If the quality of women goes down as you get older, why do a lot of you say to get married WAY later

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

rollo once did a post on his blog about a man who was married to his wife, who was kind of frigid and prudish, they didn't have sex that much, she wasn't that into it when they did have sex, and she wasn't very kinky (no anal for example)

he finds out that she kept a video tape stored away with some of her things, so he pops it into the player and finds out that in college she was the kind of girl who'd get gangbanged in all her holes by 4 random guys and let them video tape it for free.

so the idea is, given the choice between these two guys, which would you rather be? (the answer is most likely neither since I doubt most guys want to bang one girl with 3 other guys around, but absolutely no one would rather be the cuck who gets to marry her after everyone else is done having the fun that you don't get to have)

the idea is that the beta she gets to settle down with has the raw deal because usually she isn't all that attracted to him and worse, she has to trick him into thinking that she's some good innocent girl which means making him wait til date 5 and refusing to be very kinky

Yeah I saw that one on Reddit. That got me fvcked up to think about, it just destroyed my psyche. I had to stop reading stories like those because it makes me just hate people and become more cruel along with them. I think the dude wanted to divorce her after that and she completely changed saying that she would do anything for him and to please not leave her. I hated reading that.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Bro, what does one thing have to do with another? Yes, women are better younger. Yes, if you are planning to get married, do it later. That has nothing to do with "get married early because women are better." Because woman are better in their 20s you have to sign a piece of paper to legally commit to them? You can easily have as much sex with them as possible when they are younger, doesn't mean you have to marry them.

We have never said "don't get married." We have said "get married if it benefits you." We have also never said "get married in your 40s or 50s." You can get married in your "20s and 30s" as long as it benefits you. Everything we say should benefit you before anyone else.

Then you haven't read the posts on this forum that I have. I have read SO many times where the guys here say to NEVER get married, UNLESS you are WAY older. They didn't say 'if it benefits you' because they said that there are no benefits. I just realized that yeah an older dude could marry a younger gal, but I'm just thinking how like someone else said, I've never seen it happen that way before.

 

[AJ84]

Of course not. The average age difference in married couples is 4 years.

Men who can date women half their age don't usually marry those women. They are old enough to know that next year they'll want to trade her in for a new model (not because the girl will get fat, which she will, but because she will get moody, unfaithful and more demanding).

So by next year a woman who is dating you gets fat, moody, unfaithful and more demanding? Or do you mean, that for all men, all women they begin dating, by next year, will be this way?

 

[bigneil]

So by next year a woman who is dating you gets fat, moody, unfaithful and more demanding? Or do you mean, that for all men, all women they begin dating, by next year, will be this way?

Let's see:

Girl A - Met 10/28/11 - Started getting fat by March 2012 (never got back in shape).
Girl B - Met 5/24/14 - Started getting fat by March 2015 (back in shape by October 2015)
Girl C - Met 8/18/16 - Started getting fat by December 2016 (back in shape by April 2016).

These were the 3 hottest strippers I ever dated - nearly 5 years combined.

Average age 20 when we met! They all got fat within 6 months on average!

They all get moody and unfaithful when they realize they have to work for a living.

 

[bigneil]

I've never seen it happen that way before.

Because older men are too smart to marry them.

We enjoy them in their prime like fresh peaches, and then discard them when we reach the pits. Women are a commodity. The door swings both ways (pardon the pun).

Marriage is a way for Beta males to mortgage a vagina that they will not get to enter as much as they think.

 

[AJ84]

Let's see:

Girl A - Met 10/28/11 - Started getting fat by March 2012 (never got back in shape).
Girl B - Met 5/24/14 - Started getting fat by March 2015 (back in shape by October 2015)
Girl C - Met 8/18/16 - Started getting fat by December 2016 (back in shape by April 2016).

These were the 3 hottest strippers I ever dated - nearly 5 years combined.

Average age 20 when we met! They all got fat within 6 months on average!

They all get moody and unfaithful when they realize they have to work for a living.

So, three 20 yr old hot strippers represent all women?

 

[bigneil]

So, three 20 yr old hot strippers represent all women?

Maybe if you weren't still a virgin we would have more examples.

 

[zekko]

You'd think strippers would take better care of their bodies, since that's where they earn their living.

I have read SO many times where the guys here say to NEVER get married, UNLESS you are WAY older.

I say never get married. It's too much of a risk ihe current legal climate, and you never know if someone might change 10 years down the road. And I'm one of the more pro-relationship posters here.

And that's a shame, because I think the nuclear family is best for the kids.

 

[The Duke]

You'd think strippers would take better care of their bodies, since that's where they earn their living.

$trippers rarely think past next week. Next week is long term planning for them. The all lack perspective and foresight. There are very few that take care of themselves, don't get caught up in the lifestyle, and have an exit plan out of $tripperville.

 

[BeExcellent]

Because nobody here is willing to admit they missed the boat early on when they were young & great girls worth marriage were far more abundant. I know many couples who were high school or college sweethearts who are still together, still happy, and proud of their marriages.

This is why taking advice from this forum at your age is perilous OP. At 18 years of age yourself, and with your awareness and ambition and perspective you are in the sweet spot. If you are going to get a great wife your best window of opportunity is within the next 5 years, maybe less. Why? Because that is when the girls in your age group WORTH marrying are pairing off.

There is a red pill blogger named Ironwood you would do well to search. He is married and gives very specific advise on finding a wife as a red pill man. As far as how to find a good woman his advice is the best I've seen. I will show my high school age son (and daughter) his material when they get older.

You have all these men saying date the young girls (Duh) and old guys can out compete the men who are her peers. That is largely BS. More power to you if you are (and some here do), but let's get real. Strippers are not as a group quality women. They just aren't. Only an idiot would marry one.

Almost none of the older men here are dating the top tier women in their 20s (the 8+ women feminine girls who are either virgins or very inexperienced as measured by partner count, who come from great families and are looking to build a lifetime together with a top tier young man.). Colossus married one and Desdinova seems to be dating one as an older guy.

Colossus is a physician or physicians assistant, so he had some serious value from that standpoint and Des is a highly sought after guy as well so these men maxed out their value & found great young women.

Beautiful feminine women from great families marry young men from great families almost without exception. The families mutually support the young couple and guide them. I have new renters in one on my nicest houses. They are a young married couple, both 20 years old. The husband is in the Navy and my rent house is in a nice area and happens to be across the street from his parents. They wanted my house precisely so that the wife can be near her in-laws and with family while the husband is at sea.

I know everyone here will say marriage ends in divorce! Don't do it!...Married couples aren't REALLY happy...Don't do it! And that is true some of the time.

But it isn't true ALL the time. Many men here know people with happy marriages. Most men here would give their left nut to have a great wife in their lives.

Very few people become successful. Does that mean everyone should give up & call it good? No although many do just that.

In the same way great marriages exist. I know MANY really happy married couples. Almost all got married young to someone of similar age. But if you believe the board you'll think it's never worth it.

That is a lie. An ego protecting belief because of failures at an individual level. There are great marriages all around. We all can observe that. It's not uncommon.

Marriage is not the problem. That's silly. The problem happens when you marry the wrong person (you didn't screen properly), or you yourself have too many issues & are not prepared to be married, or a combination of those 2 things. That's it.

So a man who is considering marriage & children (who require a woman to bear & who do best in a stable 2 parent household) needs to 1. Prepare himself and 2. Choose wisely.

Why would you allow your bright future to be jaded by a bunch of people who are old & bitter & jaded to varying degrees? You are still young & life is ahead of you. Many here have regret because of mistakes they made earlier in life and the painful lessons from those mistakes greatly color the opinions here.

Do not allow the opinions of other people to sour you. You can get prepared & then choose wisely.

The advice has value to be sure, but you must also understand that you can take the advice and reap the benefit of it without buying into the whole negative attitudes and self defeating recommendations that accompany the advice in many cases.

Find some happily married men & ask them. PM Colossus.

In 20 years you'll be 38. You will have happily married friends at that point who are going through life as a team. Do you still want to be childless, spinning women endlessly and risking your health on STDs worried about knocking up randoms? Or do you want to be helping your sons or daughters prepare for high school or college & be busy building your practice and your net worth and enjoying the fruits of wise choices in your youth?

You are young & the world is at your feet. Who will you be in 20 years? In 30? In 50?

Choose wisely and be true to what YOU want, because in 20 years nobody here is going to know or care what happened to you. Maybe you can be a legend who found happiness and success. In fact there is no reason you shouldn't be. It's up to you and you alone in the end.

 

[AJ84]

Maybe if you weren't still a virgin we would have more examples.

I think you're drawing your 'statistical analysis' from a specific female demographic and your own personal experiences.

My point, which I guess I have to spell out, is that you can't take your personal experiences with three women who, as strippers, in no way shape or form represent the average woman, let alone all women, and then assume three very specific behaviours you encountered with these women are a reflection of women the world over.

Even if you include me as a non virgin to expand your example to a wide range of four women.

 

[RangerMIke]

Of course not. The average age difference in married couples is 4 years.

Men who can date women half their age don't usually marry those women. They are old enough to know that next year they'll want to trade her in for a new model (not because the girl will get fat, which she will, but because she will get moody, unfaithful and more demanding).

Not only that, but if a man is single and in his 40-50s.... he is either a committed bachelor or he was already burned once in a marriage and isn;t doing it again.

I know one guy that is my age (50) that married a younger woman in her 20s.... He is a well respected neuro-surgeon... she is a gold digger I met once in a bar where I made out with her and her friend in the ladies room. This was 4 months after her marriage. She will make his life a living hell until he flips out and she divorces him for cash and prizes... Oh... and yea... she is smoking hot.

Another guy, has money a couple of businesses, very successful, again my age married a chick in her mid 30s. She wants kids, now she has one... I will be surprised if that marriage lasts another year. She will hit him up for child support and leave him... how do I know, I dated her, the minute she found out I had a vasectomy she moved onto happier hunting grounds.

SO yea... there are dudes in the 40s-50s that are dumb@sses, but they are the exception to the rule.

 

[bigneil]

I think you're drawing your 'statistical analysis' from a specific female demographic and your own personal experiences.

My point, which I guess I have to spell out, is that you can't take your personal experiences with three women who, as strippers, in no way shape or form represent the average woman, let alone all women, and then assume three very specific behaviours you encountered with these women are a reflection of women the world over.

Even if you include me as a non virgin to expand your example to a wide range of four women.

You are saying women don't gain weight after high school? Ever hear of the Freshman 15?


You are female, correct?

 

[devilkingx2]

Yeah I saw that one on Reddit. That got me fvcked up to think about, it just destroyed my psyche. I had to stop reading stories like those because it makes me just hate people and become more cruel along with them. I think the dude wanted to divorce her after that and she completely changed saying that she would do anything for him and to please not leave her. I hated reading that.

it had a happy ending because the dude basically told her to fvck off because he realized that the fact that he had to give her an ultimatum to get good sex meant that she wasn't truly into him so any efforts would be pointless.

 

[MatureDJ]

And this week I started dating a new HB8+ 20 year old. Does Olly, I mean Good Gao, I mean Trainwreck, I mean Olivia see this photo?

Cute face, but she looks like she has a good bit of fat around her waist.

 

[AJ84]

You are saying women don't gain weight after high school? Ever hear of the Freshman 15?


You are female, correct?

You mean the theory that students gain 15 lbs in the first two years of college? That study refers to students in general, I don't recall it stating female students specifically.

I think we are straying off the OP's question around marriage as an older man. You clearly have no interest in that, which works for you and that's great. Some guys want something different than life with a string of strippers. Perhaps they can provide some insight around waiting until he's older to go married. Someone posted a good point earlier about getting married if it benefits you, whether you do that in your 20s or 50s.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I believe at some point is no longer about love and passion, not even sex probably...its just about stability and some form of security.

Personally the only reason I can find is that I would never feel sure enough to buy a dog while single, what is something happens to me? I would be concerned about the dog 24/7

A woman who is a left over (because honestly unless her hubby died a single 50yrs old woman is a left over) at least grant you the luxury or relaxing (more or the less).

 

[bigneil]

Some guys want something different than life with a string of strippers.

Not Hugh Hefner or myself.

 

[bigneil]

Cute face, but she looks like she has a good bit of fat around her waist.

Nice guess, but you can't see her waist. She is 5'4" 120 lb.

 

[The Duke]

Not Hugh Hefner or myself.

Even Hugh had struggles with females!