Have Western Woman Been Morally Corrupted Intentionally?

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The obvious first question I have is, do you believe woman in the western world are infact morally corrupt?

If so, could this be an intentional situation created by big government and the media?

Nearly every empire throughout history has faced a huge moral decline, near to it's end and then total collapse..

This would include promiscous behaviour on the increase, orgies, rape, child abuse, sex slavery, also a massive devide between the rich and the poor.

We see today the use of porn massively on the increase, child abuse is almost an epidemic.. gambling and greed is promoted on a daily basis..

Violent crime and rape also on the increase.. the list goes on.


I often have the feeling our media actively promotes immoral lifestyle and values upon us.. and most major media outlets are now owned by a handful of big co operations..

You thoughts?
I think most agree here that men lead, or should do so. The sexual revolution was first led by men. We declined to maintain the moral order for sexual freedom. And free love seemed great.... until mainstream feminism came along.

Because men had largely squandered their leadership role for sex, women sought to fill the vacuum. And they could do so because sex had become so important to us. What was the whole Rock and Roll movement but a call of the Sirens.
 

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This Disney mentality about women being perfect Angels until the 60s needs to die off. May I suggest to you "Adam and Eve". Who caused Adam to disobey God? A woman! All this shvt we complain about today happened in our parents, great grandparents, great great grandparents, and so on. It's just more apparent today because we are alive right now and we only see nostalgic images of the past.
 

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Western women have definitely been morally corrupted. But so have western men. Like Augustus_McRae said, destroying the family is huge.
Some have said that governments use religion to control the people. I think what we're seeing now is the government setting itself up as a religion for the people.
But it's been women who have broken the families. Women initiate 70% of divorces, but end only 50% of relationships. Most men would stay with the mother of their children but the mother wants another guy, usually a hotter guy physically, proving they sold their kids out for c0ck.

I've always wondered if the men returning from WWI, WWII, and Vietnam became tougher and more manlier from the things they experienced while away. I was fortunate enough to know many WWII and Vietnam vets, they are all pretty tough guys. Nothing feminine about these men. I don't see that with today's millennial men.
Yes, and note that tens of thousands of men died in those wars? That was the old form of feminism - kill all the young men. Funny how the same forces that own the media started the wars...
 

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But it's been women who have broken the families. Women initiate 70% of divorces, but end only 50% of relationships. Most men would stay with the mother of their children but the mother wants another guy, usually a hotter guy physically, proving they sold their kids out for c0ck.

Yes, and note that tens of thousands of men died in those wars? That was the old form of feminism - kill all the young men. Funny how the same forces that own the media started the wars...
Speaking very, very generally here:
When it comes to things like honor and morality, women tend to be weaker than men, because they tend to follow men's lead there. Like Columbus said, men have to lead by setting the standards. Trainwreck mentioned Adam and Eve. Eve gave in to the temptation first, but Adam (who followed along) took most of the heat because he was the head of the operation. Women initiate the divorces, but men have set up the welfare system, legal system, and no fault divorce laws that encourage her to do that.

I do NOT believe that women operate wholly by emotion, and are incapable of using logic. I think that's one of the most ignorant assertions of the manosphere. Women wouldn't even be able to function if they were incapable of logic. But they do tend more toward emotion than men do, obviously. To what degree is another question.

Regarding wars, men usually start wars. It's the testosterone.
 

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But it's been women who have broken the families. Women initiate 70% of divorces, but end only 50% of relationships. Most men would stay with the mother of their children but the mother wants another guy, usually a hotter guy physically, proving they sold their kids out for c0ck.
I would say that the situation of a mother with a "dutiful" husband/father (i.e., he acts the way that he is supposed to, not fooling around or prone to indolence, etc.) who leaves him, either for another man directly or for a hypothetical other man, is merely practicing hypergamic polyandry. She has spawn from husband #1 but feels that she could have done and still could do better going forward; this is what a woman is saying when she says "I just don't FEEL in love with my husband anymore". Evolutionarily speaking, this would allow her another set of genes with which to procreate, so long as she can coax husband #2 into being a dutiful father to the spawn of husband #1 - something that society loves to try and shame men into doing (see my recent post about the 15 reasons to date a single mommy).

Of course, in a proper partiarchal society, this would be a ridiculous proposition, and indeed such a woman would suffer severe consequences. Often it was the duty of the brother of a deceased man to take his sister-in-law as another wife, dutifully tending to his nieces/nephews (and one might imagine to the sexual needs of his sister-in-law). This is an evolutionarily stable arrangement as it continues on the genetic line of the common parents.

One could say that with the Welfare State, every bachelor is in essence bonded to every single mommy via confiscational taxation. I should say every bachelor who chooses to be a high producer rather than an early retiree who sees no point in continuing to bust a33 at the office just to pay more taxes.
 

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This Disney mentality about women being perfect Angels until the 60s needs to die off. May I suggest to you "Adam and Eve". Who caused Adam to disobey God? A woman! All this shvt we complain about today happened in our parents, great grandparents, great great grandparents, and so on. It's just more apparent today because we are alive right now and we only see nostalgic images of the past.
Isn't in interesting that all cultures have a birth story of the troubles of Man being released by a woman? Judaic (and by extension, Christian & Moslem) culture had Eve; Greek mythology has Pandora opening up her box that the gods had originally put all the ills of the world into, etc.
 

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You think men were more happy back in the 50's and 60's? They were probably more depressed then than they are now.
Nice post, agree with most of it, aside from a few minor quibbles. For one, I never got the impression that guys in the 50s and 60s were depressed. I don't see any reason to believe that they were. But I've heard a lot about women being depressed in those days. Apparently they were bored with being housewives and raising the children, and resented their lack of power and influence. You don't have to go much further back in time to get to the point where there were several generations living together, and as you said, in those days the grandparents took a more active part in watching the kids.

The other thing was you seemed to imply most of the quality women are in the big cities. I'm thinking women in big cities are more likely to be liberal feminists (the guys in big cities too, for that matter). But there is a lot of variety in the more urban areas, perhaps that is what you are experiencing. I don't live in Alabama, but I'm sure there are some fine, conservative thinking women in Bumblefvck.
 

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This Disney mentality about women being perfect Angels until the 60s needs to die off. May I suggest to you "Adam and Eve". Who caused Adam to disobey God? A woman! All this shvt we complain about today happened in our parents, great grandparents, great great grandparents, and so on. It's just more apparent today because we are alive right now and we only see nostalgic images of the past.
Sugar and spice, and everything nice!:p
 

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This Disney mentality about women being perfect Angels until the 60s needs to die off. May I suggest to you "Adam and Eve". Who caused Adam to disobey God? A woman! All this shvt we complain about today happened in our parents, great grandparents, great great grandparents, and so on. It's just more apparent today because we are alive right now and we only see nostalgic images of the past.
Disney is an obvious fantasy, and should not be what we have in mind when considering a more conservative era. I think what typifies the old world was the sense of a moral code between the sexes. There was a set of rules, by which one played the game. Or you could think of it as a dance. An order was given primacy, whereas today freedom [often abstract/ freedom from] is the [un] organizing principle.
 
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