girls are fu**ed seriously....

[marmel75]

Lol, Marmel this would WORK if we as Men had true power in the dating market..........we don't. Women dominate, control, and own today's dating market. A woman isn't going to go out of her way to prove shyt when she doesn't have to, remember, she has multiple messages awaiting in her POF/OKC inbox along with lines of guys trying to get with her.

Yes, and the majority are weak, desperate guys who will work overtime to show what a great guy they are...the kind she wants nothing to do with.

When she finds a guy that makes her work to show what a great woman she is, they stand out in a good way---he must be a guy who has a lot of woman because he is making me qualify myself to him...and that is very attractive to a woman...it's called maintaining your frame.

 

[Tenacity]

When she finds a guy that makes her work to show what a great woman she is, they stand out in a good way---he must be a guy who has a lot of woman because he is making me qualify myself to him...and that is very attractive to a woman...it's called maintaining your frame.

I'm sorry, it just doesn't work that way man. You can do that "be a challenge/I'm the Prize" stuff all day long in an attempt to try to make her "qualify" herself. Dude that stuff isn't going to work man, it doesn't work.

 

[marmel75]

I'm sorry, it just doesn't work that way man. You can do that "be a challenge/I'm the Prize" stuff all day long in an attempt to try to make her "qualify" herself. Dude that stuff isn't going to work man, it doesn't work.

It absolutely does. If you do it properly.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm sorry, it just doesn't work that way man. You can do that "be a challenge/I'm the Prize" stuff all day long in an attempt to try to make her "qualify" herself. Dude that stuff isn't going to work man, it doesn't work.

A woman that is truly interested in YOU and hasn't commoditized YOU it will work. And she will want to give you a reason to understand and trust her. I agree that for 98% of women it WILL NOT work because most guys to them are just a disposable and replaceable utility.

 

[marmel75]

A woman that is truly interested in YOU and hasn't commoditized YOU it will work. And she will want to give you a reason to understand and trust her. I agree that for 98% of women it WILL NOT work because most guys to them are just a disposable and replaceable utility.

It works because it makes you stand apart from most other guys she meets. Many guys take this mindset and take it to the exterme, and then say it doesn't work. There has to be a balance, but you have to give off a vibe you have options and don't need her.

She is also a disposable and replaceable utility.

 

[Tenacity]

A woman that is truly interested in YOU and hasn't commoditized YOU it will work. And she will want to give you a reason to understand and trust her. I agree that for 98% of women it WILL NOT work because most guys to them are just a disposable and replaceable utility.

So you guys are discussing the behavior of 2% of women in the market? You do realize that's 1 out of 50 women right? Let that sink in.......1 out of 50.

 

[Tenacity]

It works because it makes you stand apart from most other guys she meets. Many guys take this mindset and take it to the exterme, and then say it doesn't work. There has to be a balance, but you have to give off a vibe you have options and don't need her.

She is also a disposable and replaceable utility.

You can stand out, say you're the prize, be a challenge, and do all of that.........none of that is going to change anything. Like @mrgoodstuff said, you guys are talking about 2% of women. 1 out of 50 women. Lol, I mean it would be funny if this shyt wasn't so depressing.

 

[marmel75]

You can stand out, say you're the prize, be a challenge, and do all of that.........none of that is going to change anything. Like @mrgoodstuff said, you guys are talking about 2% of women. 1 out of 50 women. Lol, I mean it would be funny if this shyt wasn't so depressing.

You don't "say" anything. It's about the way you behave, the body language you give off and the mindset you have.

 

[Tenacity]

You don't "say" anything. It's about the way you behave, the body language you give off and the mindset you have.

Well, if this stuff works for you and you "magically" take a woman who is a rude bytch to everybody else (including many of her family members), but your super, duper, Don Juan, Be A Challenge/Be The Prize mentality makes her "magically" fall in line................then all power to you.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Well, if this stuff works for you and you "magically" take a woman who is a rude bytch to everybody else (including many of her family members), but your super, duper, Don Juan, Be A Challenge/Be The Prize mentality makes her "magically" fall in line................then all power to you.

You won't talk to her unless she is decent to you because you love and respect yourself.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It works when you are in high school/college when you are the king
on campus. But in the "sex and the city" matriarchal society, women will just move on to the next chump.

Let them. There's a lady for you who wants a man not just a chump.

 

[Tenacity]

Let them. There's a lady for you who wants a man not just a chump.

Where she at bruh?

 

[Tenacity]

You won't talk to her unless she is decent to you because you love and respect yourself.

That's just gonna cause me to be alone, by myself, jacking off for the rest of my life.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

That's just gonna cause me to be alone, by myself, jacking off for the rest of my life.

Lol. Maybe for a while.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

When I was in SF, it didn't even matter if I was the highest status guy in my circles.

I still took a lot of sh!t from HB 8's and up. With some of them, it was a constant frame battle all the way til the bitter end. It wasn't even enough that I was high value. I had to supplicate. But I refused. So I only ended up with a fraction of the women I could of had.

Now, that is being a high value guy IN THE CIRCLE. I can't imagine for a guy OUTSIDE the circle. 1000 sh!t tests, frame games galore, and ball busting behavior.

Of course, I got 100% compliance from 6's and 7's. But when you are around 8's and up, you feel like you are cheating yourself for settling.

But you ARE settling putting up with 8 and ups B's. Take a 7 and let her mold herself for you.

 

[evil_tomato]

Guys can we stay on topic with my current problem please.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Guys can we stay on topic with my current problem please.

Don't put up with a b1ches $h1t no matter how "fine" you think she is. Your standard for a 9 should the same standard you use for a 6. Like da dynamically said though, most 8 and up ARE corrupted. Is it really worth the taste of the rotten "fruit", I'm not so sure.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

And truth be told, the rise of feminism can be traced to the environmental lowering of testosterone, NOT the other way around. You think there would be any way in hell dudes with high T levels would allow this bullcrap to be passed into law and making rules and regulations that favor this idealogy? Hell fvck no. Feminism keeps growing because more and more men who are making decisions are doing so with high estrogen levels and low testosterone levels, literally causing them to have female thought processes instead of male ones and making emotional decisions instead of logical ones.

Or the opposite. Women are playing the sex card. Turning off the taps until they get what they want politically [talking mainstream here... not red-pill and slvtty behavior]. Now if the men were in control of their urges, there would have been a Mexican stand-off until the women caved. as it is, now the women in the mainstream have the power, and men are behaving like puppy dogs in order to get some. just another reading.

 

[Tenacity]

When I was in SF, it didn't even matter if I was the highest status guy in my circles.

I still took a lot of sh!t from HB 8's and up. With some of them, it was a constant frame battle all the way til the bitter end. It wasn't even enough that I was high value. I had to supplicate. But I refused. So I only ended up with a fraction of the women I could of had.

Now, that is being a high value guy IN THE CIRCLE. I can't imagine for a guy OUTSIDE the circle. 1000 sh!t tests, frame games galore, and ball busting behavior.

Of course, I got 100% compliance from 6's and 7's. But when you are around 8's and up, you feel like you are cheating yourself for settling.

The problem over here with black women, is that black women who are HB5s and HB6s, seem to put up just as much (or MORE) shyt and other B.S. tests as the women who are HB8 and up.

 

[bigneil]

I'm sorry, it just doesn't work that way man. You can do that "be a challenge/I'm the Prize" stuff all day long in an attempt to try to make her "qualify" herself. Dude that stuff isn't going to work man, it doesn't work.

It absolutely does. If you do it properly.

Women are playing the sex card. Turning off the taps until they get what they want politically [talking mainstream here... not red-pill and slvtty behavior]. Now if the men were in control of their urges, there would have been a Mexican stand-off until the women caved. as it is, now the women in the mainstream have the power, and men are behaving like puppy dogs in order to get some. just another reading.

Twenty long days ago my favorite girl tried turning off the taps until she got what she wanted, I controlled my urge, and have had a Mexican stand-off ever since. Most men don't do this, so she has lots of other options. I can only hope that in the long run this experiment pays off, but it sucks, I won't lie.