Texting (Why You Shouldn't)

[mrgoodstuff]

These might be your numbers, but members should note that the average for a successful seducer (according to Louis/Copeland 2000):

* You get a date with 1 in 10 women you ask out.
* You have sex with 1 in 4 women who you date.
* You have sex with 1 in 40 women you ask out (not 6/40 like da).

It all depends. The actual numbers and ratios all depend. The key is in realizing that it is a numbers game and that your ratios and success can be improved. Also NOBODY bats at 100%.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

One day, this board will evolve to realize just how unnatural living in a big city and dating as a nomadic seducer is. You might get sex. But relationship wise, you will constantly get tested. And the women you are dating will end up with someone in their tribe ANYWAY. Even @bigneil admitted to this in his last relationship.

When you are not in a woman's tribe, you are literally getting screened for every little action you make. Evolution did not create us to be wondering nomads so dating is like a GLITCH where a woman cannot turn off her SCREENING MECHANISM!

That's right. There is a glitch in dating outside a social tribe that makes women screen you hardcore, while rarely screening a guy they end up with in their social tribes.

This glitch explains 99% of your dating problems and why you always feel like you are walking on eggshells.

Neil Strauss, aka Style, who wrote the book "The Game" once said that the dating glitch is that because we no longer operate in tribes, it is possible to fool women with game that you have status. This is fine if you are a LOSER.

But if you are a WINNER, the glitch works against you! Women who have a hard time identifying a loser and getting fooled by game will have an EQUALLY hard time identify a winner. Because winners are casual and don't overcompensate.

I can't tell you how many times I've been to social events where women ignored me, only to be attracted to me in broad day light when we are in the same social circle. My charm is subtle and I don't do anything out of the ordinary. This might make me invisible in night game compared to all the fake game players. It's like she was blinded by the "nomadic dating environment" and couldn't tell I had status until she saw me in a tribe.

When I realized there was a glitch in dating, I said "Screw this. I am ALWAYS going to put myself in social tribes from now on." For a high status guy, getting compliance in a tribe is almost effortless. But in the sexual market place, most women are confused because their brains aren't hardwired to operate in that environment!

It's just social proofing man. And it doesn't work on everyone, though it does work on most. Some folks will judge you individually based upon your interaction with them and don't care how "popular" you are in your crowd. And many others simply defer to the opinion of the group...

 

[RichardTheFrog]

One day, this board will evolve to realize just how unnatural living in a big city and dating as a nomadic seducer is. You might get sex. But relationship wise, you will constantly get tested. And the women you are dating will end up with someone in their tribe ANYWAY. Even @bigneil admitted to this in his last relationship.

When you are not in a woman's tribe, you are literally getting screened for every little action you make. Evolution did not create us to be wondering nomads so dating is like a GLITCH where a woman cannot turn off her SCREENING MECHANISM!

That's right. There is a glitch in dating outside a social tribe that makes women screen you hardcore, while rarely screening a guy they end up with in their social tribes.

This glitch explains 99% of your dating problems and why you always feel like you are walking on eggshells.

Neil Strauss, aka Style, who wrote the book "The Game" once said that the dating glitch is that because we no longer operate in tribes, it is possible to fool women with game that you have status. This is fine if you are a LOSER.

But if you are a WINNER, the glitch works against you! Women who have a hard time identifying a loser and getting fooled by game will have an EQUALLY hard time identify a winner. Because winners are casual and don't overcompensate.

I can't tell you how many times I've been to social events where women ignored me, only to be attracted to me in broad day light when we are in the same social circle. My charm is subtle and I don't do anything out of the ordinary. This might make me invisible in night game compared to all the fake game players. It's like she was blinded by the "nomadic dating environment" and couldn't tell I had status until she saw me in a tribe.

When I realized there was a glitch in dating, I said "Screw this. I am ALWAYS going to put myself in social tribes from now on." For a high status guy, getting compliance in a tribe is almost effortless. But in the sexual market place, most women are confused because their brains aren't hardwired to operate in that environment!

Now do you see why I want to make a lot of money and even buy a Bentley?

So that I appear to have status to strangers.

You still have not said what makes you so high value. It can't just be frame and attitude. There must be something tangible that allows you to act like a douche at times and get away with it. You must have SOMETHING.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

It is not about the messenger, it's about the message. You are the most dense person on this board. I already said if you were at least a 6, have a career, relatively cool to hang out with, and have a lot of social circles, you would have abundance.

So obviously I have all those things. Otherwise, how would I know those things work? It's not about 1 thing. It's about being well rounded (included having a lot of social circles and hobbies that actually has women in it).

You are putting too much stock in becoming superman and underestimating the power of simply having a lifestyle where you are surrounded by women.

So what I'm lacking is being cool to hang out with. I could see that.

Plus, even if I became millionaire superman, I still have the stalking charge in my past that brings my value way down.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Where people misunderstand me the most is that they think my "effortlessness" is a result of me being Superman. But it's the opposite! I realized that you can just be a normal, successful, and cool person and have SUPERMAN's success if you had more exposure to women in social tribes.

When I was in college I used to work as a bartender, at victoria secret, and as a club promoter. I got laid just because of proximity. This is the birth of all of @Listen_to_Olly 's theories (based on reading my experience, btw). The only difference between me and him is he's trying to tell grown men to work as bartenders.

There is another way to do it. Just have a lot of social circles with hot women. Spend more time mastering that, rather than stupid tactics.

The same male "6" who can accumulate 1000 rejections in the field can get 1000 lays if he was in the right situation (in social tribes where women screen less).

The whole board talks about how that 6 can be come a 7 or an 8 but never talks about how that 6 can put himself in the right situation. So then you have an entire board believing you have to be millionaire Brad Pitt.

Meanwhile, male 6's are getting laid all the time like there is no tomorrow.


This obsession with becoming superman just to bang HB 7's is unhealthy because their standards aren't that high! You are essentially putting easy slvtty women on a pedestal.

I entirely get what you're saying. My problem is logistics. I can't get hired ANYWHERE, let alone anywhere where women work due to my stalking charge. Plus, I rather enjoy working for myself and would make more money that way.

I think my only chance to get these hot women is to become a barfly and maybe talk about money sometimes.

How does your theory of putting yourself in their social circle explain your success with online dating?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Yeah I am that guy who only has to show up 1 day to have a complete monopoly on all the women. But it would be of very little value for people for me to talk about that because less than 1% of the entire male population can relate to me. So I strip the game down to the bare essentials.

If you are a male 6 and up, have solid social skills, and have a career, you don't have much to worry about in social circles. Unless I show up.

How can anything you do be worth more than starting a business or being a millionaire?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Listen man just understand that women aren't loyal. Even as the top guy, women feign interest to make themselves look brand new to me, and sleep with my friends who have lower status. They have their own game going on. It's not as black and white as the alpha dog gets all the pvssy. How do you know they are in my harem? What if I am in THEIR harem? That is closer to reality.

A woman can have a harem of guys who are 6's, 7,s and 8's, etc. You don't have to be Superman as I've said.

Okay. Well I think I need to drive a Bentley just to be in someone's harem.

What you just said is both upsetting and liberating.

Plus, I don't know where you're from, but in Orlando, FL, black guys are doing the best. Seems half the time I see an attractive girl when I'm out, 5 minutes later I see her with her black boyfriend.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Listen man just understand that women aren't loyal. Even as the top guy, women feign interest to make themselves look brand new to me, and sleep with my friends who have lower status. They have their own game going on. It's not as black and white as the alpha dog gets all the pvssy. How do you know they are in my harem? What if I am in THEIR harem? That is closer to reality.

A woman can have a harem of guys who are 6's, 7,s and 8's, etc. You don't have to be Superman as I've said.

Actually, let me correct myself. Driving a Bentley and getting real rich would make me seem narcissistic and may cause certain people to not want to hang out with me.

Would girls see me as having value or would they just try to use me? Probably depends on the girl.

But also, "entering social circles" in a lot of cases means hanging out with a bunch of scummy people who do drugs, etc. I spend 99.9% of my time alone. These types would resent me and try to rob me if I was rich.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Have you ever met with a woman for the first time on a first date, walked right up to her and the two of you just started kissing passionately before you even said "hello" to each other?
.

This would never happen to the likes of me. Yet, it nearly happened just this weekend when a woman locked eyes with me as I was walking through that bar, and I kind of just floated into her very. The conversation was very slow and almost non-existent. Sadly, a man came and pulled her away.....

I put it down to be having had a few social drinks, arriving at the bar with a good-looking buddy, me being in a very blasé, almost bored, yet present mood. I shall endeavor to replicate that 'inner game' next time I'm out.

 

[Solomon]

Why am I skipping steps? If a woman has high interest in me, we are going to ****. My closing rate is quite high. It's more of a question of when we ****. I'm not in a rush like most men. She'll either see me now or see me later. There is no need to speed up the process.




You have to enjoy it. I love approaching women, priming them, dining them, then closing them at my place a few weeks later. It's a hunt, and I'm a hunter.

Some guys rather smash the first night, to each it's own

amazing this thread triggered so many members

Like @Amante Silvestre there is more than one way to skin a cat