Texting (Why You Shouldn't)

[BeTheChange]

We can disagree on tactics all day, but you're uttering pure falsehoods.

Women don't give a **** about you or any attention you give them until their feelings are involved. You can go jump off a bridge and she wouldn't care. You don't engage a woman's feelings by being her gay male girlfriend or her text buddy. You build attraction, which is done in person then and in her time away from you. Texting destroys her attraction. She can't miss you if you're texting her, guy.

Women do not care how much you like them. This is the biggest falsehood in your post. Your interest level and investment in her is irrelevant. Women care about their interest, not yours.

Let's agree to disagree. You can keep your cartoon character understanding of the world.

 

[VladPatton]

You CAN try to not text. All the luck to you for getting her to pick up the phone.

 

[EyeBRollin]

You CAN try to not text. All the luck to you for getting her to pick up the phone.

Thanks.

Let's agree to disagree. You can keep your cartoon character understanding of the world.

You can keep blowing leads with your texting addiction.

 

[Tenacity]

We can disagree on tactics all day, but you're uttering pure falsehoods.

Women don't give a **** about you or any attention you give them until their feelings are involved. You can go jump off a bridge and she wouldn't care. You don't engage a woman's feelings by being her gay male girlfriend or her text buddy. You build attraction, which is done in person then and in her time away from you. Texting destroys her attraction. She can't miss you if you're texting her, guy.

Women do not care how much you like them. This is the biggest falsehood in your post. Your interest level and investment in her is irrelevant. Women care about their interest, not yours.

Bruh, you are wrong on this one.........trust me lol. Stand down bruh lol.

 

[devilkingx2]

No woman has ever slept with a guy because he was great at texting. (If she has, show me.)

I actually do waaaaaay better over text than irl. I've gotten girls to go out with me over text that would barely give me the time of day irl.

 

[devilkingx2]

Talking on land lines

landlines? why don't you send her a telegraph or message her on aol instant messenger, post something on her myspace page lol.

 

[Tenacity]

EXACTLY. When you are good looking and have high value/status, you can treat women (even the hottest) like human beings and communicate with them normally. Why is this so hard for guys to understand? You don't have to be top secret James Bond (unless you are severely over-compensating for being ugly and low value).

SexPDX all the way back from 2003 who took a Juggler (Wayne Elise) bootcamp already destroyed the whole "be a challenge" theory. That whole being a challenge thing needs to be removed from the Don Juan bible. A high value man is automatically a challenge because he has abundance. And he can do whatever he wants to women because he has nothing to lose. He has so many woman. He treats women like normal human beings. But instead of telling guys to be high value and have abundance, those stupid outdated posts tell guys to fake it and pretend to be spy agents who have to be secretive and elusive all the time. Does Brad Pitt needs to stop texting? It's all about being high value and having abundance, not pretending to be a challenge and playing stupid games.

100% correct. I've said before that guys should focus on building REAL confidence, rather than masking fake confidence. REAL confidence is only built through the fire of meeting women, getting rejected, getting accepted, getting heartbroken, breaking hearts, and perfecting your "style" in terms of meeting/managing women.

Same thing in terms of this "being a challenge" thing. Don't fake being a challenge, actually BE a challenge by having shyt to do in terms of your time to where you honestly DON'T have time to be around her all day. Damn, don't you have financial goals? Well, those are going to take 8 to 10 hours a day right there. Don't you have to workout? That's another hour of the day. Then when you add in eating, sleeping, personal stuff, and other recreation........you honestly only have a limited amount of time left for women in general.

Work on yourself and be the REAL thing. Women also aren't stupid, they know when you are faking it.

 

[devilkingx2]

EXACTLY. When you are good looking and have high value/status, you can treat women (even the hottest) like human beings and communicate with them normally. Why is this so hard for guys to understand? You don't have to be top secret James Bond (unless you are severely over-compensating for being ugly and low value).

SexPDX all the way back from 2003 who took a Juggler (Wayne Elise) bootcamp already destroyed the whole "be a challenge" theory. That whole being a challenge thing needs to be removed from the Don Juan bible. A high value man is automatically a challenge because he has abundance. And he can do whatever he wants to women because he has nothing to lose. He has so many woman. He treats women like normal human beings. But instead of telling guys to be high value and have abundance, those stupid outdated posts tell guys to fake it and pretend to be spy agents who have to be secretive and elusive all the time. Does Brad Pitt needs to stop texting? It's all about being high value and having abundance, not pretending to be a challenge and playing stupid games.

well it's like this, there's a video game series that I love that has a really deep and complex lore, within that lore there is a concept known as "mantling" to mantle something in-universe is to perfectly impersonate someone such that you two are indistinguishable, and thus due to the flexible laws of physics of the game universe you will actually become one and the same with that person (this basically means that if you act enough like one of their gods, you will become that god and gain their power, but it works with anyone or anything.)

I always saw most PUA tactics as a sort of "mantling" a high value male, you are to act so much like james bond, that nobody would really be able to tell you apart, and thus you will gain the success of james bond. act so much like someone who is better than you, that you become better than you.

I know it works, because before I even came on this website I decided that I should be more confident by jokingly acting overly arrogant and self absorbed all the time, these days I just do it all the time naturally, and when I meet new people I hear about how confident I am or how confident I sound all the time, because I have practiced sounding confident so much, that someone who does not know me cannot tell if I'm confident from experience or just blowing smoke, so they assume that I know exactly what I'm doing and talking about even when I'm just bull****ting, I mantled a more confident version of myself.

so if you act like a famous person, eventually people will start to believe that you're a movie star they've never heard of once you get the act down, and women will start to treat you like a D-list celebrity.

 

[BeTheChange]

Thanks.



You can keep blowing leads with your texting addiction.

Except I'm not.

This no text alpha caveman mentality is mainly spouted by guys who either haven't left their bedroom and are basing all their info off the DJ Bible or who are dumpster diving.

Minimal texting does not work on hot girls with options. Trust me. There will be enough alpha men pursuing them who will atleast pretend to be interested in their day to day lives.

If you don't think women care about your interest level you're not living in the real world. Players do so well because they feign interest. They treat her like she is the only girl in the world even when they are fvcking other women.

 

[lizardking82]

Texting makes it easier for me to spot the stupid/unworthy ones. Some girls look so good in the first part of texting, then they say something stupid and turn me off. Personally, she could be the hottest chick out there, there has been no case where a girl did not get me hard by texting first -> sex. If her image in my mind does not turn me on, she most probably ain't turnin' me on either.

I always think that stupid girls will be stupid in texting or real life the same; interested girls will be interested in texting or real life. It is practically the same shyt. In the end, you two are communicating anyways, just with another means. And texting saves time as well, you can do other things while texting.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Except I'm not.

This no text alpha caveman mentality is mainly spouted by guys who either haven't left their bedroom and are basing all their info off the DJ Bible or who are dumpster diving.

Minimal texting does not work on hot girls with options. Trust me. There will be enough alpha men pursuing them who will atleast pretend to be interested in their day to day lives.

If you don't think women care about your interest level you're not living in the real world. Players do so well because they feign interest. They treat her like she is the only girl in the world even when they are fvcking other women.

I can't show interest in a girls day to day life or she will think I'm stalking her.

Sucks for me, huh?

 

[EyeBRollin]

This no text alpha caveman mentality is mainly spouted by guys who either haven't left their bedroom and are basing all their info off the DJ Bible or who are ttdumpster diving.

That's a false ad hominem, and now you're anointing yourself more credible then provebn game principles. **** the entire DJ Bible, @BeTheChange knows best!

Minimal texting does not work on hot girls with options. Trust me. There will be enough alpha men pursuing them who will atleast pretend to be interested in their day to day lives.

You're clueless about a lot of things. Stop submitting to her frame. 99% of men aren't alpha, and that apparently includes this forum as well.

If you don't think women care about your interest level you're not living in the real world.

They don't and they never did. How can she care when she doesn't care? Your interest level has no affect on her interest level.

Players do so well because they feign interest. They treat her like she is the only girl in the world even when they are fvcking other women.

"Players" aka pickup artists can't keep women past 2 weeks. Scammers.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I actually do waaaaaay better over text than irl. I've gotten girls to go out with me over text that would barely give me the time of day irl.

Delusional. Why are you talking to women that barely give you the time of day?

 

[BeTheChange]

That's a false ad hominem, and now you're anointing yourself more credible then provebn game principles. **** the entire DJ Bible, @BeTheChange knows best!



You're clueless about a lot of things. Stop submitting to her frame. 99% of men aren't alpha, and that apparently includes this forum as well.



They don't and they never did. How can she care when she doesn't care? Your interest level has no affect on her interest level.



"Players" aka pickup artists can't keep women past 2 weeks. Scammers.

Bro I sincerely suggest you go out and actually make friends with men who get and keep women.

Everything I've said has been confirmed by my own experiences and those of friends who do very well with women. Not to mention several people on this forum. You, on the other hand, sound clueless.

When you grow up and leave your Mum's basement you will see a lot of these rules are nonsense.

In fact I'll show you a bona fide HB9 I had a date this week that broke pretty much every "alpha" rule on this forum.

• Didn't want to give out her number so I added her on Facebook (rule broken)
• Long text chat over Facebook (rule broken)
• Asked her if she "would like to go for a drink" rather than giving her the typical "alpha" nonchalant statement of "we should go for a drink some time
• Turned up on time for the date
• Paid for drinks

And the list goes on.

When you are high value and successful you aren't trying to "be alpha". You just treat people like human beings and have fun. It's not that complicated.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Bro I sincerely suggest you go out and actually make friends with men who get and keep women.

I don't need help in that arena.

Everything I've said has been confirmed by my own experiences and those of friends who do very well with women. Not to mention several people on this forum. You, on the other hand, sound clueless.

Lol. Everything I've said has the proof in the pudding. How many chicks asked you out this week? How many initiations did you get?

You haven't seen the light yet pal, but someday you might. Grow a spine and let these women chase you. Stop texting them.

 

[BeTheChange]

I don't need help in that arena.



Lol. Everything I've said has the proof in the pudding. How many chicks asked you out this week? How many initiations did you get?

You haven't seen the light yet pal, but someday you might. Grow a spine and let these women chase you. Stop texting them.

Lol whatever you say mate. Looks like no-one has liked your original post, which means people see through this garbage.

Have fun with your HB6s.

 

[Tenacity]

How many chicks asked you out this week? How many initiations did you get?

Chicks don't ask guys out man.......in my experience it's only be fat or ugly chicks that would directly approach me. Decent and hot looking women have always required my DIRECT approach, whether they were giving me non-verbal "cues" or not, most of the time there aren't any non-verbal "cues", especially with black women who routinely walk around with a pissed off look on their face.

 

[zekko]

If you don't think women care about your interest level you're not living in the real world. Players do so well because they feign interest. They treat her like she is the only girl in the world even when they are fvcking other women

Most of these PUA tactics seem to be geared toward creating distance between you and the girl. Don't text them, don't talk to them, make them miss you, don't GAF about them. That may be great advice for the guy whose problem is that he just gets way too gushy and overboard over these chicks, but that just has never been my problem. I mean it was when I was really young and a green as grass beginner, but I really think that not overdoing it is the first lesson you learn anyway.

A lot of players (as you say), go the complete opposite way. They love up on them like they're totally enthralled. Deesade made a post the other day how he makes them think they might have a chance for a relationship. That's all feigning interest, and not this creating distance stuff. The creating distance stuff just leads to things like Neil not seeing his dream girl for eight weeks or whatever it was (although she was acting up on him too).

Certainly after you bang the girl, you shouldn't have to keep finding ways of tricking her into liking you. Go be with her, have fun.

When you are high value and successful you aren't trying to "be alpha". You just treat people like human beings and have fun. It's not that complicated.

Yeah, this is part of giving value instead of taking value. Instead of being so caught up in ignoring the girl for fear she might think you have some interest in her and be repulsed by you. Or even worse, that she might find out what you're really like, and bam the game is up then.

I really think there are a lot of different approaches that can work, and that you should find one that fits your personality. So text, don't text, do whatever you want, but do it because YOU want to, not because Corey Wayne told you to.

You mentioned Facebook. I won't have a Facebook account myself, not my thing. But I can certainly see how some people might use it to their advantage, for sure.

 

[lizardking82]

When you are high value and successful you aren't trying to "be alpha"

In order to be, do not try to seem.

 

[Bingo-Player]

It's popping up on a lot of threads, particularly when offering advice to newer members. Some of the more established DJs and relationship gurus advise against it, citing basic sales principles. Why shouldn't you text?

It's really about the numbers and maximizing efficiency. The gurus that advocate against it are taking a sales approach, which means everything comes down to spending as much face to face time in front of a qualified buyer as possible. People are more likely to buy a product in person than over the phone, because it is much harder to dismiss something that is right in front of you.

You are the product. Your time and attention are currency.

This is true with dating. Texting is not an automatic disqualifier, but as many have already experienced, it doesn't actually increase your chance of sleeping with your prospect. It can (and often does) only hurt your chances. You aren't bedding any more women due to "text game" than you wouldn't already get. No woman has ever slept with a guy because he was great at texting. (If she has, show me.) In fact, you spend more time chit chatting it up with women who may have no intention of actually going out with you.

Save the phone for setting dates. If she can only get your attention in person, she'll be forced to either drop you, or go out with you.

As for interactions between dates, remember that scarcity increases value. She cannot miss you if she doesn't have the space to do so. Try ghosting in between dates and you'll notice her all over you the next time she goes out with you.

disagree

would never of banged a couple of chicks without a lot of texting experience / application

if you're not texting them its highly unlikely you will get the "i want to see you" text at 3am which BTW is the certified female mating call

if you arent texting then someone else will be simple as that

i will agree that daytime chit chat texts are a recipe for disaster , but time them correctly and they are worth they're weight in gold