eat my cumm and jump of my bed and take a shower without cuddling or wuzzing and make myself a sandwich. Then go back to the room and watch her look at me like WTF!?

 

[Bokanovsky]

Jeez guys I would love to see a self declarred feminist deepthroat me until she gaggs then I smack her ass red and f8ck her brains out so hard she thinks I took her to Mars and back. Let her eat my cumm and jump of my bed and take a shower without cuddling or wuzzing and make myself a sandwich. Then go back to the room and watch her look at me like WTF!?

Be careful not to end up like this guy:

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/...lty-of-sexual-assault-in-mandi-gray-case.html

This was a very high profile sexual assault case here in Canada. Two poli sci PHD students/teaching assistants (both left-wingers who met at union strike meeting, of all places) were hooking up for weeks. One day, the girl decides that she was "raped" and files a police complaint. Judge sentences the guy to 18 months in jail. The decision was overturned on appeal but only after two years of litigation and who knows how much money spent on legal fees (not to mention having his name plastered all over the news as a "convicted rapist").

As the old adage goes, don't stick your d!ck in crazy. It's not worth it.

 

[guru1000]

1. Ex-gf of five years: Rejected my first date kiss attempt twice.

2. Ex-gf of one year: Rejected my first date kiss five times.

Some women find it de-valuing to kiss a guy on the first date. Other women might find your value too high and think you're trying to escalate a pump-and-dump schema--or--that you're just being nice. Other women are unsure of their interest. Other women might find your value too low, and not be interested.

If you want to identify her IL, ask for the date. The hand that burns on the stove learns harshly, but quickly. Similarly, nothing incites the motivation to improve better than rejection.

I encourage all men to embrace rejection ferociously.

 

[TheGambino]

Wished her fun at her vacation she replies a lot sends me snaps and comments flirty on a selfie. I like that

 

[beforeimgone]

Hmm guess my testosterone made a jump. Didn't overdo it, I described what I did.
I realize that I probably have to downscale with this broad.

The more sexual you are, the more you will drive women that don't want you w away and attract the ones that want you.

You did most things right based on your story. She didn't kiss you? She's not into you.

A female that wants you will not take the chance of seeming uninterested. Move on or she will rope you into her team

 

[TheGambino]

The more sexual you are, the more you will drive women that don't want you w away and attract the ones that want you.

You did most things right based on your story. She didn't kiss you? She's not into you.

A female that wants you will not take the chance of seeming uninterested. Move on or she will rope you into her team

Ill give her one more shot if shes back. Casual date, make her work at that date and push in. NO result is NC forever. I quit contacting now.

She can't resist this DJ, she saw my moves, she knows Ill wreck that pvssy man, im ice dude. F8cking her loss, I know shes fire too. I just need one lay too make her squirt and shes in.

 

[beforeimgone]

Ill give her one more shot if shes back. Casual date, make her work at that date and push in. NO result is NC forever. I quit contacting now.

She can't resist this DJ, she saw my moves, she knows Ill wreck that pvssy man, im ice dude. F8cking her loss, I know shes fire too. I just need one lay too make her squirt and shes in.

I feel that. Ice cold. Be careful though, your belief that one round of seks is what will get her sprung may be a vulnerability if she senses it. That'll be the carrot she dangles

 

[TheGambino]

I feel that. Ice cold. Be careful though, your belief that one round of seks is what will get her sprung may be a vulnerability if she senses it. That'll be the carrot she dangles

What do you mean? Im foreign.

 

[beforeimgone]

What do you mean? Im foreign.

Once she senses that you think sex will get her whipped, she will "almost" give it to you. This will extend the attention and fun times you give her.

Similar to how you would dangle a relationship in front of a low value female to extend the sex

 

[TheGambino]

Interesting... Shes very smart, she would understand that principle perfectly.

 

[beforeimgone]

For sure, the way you're talking about her it appears as though she may be better at creating Orbiters than the average chick. Always keep in mind that she didn't kiss you. It was for a reason.

You got this

 

[SuckItUp]

You missed a golden opportunity to spike her interest at the club. Jealousy can be a powerful ally. I get the sense that you were too focused on her and didn't add in the needed doubt by flirting with other women at the club.

You gave her too much value.

Never discuss feminism, woman's right, etc. it almost never turns out in your favor.

 

[TheGambino]

Reached out to set up a date. Were good she conforms and is happy to go.

 

[Redzky]

Know this HB9 for a couple of years but not very well. Mutual friends and she disappeared for college in Amsterdam. She came down the shop where I work for bathroom materials, I helped her with it.
Flirted there and jumped intoo her in a club a couple of days later. We danced, handled it like a DJ all night and she digged it.

Asked her out for yesterday and we were set.

First we went for a drink at a bar, then to a club.

She's smart, a company psychologist, completed her masters degree. I love that.
Her passion is dancing salsa, she's a vegan and there we go.... she tells me that she's a feminist. Next to that she has one amazing body and a cute face. That for, the complete package I rate her a 9.

I asked her lots and lots of questions, let her do 80% of the talking. Questions like where did you grow up, what's the funniest thing that ever happened to you, what are your passions... She kept talking, ofcourse she loved to talk about herself and she asked me lots of questions too.

She tells me she didn't have a serious LTR since 2011, she doesn't sleep around at all, she worries about being alone for such a long time. But she doesn't like guys in her city that f8ck around until their 35 then settle. If she has cex it has to be a serious thing she tells me lol.

When she told me she's a feminist, my honest reaction was negativly shocked for a second, and she saw it in me. We had a small discussion about that, equal rights man/women duududu whatever.

Anyway we went to the club. AWESOME night. I rocked her night and she rocked mine. We danced for hours straight, moving her to different places, grabbing her hand to dance, grinded a bit. We both love to dance so we were rocking the dancefloor together and I could see that she was super happy all night.

I came on hard, girls were eyeing me because she's so beautiful and she knows I get around. (extra info)

In the car we went on questioning each other and then she wants to stop on the road to smoke a cig and talk some more. We stop I sit on my car hood with her, we talk some and I go for the kiss she rejects. "Noo sorryy my feeling says no''

Ignored it, just laughed it off and started a new subject like nothing happened. In the car I grabb her hand and we do the cute little couple hand thing all the way back home.

I invite her in for a drink she declines, I laugh and tell her to do 1 drink with me and watch the stars.

She accepts my offer and we do a drink, after a fun convo again I try to kiss her one more time at my doorstep but she refuses again. ''Im not like that''

The date went smoothly, did everything the correct way and had a AWESOME night overall. But not so sure what to think about the kissing rejections. enlighten me.

You have to be patient with her. Probably more than it's worth. Women like this usually have some childhood trauma - probably molestation or sexual assault.

She wants a gentleman or a guy that will go out of his way. She wants you to invest 180% while she only gives 20%. I had a couple of girls like this when I was younger. Took me a long to build their trust, but I got it along with the sex.

It's going to be a mind****, but if you really want the challenge, it's not impossible. Just be persistent and do your best to show her that you can behave in an honorable fashion. Don't get angry or impatient. Show her you are capable of something profound and not just physical.

Put some thought into where you take her. Give her some little gifts, nothing expensive, just thoughtful. Maybe picking some flowers on the way to see her.

Don't criticize her views - try to understand where she's coming from. Listen and when you do talk, talk positively. Stories similar to whatever topics she brings up will do. Don't overcompensate, stay humble and focus on getting her to open up about her past. Try to get her to tell you something she would never tell anyone, but without prying.

Hope I was of some help - good luck.

 

[TheGambino]

You have to be patient with her. Probably more than it's worth. Women like this usually have some childhood trauma - probably molestation or sexual assault.

She wants a gentleman or a guy that will go out of his way. She wants you to invest 180% while she only gives 20%. I had a couple of girls like this when I was younger. Took me a long to build their trust, but I got it along with the sex.

It's going to be a mind****, but if you really want the challenge, it's not impossible. Just be persistent and do your best to show her that you can behave in an honorable fashion. Don't get angry or impatient. Show her you are capable of something profound and not just physical.

Put some thought into where you take her. Give her some little gifts, nothing expensive, just thoughtful. Maybe picking some flowers on the way to see her.

Don't criticize her views - try to understand where she's coming from. Listen and when you do talk, talk positively. Stories similar to whatever topics she brings up will do. Don't overcompensate, stay humble and focus on getting her to open up about her past. Try to get her to tell you something she would never tell anyone, but without prying.

Hope I was of some help - good luck.

Will do This chick is finally a quality girl, a girl with principes, with reason. A happy girl that stands for What she believes in. Attractive and a great dancer, a worthy girl to raise my kids. Im going to play the long game with her and see What iT brings. My goal is making out This time, if iT doesnt happen again Im aborting the mission.