wake up bro
what i described isnt even some dystopian future, its happening RIGHT NOW. in the future the technology will just be better and more immersive and the agenda further in its course.
More Young Men Giving Up On Marriage Because Women Aren't Women Anymore
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wake up bro
what i described isnt even some dystopian future, its happening RIGHT NOW. in the future the technology will just be better and more immersive and the agenda further in its course.
AttackFormation
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I didn't mean you're wrong, I meant where do you watch/read up on this stuff, who have you listened to. There's a ton of "sources" on this stuff that you form your own conclusions from so I'm just interested in what your most important ones have been. Pardon me if I still sound accusatory... it's really not my intention haha
AttackFormation
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Imo the best moments in life are right after you cvm. It's the only time your body gives your mind peace and lets it be free of the obsessive haze that it normally exists in, for a moment. It's also my #1 tool for filtering women, is if I think I still want to be with her after I've cvmmed.
All the bullsh!t you go through with women, money you waste, effort you spend, has to feel like it's for something more in the end than relieving an urge. If it isn't, it's not worth it the time and energy. I personally can't wait for the day when I'm not compelled to think about women anymore and can just enjoy life.
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sazc
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LMAO such a beta move. Why not just jump up and down in front of her, waving your hands and screaming "Pick me! Pick me!"
Sn overt attempt to control her by shaking her confidence, which obviously she saw right thru. You want to know why she chose to blatantly hurt you by dropping the bomb that she wasn't on love with you? Because you tried to play these games with her in an effort to make her second guess potential thoughts of moving on from you with, in her mind, younger, better men.
Your negging backfired and she got the last neg in. She had you in HER frame all along, you just didn't see it.
Peace and Quiet
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
As much as you hate this: I dumped her. Want to bet me $1000 and have readers vote on our last text conversation?
Dropping the bomb 9 months later?? You wish, grandma.
You call me beta and yet you think you know every nuance of my last relationship?
BTW you seem to think the word beta has deep meaning. Any woman over 40 is beta and you know it.
Here is what sazc wishes she looked like:
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That's the thing though. More women are wanting marriage so they're clearly not giving up on marriage.
Readers should consider: I met the most beautiful girl I ever saw, said my opening line, had sex with her for 9 months, photographed and videotaped it all, got her back with her father, got her to divorce her husband, and then lost her. And sazc says my opening line was "so beta" and that this girl deliberately tried to hurt me 9 months later - because she hated my opening line (that celebrated her and criticized older women like sazc). This is preposterous.
Sazc, you are a proven liar. You already said "I only said (you both made a cute couple) because I didn't want to hurt your feelings, but you are extremely beta".
You're a new SS Hero. Beta Girl. We need to get you a rainbow colored cape with the words Safe Space on it.
Sazc, you are a proven liar. You already said "I only said (you both made a cute couple) because I didn't want to hurt your feelings, but you are extremely beta".
You're a new SS Hero. Beta Girl. We need to get you a rainbow colored cape with the words Safe Space on it.
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Lol,vyea, I'm taking about the girl that was such a sloot she gave you her cootchie day ONE, just like she did a bunch of other guys before, and during, you. The sloot you decided to LTR, you "alpha" you. The bpd that still has you pining over her. The one that strung you along for a long time, using you for money and trading for compensation what she knows to trade, her snatch. Yep, her, that's the one!As much as you hate this: I dumped her. Want to bet me $1000 and have readers vote on our last text conversation?
Dropping the bomb 9 months later?? You wish, grandma.
You call me beta and yet you think you know every nuance of my last relationship?
BTW you seem to think the word beta has deep meaning. Any woman over 40 is beta and you know it.
Here is what sazc wishes she looked like:
She had you werked! Still does! Lol
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I'm on my phone you moron, don't really feel like combing over my text to make sure it is perfect. Get over it Grandpa
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I'm not a liar. I'm someone that doesn't like to go out of my way hurting people's feelings. At the time that I said you were a cute couple, you had messaged me desperately seeking validation. I like to help wounded animals.
Then you decided to become a total prick to me for no reason. I don't suffer a$$holes.
Btw, I fibbed about your pictures as well. They are CONSISTENTLY bad to mediocre. On occasion there is a good one, but that is rare. You are certainly not a 'professional' photographer.
As well, i agree with @RichardTheFrog . You are a borderline pedophile. You specifically target young strippers because you know they most likely have issues and they will be easier to groom.
You DO realize that you bring up your ex stripper as much as possible on these boards, right? (just like you went on and fvcking on about your personal trainer FOREVER) You are classic BPD discarded trash. She hooked you and tossed you and you cant let go because she werked you. lol.
Must suck to be you. Im not talking about the fact that you date stripper toddlers, I've covered that. I'm talking about that insanely huge empty hole in your soul that you try to fill by posturing on these boards. yes, it's clearly evident.
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I love this type of dystopian thinking..... because it is our true future.
sazc has had steam coming out her ears ever since I told you I seduced a 20 year old beauty queen last September. She's like 55 and her photo rated in the 20's.
She confessed to lying to me in my PM "to make me feel better".
Now, pure venom.
Men, as a member here for 11 years, never trust female members on SS. They openly admit to being lying, conniving b!tches. I'll bet any member $1000 I can prove she lied in writing. F*ck her. Not with your penis of course.
Then after you have sex with the hottest women of your life, while taking the polar opposite of the advice she provides with clenched fists, from her Obamaphone, of your life they say "sucks to be you". They only wish! Those old fatties.
She confessed to lying to me in my PM "to make me feel better".
Now, pure venom.
Men, as a member here for 11 years, never trust female members on SS. They openly admit to being lying, conniving b!tches. I'll bet any member $1000 I can prove she lied in writing. F*ck her. Not with your penis of course.
Then after you have sex with the hottest women of your life, while taking the polar opposite of the advice she provides with clenched fists, from her Obamaphone, of your life they say "sucks to be you". They only wish! Those old fatties.
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lol, steam.... because of a random stranger and his stripper hookup? uh-huh
And there you go, twisting my words again, like you twist everyones words.
I didnt say sucks to be you because you dipped your d1ck in a stripper vag, I said sucks to be you because your incessant need to posture on these boards reveals how lonely, desparate nad lacking in self esteem you are.
I haven't lied about anything. I don't need to. I'm a professional, grateful for my looks, fit, and fvcking happy with my life! But your contradictory posts and backtracking reveal that you lie consistently. Ah yes, I am not the only one who has noticed.
Again with the need to be the attention wh0re on the boards, eh?
Again, I have better things to do. peace out
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Men are making rational choices based on what is out there. IMO what we are seeing are intelligent choices! There are two classes, one I call "Failure to Launch." These are the young guys living in their parents basement.
The other group are older guys, what I call High Achieving Men Opt Out Syndrome ." These guys went after education, careers, families and then got ****ed over by the system. I actually created this category based upon interviews with some of the vest on this board.
The condition of modern western man is something I term marginalized.
Marginalization is a process of social detachment of people from social relations and institutions and the preventing of them from full participation in the normal activities of the society in which they live.1
The War of the Sexes is over. Men lost. Today’s world has witnessed the rise of women over men. The world of the future is one where women will be outperforming men in nearly all areas. Do not take my word for it, just look at the demographic data and the word of many other experts.
Hyper-Achieving Women, Underachieving Men. “Women have moved from naturally complementary, to competitive, to conquering the men in their lives.” 2
This transition has been described as a “New Girl Order.”3
Men today are facing a crisis. We are portrayed in the media and the intellectual world as under-performing miscreants unfit to assume leadership or any other role in society.
There is an increasing inequality between men and women. Women are regarded as much more competent. According to one scholar: "Women are not equal to men; they are superior in many ways, and in most ways that will count in the future.”4 Being born a male is "a birth defect" he concludes. Another pundit claims that science proves women are superior to men.5
In a 2011 article, Lazerus explains “Why Women Are the Superior Gender.” In a break down of nine critical measures of success, Lazerus concludes that women are superior in nearly every way. In “a true battle of the sexes, the smart move would be to bet on the women.” “Even narrow-minded, conservative misogynists can't ignore the facts all the time.”6 Lazerus, Konner, and Jensen are engaging in what looks a lot like hate speech.
Hate speech is speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, disability, or gender. Hate speech in my opinion is despicable, but people get a pass if the target is men.
Lazerus’ self loathing is consistent with media perceptions of men, and ultimately with the way men perceive themselves. This view explains why a growing number of young men are becoming unwilling to enter into their traditional social roles, like being fathers, husbands, or career-driven providers.7
Many men are simply opting out, not pursuing higher education, careers, families, and leadership roles. Why go though the trials and tribulations inherent in these roles if our society considers them to be unimportant?
1 Silver, 2007
2 Waters, 2011
3 Hymowitz, 2007
4 Konner, 2015: “Women After All: Sex, Evolution and the End of Male Supremacy.
5 Jensen, 2015
6 Lazerous, 2011
7 Johnson, 2016)
The other group are older guys, what I call High Achieving Men Opt Out Syndrome ." These guys went after education, careers, families and then got ****ed over by the system. I actually created this category based upon interviews with some of the vest on this board.
The condition of modern western man is something I term marginalized.
Marginalization is a process of social detachment of people from social relations and institutions and the preventing of them from full participation in the normal activities of the society in which they live.1
The War of the Sexes is over. Men lost. Today’s world has witnessed the rise of women over men. The world of the future is one where women will be outperforming men in nearly all areas. Do not take my word for it, just look at the demographic data and the word of many other experts.
Hyper-Achieving Women, Underachieving Men. “Women have moved from naturally complementary, to competitive, to conquering the men in their lives.” 2
This transition has been described as a “New Girl Order.”3
Men today are facing a crisis. We are portrayed in the media and the intellectual world as under-performing miscreants unfit to assume leadership or any other role in society.
There is an increasing inequality between men and women. Women are regarded as much more competent. According to one scholar: "Women are not equal to men; they are superior in many ways, and in most ways that will count in the future.”4 Being born a male is "a birth defect" he concludes. Another pundit claims that science proves women are superior to men.5
In a 2011 article, Lazerus explains “Why Women Are the Superior Gender.” In a break down of nine critical measures of success, Lazerus concludes that women are superior in nearly every way. In “a true battle of the sexes, the smart move would be to bet on the women.” “Even narrow-minded, conservative misogynists can't ignore the facts all the time.”6 Lazerus, Konner, and Jensen are engaging in what looks a lot like hate speech.
Hate speech is speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, disability, or gender. Hate speech in my opinion is despicable, but people get a pass if the target is men.
Lazerus’ self loathing is consistent with media perceptions of men, and ultimately with the way men perceive themselves. This view explains why a growing number of young men are becoming unwilling to enter into their traditional social roles, like being fathers, husbands, or career-driven providers.7
Many men are simply opting out, not pursuing higher education, careers, families, and leadership roles. Why go though the trials and tribulations inherent in these roles if our society considers them to be unimportant?
1 Silver, 2007
2 Waters, 2011
3 Hymowitz, 2007
4 Konner, 2015: “Women After All: Sex, Evolution and the End of Male Supremacy.
5 Jensen, 2015
6 Lazerous, 2011
7 Johnson, 2016)
High Achieving Men Opt Out Syndrome
I questioned 5 successful men who were all painfully divorced by their first wife’s and became part of the seduction community, 2 were from this forum, Desdinova and I think taiyuu_otoko
All 5 are well educated professionals and also moderators or respected members of various seduction boards.1 All 5 will never marry again but always have young attractive women in their life. They have learned how to manipulate the system to their benefit. These are men who would make outstanding fathers and husbands, would be role models in their community, but have opted out. Who is hurt by this phenomena? Everyone.
The best and brightest men who make it to the seduction community learn the truth about the modern world. That truth is that traditional male roles are extremely difficult to sustain, and at the same time have very little value. If we look at marriage in terms of risk vs reward, it is simply a bad deal. These men are high earning high achievers. They master seduction skills to supply a steady diet of young and attractive women. One I interviewed, a successful attorney, will not date women over 27. He is in his forties. He tends to have an unending series of short to moderate length (2 to 6 months) relationships. As of this writing, his new girlfriend is 23.
These men claim to understand the reality of modern romance. Pursuing traditional male roles leads to pain, bankruptcy and sorrow. These men want nothing to do with families or children.
I questioned 5 successful men who were all painfully divorced by their first wife’s and became part of the seduction community, 2 were from this forum, Desdinova and I think taiyuu_otoko
All 5 are well educated professionals and also moderators or respected members of various seduction boards.1 All 5 will never marry again but always have young attractive women in their life. They have learned how to manipulate the system to their benefit. These are men who would make outstanding fathers and husbands, would be role models in their community, but have opted out. Who is hurt by this phenomena? Everyone.
The best and brightest men who make it to the seduction community learn the truth about the modern world. That truth is that traditional male roles are extremely difficult to sustain, and at the same time have very little value. If we look at marriage in terms of risk vs reward, it is simply a bad deal. These men are high earning high achievers. They master seduction skills to supply a steady diet of young and attractive women. One I interviewed, a successful attorney, will not date women over 27. He is in his forties. He tends to have an unending series of short to moderate length (2 to 6 months) relationships. As of this writing, his new girlfriend is 23.
These men claim to understand the reality of modern romance. Pursuing traditional male roles leads to pain, bankruptcy and sorrow. These men want nothing to do with families or children.
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Failure to Launch Syndrome, these are the young guys
Failure to Launch syndrome is different from the divorced men opt out phenomena. These are not high achieving men who lost their families. These are men who never started careers or families to begin with. To put a finer point on the problem, why are so many 30 year old men abdicating their societal roles for a life on the couch in their parents basement?
Today, millions of men sit at home in pajamas, “their moms serving breakfast, while spending the day playing computer games, cooking up half-baked business plans, or vegging out with a six-pack in front of the TV.”1
67% of marriage age Millennial men are not married. “The inability to provide makes family formation less likely.”2 These men are permanently behind the rest of the work force and never catch up. Their prolonged adolescence marches straight into old age.3
Young (and not so young) men are “failing to launch” and I am not sure if I can blame them. If we look at older men who do “launch,” who build careers and families, they often have their world destroyed, either through divorce or unhappy and unloving relationships.
The reason is that given the set of choices our society is offering, it is simply not worth the effort to build a career, marry and start a family. Why? Because chances are all your plans and hard work will fail. It does not matter how hard you work. It does not matter if you are a good husband and father. Even if you were lucky and your family survived our cultural onslaught upon men, these roles are not valued in our current society.
Why would an intelligent creature put his heart, soul, blood, sweat, and tears into something that can easily be taken away? And that is not counting all the men who stay in bad (IE unloving) marriages.
1Yarrow, 2015
2 Ibid
3 Bureau of Labor Statistics’ time-use data as c.f. by Yarrow, 2015
Failure to Launch syndrome is different from the divorced men opt out phenomena. These are not high achieving men who lost their families. These are men who never started careers or families to begin with. To put a finer point on the problem, why are so many 30 year old men abdicating their societal roles for a life on the couch in their parents basement?
Today, millions of men sit at home in pajamas, “their moms serving breakfast, while spending the day playing computer games, cooking up half-baked business plans, or vegging out with a six-pack in front of the TV.”1
67% of marriage age Millennial men are not married. “The inability to provide makes family formation less likely.”2 These men are permanently behind the rest of the work force and never catch up. Their prolonged adolescence marches straight into old age.3
Young (and not so young) men are “failing to launch” and I am not sure if I can blame them. If we look at older men who do “launch,” who build careers and families, they often have their world destroyed, either through divorce or unhappy and unloving relationships.
The reason is that given the set of choices our society is offering, it is simply not worth the effort to build a career, marry and start a family. Why? Because chances are all your plans and hard work will fail. It does not matter how hard you work. It does not matter if you are a good husband and father. Even if you were lucky and your family survived our cultural onslaught upon men, these roles are not valued in our current society.
Why would an intelligent creature put his heart, soul, blood, sweat, and tears into something that can easily be taken away? And that is not counting all the men who stay in bad (IE unloving) marriages.
1Yarrow, 2015
2 Ibid
3 Bureau of Labor Statistics’ time-use data as c.f. by Yarrow, 2015
Women are driven to want marriage by their biology. College and society do everything they can to remove this evolutionary imperative, but it is hardwired into their brains.
Maybe a woman over 27 won't give him the time of day.
How do you know the girls don't 'break it off' with him after 2-6 months because they find another sugar daddy?
A 45 year old experienced man having sexual relations with a 23 year girl who just graduated college? That's not a relationship, that's a mistress.
Or these men don't know how to get married and get a woman pregnant.
What does our 'government policy making' have to do with 'unlimited female sexual partners.'? The way a man looks, his height, his hair, his dress, his education, his friends, his overall presentation has nothing to with what a government decides to do. Imagine a man going to the top actress in Hollywood, 'hey, our government said women get 50% in a divorce, now come sleep me.'
Brutal.
Peace and Quiet
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.