How Damaging Is Porn Addiction?

[wifehunter]

Jesus died on the cross to pay for the sins of mankind. So all the sin attached to Adam and Eve, was paid and people were set free of guilt.

Well that's halfway true, Christ paid for the sins of HIS sheep aka his church...goats, that belong to satan, are going to burn forever.

See Matthew 25 on "the Sheep and the goats"

 

[corrector]

Jesus died on the cross to pay for the sins of mankind. So all the sin attached to Adam and Eve, was paid and people were set free of guilt. Being obsessed with being taken over by demons is actually demonic in itself. It is out of balance. If you are out of balance and unhappy your weakness will attract demonic attacks.

Nobody is obsessed with being taken over by demons. You don't worry about turbulence on an airplane if you don't fly.

If you engage in an activity that exposes yourself to demonic attack, and, you get demonically attacked, then, you should worry enough not to engage in such an activity, whatever the activity is.

In my case, I can only define a serious demonic attack in terms of visiting a prostitute since I don't do drugs and I'm not involved with the occult and I don't hang out with anyone that could lead me into vices. I can define minor demonic attacks in terms of viewing porn, looking at an IMAX-3D movie or visiting a movie theater and being to mentally involved into the movie itself, and in these issues there is just a bit of trouble falling asleep or feel a bit of turbulence (i.e. anxiety, etc...), but afterwards everything is okay within 24 hours. During that time, you know something doesn't feel right in your gut. The last serious attack (after seeing a prostitute, whose working name was Bianca who came from Brazil and came into Canada 2 months and spoke Spanish, was wearing something red, had nice long black hair and collected $ 60 from me to use the washroom) had me out for a month. No amount of repentance, seeking God of forgiveness, etc... AFTER seeing a prostitute could erase the memory of seeing the prostitute and it just came back over and over again at the time.

Whatever the motivation is for not viewing porn should not be relevant, as long as it does the job. Personally, because the attacks are too minor, that's not enough of a reason for me not to look at porn in and of itself. At the end of the day, a decision is made not to look at it period because it's wrong, and that's that.

 

[corrector]

Well that's halfway true, Christ paid for the sins of HIS sheep aka his church...goats, that belong to satan, are going to burn forever.

See Matthew 25 on "the Sheep and the goats"

The Bible says: 1 John 2:2 "He is the propituation for our sins, and not ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life".

Anybody reading this can be believe in Jesus and be saved based on the wording of these verses. As long as you are not actually dead and burning in hell, right now, the good news is there is hope. God has kept you alive for a reason. Your eternal fate can change. You can choose Jesus and not end up in hell.

 

[Plums]

Nobody is obsessed with being taken over by demons. You don't worry about turbulence on an airplane if you don't fly.

If you engage in an activity that exposes yourself to demonic attack, and, you get demonically attacked, then, you should worry enough not to engage in such an activity, whatever the activity is.

In my case, I can only define a serious demonic attack in terms of visiting a prostitute since I don't do drugs and I'm not involved with the occult and I don't hang out with anyone that could lead me into vices. I can define minor demonic attacks in terms of viewing porn, looking at an IMAX-3D movie or visiting a movie theater and being to mentally involved into the movie itself, and in these issues there is just a bit of trouble falling asleep or feel a bit of turbulence (i.e. anxiety, etc...), but afterwards everything is okay within 24 hours. During that time, you know something doesn't feel right in your gut. The last serious attack (after seeing a prostitute, whose working name was Bianca who came from Brazil and came into Canada 2 months and spoke Spanish, was wearing something red, had nice long black hair and collected $ 60 from me to use the washroom) had me out for a month. No amount of repentance, seeking God of forgiveness, etc... AFTER seeing a prostitute could erase the memory of seeing the prostitute and it just came back over and over again at the time.

Whatever the motivation is for not viewing porn should not be relevant, as long as it does the job. Personally, because the attacks are too minor, that's not enough of a reason for me not to look at porn in and of itself. At the end of the day, a decision is made not to look at it period because it's wrong, and that's that.

Your reply makes no sense at all. It is full of contradictions because you are avoiding the truth. You are not able to view your issues in a balanced way because your ego is refusing to accept you have problems that are more significant than you suggest. You need to get help from someone who can help you make sense of your thoughts and feelings. Good luck with that.

 

[wifehunter]

The Bible says: 1 John 2:2 "He is the propituation for our sins, and not ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life".

Anybody reading this can be believe in Jesus and be saved based on the wording of these verses. As long as you are not actually dead and burning in hell, right now, the good news is there is hope. God has kept you alive for a reason. Your eternal fate can change. You can choose Jesus and not end up in hell.

Whole world = all the nations, not just israel.

There will be people in hell, as there is, right now, as we speak. Scary stuff.

See:

 

[corrector]

Your reply makes no sense at all. It is full of contradictions because you are avoiding the truth. You are not able to view your issues in a balanced way because your ego is refusing to accept you have problems that are more significant than you suggest. You need to get help from someone who can help you make sense of your thoughts and feelings. Good luck with that.

What contradictions are you talking about? Point to any two sentences that I have wrote that are opposed to each other under the same post.

 

[wifehunter]

Has the corrector, been corrected?

The irony is like chocolate....

good chocolate!

 

[Plums]

What contradictions are you talking about? Point to any two sentences that I have wrote that are opposed to each other under the same post.

You talk about being taken over by demons, in your first or second post and then go on to state that you are not. You also talk about the sin of porn and then go on to say that it does no harm and serves a purpose.
You cannot hide your problems by quoting from the bible. You are disrespecting it to so so. Obviously the words have no real meaning for you because use them defensively.
You need to simplify your thoughts.
Look for actual problems that need solutions and don't avoid doing this by creating a lot of false problems to hide behind.
If you are taking any substances that interfere with your ability to have coherent thoughts, you need to detox from those. Otherwise you will not find balance.
Basically you need to be fighting fit to face those demons that obviously torture you and defeat them.

 

[corrector]

You talk about being taken over by demons, in your first or second post and then go on to state that you are not.

A demonic attack does not mean you are being taken over by demons though. I think there is a misunderstanding. I'm still in the process of learning to differentiate between a mental illness, a demonic attack or an outright invasion (i.e. what you believe is being taking over by demons, or fear of being taken over by demons), or both.

What occurred in December, 2014 is referenced as a case in issue when I'm talking about, what I believe was a demonic incursion. I have written threads about this incident before in 2015 and believed most people on here already knew about this story. So there is some background you are missing.

I visited a prostitute (Suzy) on December 4, 2014 (i.e. very softcore, just danced with her and hugged her and kissed her (face) cheeks passionately and felt her hair and looked at her vag like I was a kid and looking at that for the first time), and on the following day went to another incall center but chickened out, and then saw a second prostitute (Bianca) on December 5, 2014, (i.e. some hardcore stuff went on this time). The following day, on December 6, 2014, all hell broke lose and I believed I was being attacked by a gang of devils, animalistic devils. The shock-wave of this lead to loss of appetite, unable to sleep, waking up at night in a cold-sweat with heart beating fast, unable to drive, feeling like i was going to go crazy. The most severe symptoms lasted for about a week. More milder/moderate symptoms (i.e. have an appetite back and can eat a hamburger, etc..., and drive to some places, etc...) lasted for about the rest of the month. It was a daily battle getting back to normal, driving, having a normal appetite, etc... It was so bad at some point I could not eat pancakes or anything too solid in the morning and it was a struggle to eat. There were also times I'd just stare straight into space.

Now, fast forward the next year (2015), when I was getting back to normal, I still occasionally felt vertigo.

Okay, you get the idea. I'm talking about that incident. I don't know exactly what "that" is. Mental illness or demonic stuff. I've written some threads about it in 2015 on here when it was fresh. Now, 3 years later it's sort of faded out. I'm now very much interested in exorcism, and am reading books from the exorcist Bob Larson and see if I can learn more about this past and what happened. All I know is that I have always been looking at escort pics in the past and always chickened out from actually seeing one and didn't believe in my wildest dreams there would even exist a day in my life I would have actually gone all the way through with that before that happened.

You also talk about the sin of porn and then go on to say that it does no harm and serves a purpose.

Yeah, but a sin is between an individual and God. It's not between an individual and himself or herself or society as a whole.

I would not say that for something to be a sin that it it's defined as doing no harm or serving a purpose. It only just has to offend a holy God. Take God out of the equation, or demons, then it's quote possible that a said thing could have no harm and also serve a purpose. That may be easy to do for most people on here who don't believe in God in the first place and so don't have to deal with the issue of lust being wrong in principle of where it is offensive to a holy God, but on whether this is actually hurting them or others in real and observable ways. That would cast a very large leach and most people would define a porn by looking at allot of hardcore images and spending lots of time on it. I, on the other hand, my define porn in terms of simply lusting after an image of a woman on the computer screen.

 

[soulforge]

I'm not convinced that it ruins relationships. No issues for me. In my mind we're ALL sex addicts. I'm a daily jerker and there's nothing better than weed and porn to enhance the self-sexual experience.

I see what you mean... but that being said, if you are addicted to porn and porn type sex...

Will that not influence the type of girl you would go for in a LTR

I am guessing you would be much more attracted to the slutty type??

 

[ThisNThat]

Like any addiction, it's only an addiction if it's impacting things in your life, ie - job performance, social life, etc. I've heard of dudes who couldn't wait to get home and wanked it in the restroom at work. An IT guy caught people at work looking at porn (they got fired of course). Those are examples.

 

[Plums]

A demonic attack does not mean you are being taken over by demons though. I think there is a misunderstanding. I'm still in the process of learning to differentiate between a mental illness, a demonic attack or an outright invasion (i.e. what you believe is being taking over by demons, or fear of being taken over by demons), or both.

What occurred in December, 2014 is referenced as a case in issue when I'm talking about, what I believe was a demonic incursion. I have written threads about this incident before in 2015 and believed most people on here already knew about this story. So there is some background you are missing.

I visited a prostitute (Suzy) on December 4, 2014 (i.e. very softcore, just danced with her and hugged her and kissed her (face) cheeks passionately and felt her hair and looked at her vag like I was a kid and looking at that for the first time), and on the following day went to another incall center but chickened out, and then saw a second prostitute (Bianca) on December 5, 2014, (i.e. some hardcore stuff went on this time). The following day, on December 6, 2014, all hell broke lose and I believed I was being attacked by a gang of devils, animalistic devils. The shock-wave of this lead to loss of appetite, unable to sleep, waking up at night in a cold-sweat with heart beating fast, unable to drive, feeling like i was going to go crazy. The most severe symptoms lasted for about a week. More milder/moderate symptoms (i.e. have an appetite back and can eat a hamburger, etc..., and drive to some places, etc...) lasted for about the rest of the month. It was a daily battle getting back to normal, driving, having a normal appetite, etc... It was so bad at some point I could not eat pancakes or anything too solid in the morning and it was a struggle to eat. There were also times I'd just stare straight into space.

Now, fast forward the next year (2015), when I was getting back to normal, I still occasionally felt vertigo.

Okay, you get the idea. I'm talking about that incident. I don't know exactly what "that" is. Mental illness or demonic stuff. I've written some threads about it in 2015 on here when it was fresh. Now, 3 years later it's sort of faded out. I'm now very much interested in exorcism, and am reading books from the exorcist Bob Larson and see if I can learn more about this past and what happened. All I know is that I have always been looking at escort pics in the past and always chickened out from actually seeing one and didn't believe in my wildest dreams there would even exist a day in my life I would have actually gone all the way through with that before that happened.



Yeah, but a sin is between an individual and God. It's not between an individual and himself or herself or society as a whole.

I would not say that for something to be a sin that it it's defined as doing no harm or serving a purpose. It only just has to offend a holy God. Take God out of the equation, or demons, then it's quote possible that a said thing could have no harm and also serve a purpose. That may be easy to do for most people on here who don't believe in God in the first place and so don't have to deal with the issue of lust being wrong in principle of where it is offensive to a holy God, but on whether this is actually hurting them or others in real and observable ways. That would cast a very large leach and most people would define a porn by looking at allot of hardcore images and spending lots of time on it. I, on the other hand, my define porn in terms of simply lusting after an image of a woman on the computer screen.

I don't think that it was a demonic attack due to being with the prostitute. I think your symptoms were due to anxiety and guilt. I think you had a series of anxiety attacks (panic attacks) which can seem like a demonic attack. Panic attacks are normal and many people have them, but they are horrid and they don't mean you have mental illness either.

What you described is not what happens when someone is attacked by demonic forces. There are many symptoms that I won't describe apart from one which is you would not remember the incident too well as during demonic episodes you are taken over.

Probably you have extra sensory perception so you are sensitive to things other people cannot see or hear and this confuses you. It can feel like mental illness if you are not in control.

I also think that you live in a place that has spiritual access (portal) that is actually well guarded but you may be bothered by it sometimes. It takes quite a lot of your energy so to help with this you should get some plants around and also a couple of water features as the energy from those items will save some of yours. Maybe a goldfish tank with three goldfish.

Porn is as old as mankind is. from the very first days people walked the earth they depicted sexual acts. One of the largest collections of porn in the world is housed at the British Library and most of it is from ancient times.


If you truly believe in God, then ask him to help you. Because he will always help you. He knows everything about you already so if you think you have done something wrong then tell him, be sorry and ask for help.
Also ask him to help you with the gift he has given you. he would not have chosen the gift for you if he didn't want you to use it on his behalf.

 

[corrector]

I don't think that it was a demonic attack due to being with the prostitute. I think your symptoms were due to anxiety and guilt. I think you had a series of anxiety attacks (panic attacks) which can seem like a demonic attack. Panic attacks are normal and many people have them, but they are horrid and they don't mean you have mental illness either.

What you described is not what happens when someone is attacked by demonic forces. There are many symptoms that I won't describe apart from one which is you would not remember the incident too well as during demonic episodes you are taken over.

I can accept that the physical symptoms strongly resemble anxiety and panic-attacks. There were allot of things going on during the time this occurred. I had recently separated from my ex-wife and had filed and sent over an annulment, (she asked for a divorce numerous times and simply didn't respect the marriage enough for it to work), and also helped my cousin live rent-free in his apartment by attempting to manipulate the legal system. Also, the law of the land was also changing to make buying sex from prostitutes illegal after midnight on the the same date I saw the last prostitute. (Despite the change, the prostitution is still de-facto allowed here as it's not enforced unless there are minors caught up in sex-trafficing, but not older adults).

It's not that I just casually went in to see an escort and everything else was honky-dory.

Porn is as old as mankind is. from the very first days people walked the earth they depicted sexual acts. One of the largest collections of porn in the world is housed at the British Library and most of it is from ancient times.


If you truly believe in God, then ask him to help you. Because he will always help you. He knows everything about you already so if you think you have done something wrong then tell him, be sorry and ask for help.
Also ask him to help you with the gift he has given you. he would not have chosen the gift for you if he didn't want you to use it on his behalf.

[/quote]

God has already delivered me and has answered both my mom's prayers and my prayers. The only issue is that if I ever do that again, I'm not sure about what could potentially happen next time. I've looked at anti-anxiety meds like Ativan and Xanax and lets just say, I wouldn't want to play with that. You see, I just can't see a prostitute because I'm worried about anxiety and feel there is no solution to that. I can't pray to God to help remove my fear of seeing another prostitute since it is not His will for me to ever see a prostitute, therefore, that's a desired result. I know I'm okay if I don't do that again.

Thanks for your insights and contribution, and as a born-again Christian, there is probably some gift that God can use as He has given all His chidren spiritual gifts or some sort.

 

[Plums]

I can accept that the physical symptoms strongly resemble anxiety and panic-attacks. There were allot of things going on during the time this occurred. I had recently separated from my ex-wife and had filed and sent over an annulment, (she asked for a divorce numerous times and simply didn't respect the marriage enough for it to work), and also helped my cousin live rent-free in his apartment by attempting to manipulate the legal system. Also, the law of the land was also changing to make buying sex from prostitutes illegal after midnight on the the same date I saw the last prostitute. (Despite the change, the prostitution is still de-facto allowed here as it's not enforced unless there are minors caught up in sex-trafficing, but not older adults).

It's not that I just casually went in to see an escort and everything else was honky-dory.

God has already delivered me and has answered both my mom's prayers and my prayers. The only issue is that if I ever do that again, I'm not sure about what could potentially happen next time. I've looked at anti-anxiety meds like Ativan and Xanax and lets just say, I wouldn't want to play with that. You see, I just can't see a prostitute because I'm worried about anxiety and feel there is no solution to that. I can't pray to God to help remove my fear of seeing another prostitute since it is not His will for me to ever see a prostitute, therefore, that's a desired result. I know I'm okay if I don't do that again.

Thanks for your insights and contribution, and as a born-again Christian, there is probably some gift that God can use as He has given all His chidren spiritual gifts or some sort.[/QUOTE]

I hope it all works out well for you. You can deal with anxiety without medication. Just look at things from a different perspective. Anxiety is clever because it will make you fearful of the fear itself.

 

[Reykhel]

You can deal with anxiety without medication

Agreed. Simply by making a decision and taking action.

Two types of decisions: Constructive and destructive. Either one is preferable to no decision being made.

No decisions...no action.....mental atrophy......anxiety.....addictions.....

A bill arrives.......you don't deal with it............no decision.........anxiety....
A bad relationship.......you don't deal with it.....no decision.....anxiety.....

Make a decision......take action..........let the wasp out of the bottle.

 

[corrector]

I don't think people understand the extent of the anxiety problem. No meds were taken because I don't trust the system. Don't want to get crazy taking some pills to end up with a potential bad reaction, I mean these things could have nasty side-effects, right?

Well, must be having "porn withdrawal symptoms". I actually took a creep-shot out with my smartphone (ended up deleting the picture within an hour because this is against my religion) visiting a Farmer's Market. The lady I took the creep-shot with passed by, and I smiled at her slyly as she walked by and actually wanted to talk with her and see if I could make a contact there. I think it feels easier to approach a lady to talk with her if you took a photo of her behind her back because it's like you already have a piece of her so you feel a primal connection with her is justified since you already subconciously expressed that nature by taking the photo. Followed another lady from behind tempting to take out another creep-shot. Normally, it is easy to get content by looking at images on the computer but now, I'm fighting myself not to take these creep-shots out there after staying away from softcore porn so long..

Even thinking of ex-gfs who is taking pills for Scizo who invited me to go to her home and was aware I married another girl and ended up divorced all the while she knew me. Again, this usually happens when I stay away from that stuff and hopefully all of that will fade over time. Again, glitches in the system from not looking at porn. Will see how this plays out in the coming weeks and if I get more, or less perverse as a result of not looking at any porn, (including any softcore porn, or any head-shots of hijab wearing women, etc...) on the internet and how I react if I feel like I'm starving for that type of stuff and how it sublimes into this type of creepy behaviour, or potential creepy behaviour out there.

 

[custardpie]

Just when I think this board is filled with level-headed people with a grip on reality, then the posts on demons, Jesus and bible verses start coming.....we're supposed to be realists in this community that cut through all the bullsh1t and get down to what's really going on with us and our problems in the real world.
Since when does a fictional book written (and re-written many times since) hundreds of years ago have any pertinence to the things we discuss here? And if you didn't already know, the whole Jesus story has already been told in other holy books with different characters at different points in time. It's a STORY. Not REAL.

Possession by demons.......just fvcking LOL

 

[corrector]

Just when I think this board is filled with level-headed people with a grip on reality, then the posts on demons, Jesus and bible verses start coming.....we're supposed to be realists in this community that cut through all the bullsh1t and get down to what's really going on with us and our problems in the real world.
Since when does a fictional book written (and re-written many times since) hundreds of years ago have any pertinence to the things we discuss here? And if you didn't already know, the whole Jesus story has already been told in other holy books with different characters at different points in time. It's a STORY. Not REAL.

That is what the devil wants you to believe. You are playing into his hands.

 

[custardpie]

http://www.demontest.com/

You never know.

You've got to pay $9.95 just to take the test? lmfao gutted I was looking forward to that

 

[custardpie]

That is what the devil wants you to believe. You are playing into his hands.

Oh I see....

*backs slowly out of the room