Are you a DJ secretly or openly?

[Masculinity]

I would go lower and say 14-18 but that's illegal. I once sparked up a conversation with what I thought was an attractive, feminine, thoughtful, and mature 19 year old. Turns out she was 15! And of course, I had to drop her. But talking to her was like a peek into heaven because she reminded me of the wonder and excitement of romance. I could tell looking into her eyes she wasn't jaded and hadn't experienced the lost of first love yet. Romance really does get sh!ttier the older the woman gets. With women in their 20's, romance is a validation game. With women in their 30's, romance becomes a financial obligation (marriage, divorce, child support).

I'm with you 100% on this one. I was a mentor at a local event where graduate students mentor high school students preparing to apply to college. I met a woman there--a beautiful brunette with broad hips, perky breasts and a smile worth $1M bucks. Most importantly, she was unbelievable humble and behaved as if she was lucky I was talking to her, after a few minutes of conversation. It was difficult to grasp--no sh!t tests, DHVs, drama, bratty behavior or assumptions.

At that point, I thought she seemed a little too good, but she was the real deal. Long story short, I got to know her briefly and went for the close. I was getting a lot of indicators of interest from her. She looked mature physically and was leading groups of high school students so I assumed she was a graduate student...but I was wrong. She was a junior in high school...haha. I immediately shifted the conversation topics and moved it to a professional mentor tone and said if she or her parents had any questions, I would be happy to talk to all of them. The look of humility, sincerity, and pure interest in her eyes was proceless.

When I got back with the group of mentors, a number of my male friends were there. Basically a good number of them found her attractive and they were just as surprised to hear that she was a high school student because of the way she looked and behaved. It is what it is though. No woman is worth going to jail for...I never spoke to her again.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Game is no big secret anymore. You hear principles being discussed openly by men and women in public, whether they realise what they're talking about or not; though rarely 'game' referenced directly.

What does remain however, is the element of mystery as a game principle.

To be fair, women are the ultimate game players in many ways, and far more rehearsed than most men. A lot of the time, they can see exactly what you're doing and when it's going well, it's almost like a dance between boy and girl. Why spoil that.

Being live and direct is one thing. Lacking subtlety and tact is quite another.

 

[Roober]

Your mom is keeping it real because she know that guys who are capable with women have more choices!

I'm curious to hear if your guy friends gave you pushback? Did you hear a white knight mentality? Curious to hear what their rationale is.

Ya, mom's is pretty down to earth, she just worried about me hurting women, which I get...

As far as the guys, my buddy who hasn't had sex much in the last 3 years (10 times), friend A, and my other buddy, friend B, and I got together. Friend B kept saying, "date her", "buy her things", "do nice things for her", so you can see where he is coming from... I told him to get in shape, start getting friendly with women and people in general, find his purpose and pursue his passions, he is currently a stay at home dad. Friend A was like "she is just not very sexual", and I responded with "every woman is sexual, your finger is just not on the right button. I don't even think you know where the buttons are." They both basically wrote off everything I was saying, as in "she doesn't respect you, so you don't make her pvssy tingle"... so yes... white knights... I imagine both of them will be divorced within 5-10 years, but I hope I am wrong.

 

[BeExcellent]

Game is no big secret anymore. You hear principles being discussed openly by men and women in public, whether they realise what they're talking about or not; though rarely 'game' referenced directly.

What does remain however, is the element of mystery as a game principle.

To be fair, women are the ultimate game players in many ways, and far more rehearsed than most men.

A lot of the time, they can see exactly what you're doing and when it's going well, it's almost like a dance between boy and girl. Why spoil that.

I have to agree with this. I recognize "game" a mile away but enjoy the engagement, the polarity and the dance it represents. I appreciate men who understand and are comfortable with it; it creates comfort for a woman to know her feminine energy is welcomed & appreciated. It encourages her to give.

Interestingly I often meet men with whom discussions about game type topics come up. Guys are at once more relaxed into themselves as men and also intrigued. I find that game aware men actually appreciate a game aware woman who understands the dance, it's roles, and who embraces the dynamic.

It actually creates a level of genuine engagement. To me that is red pill in a nutshell. Understand reality, operate authentically and seek your own self awareness while also helping others in recognizing theirs.

But as in all things...the information you have to share will not be appreciated if the other party is not ready to hear it, see it or believe it.

 

[resilient]

I def. keep being a DJ under wraps. Though... it was interesting in the last two months I was talking about a breakup I had recently with two new friends and discovered that they knew about general game and MGTOW. One of them was about ten years younger than me, yet talked a lot about Corey Wayne tactics, the other was heading into his 40s, remained social, seen him chat up other ladies, struggles with money, yet is all about MGTOW.

 

[greatsnake]

People around me know how I operate, even though I haven't said a word about being a DJ. The ones around usually are going to gravitate to your personality, or they are going to criticize.

Actions speak louder, IMO.

 

[SgtSplacker]

I've tried to explain this stuff to people and I feel like some kinda dooms day prophet in the streets of nyc holding a cardboard sign.

 

[JohnChops]

I've learned it's best to keep my beliefs to SS and to myself. The most resistance comes from guys not girls. I find both to be ignorant and unwilling to embrace just about anything of what I consider to be the DJ mindset.

Agreed. Most girls, when you get close enough to them, actually agree with a lot of the points about game here and attraction. However, the guys don't want to hear it. They just want to be left in the dark.

With that being said, I keep my views to here and close friends, but even they can be resistant.

 

[Masculinity]

I tried to give some dating advice to a friend. He's seen only two women in the last 4 years or so, of which he was sexually deprived for two years.

He responded very defensively, saying "I don't want your advice; I want to find a connection with a woman, take her out, pay" without "learning any tricks or tips." It disappoints me that the white nights and AFCs who need to hear this advice are the ones listening the least.

I've considered ending the friendship, because of the way he responded. I'm not going to burn the bridge but I'll keep more distance between us.

 

[JohnChops]

I tried to give some dating advice to a friend. He's seen only two women in the last 4 years or so, of which he was sexually deprived for two years.

He responded very defensively, saying "I don't want your advice; I want to find a connection with a woman, take her out, pay" without "learning any tricks or tips." It disappoints me that the white nights and AFCs who need to hear this advice are the ones listening the least.

I've considered ending the friendship, because of the way he responded. I'm not going to burn the bridge but I'll keep more distance between us.

Funny enough, when I go out , I feel like almost every guy there knows about game/redpill and such. But in reality its such a small portion that really understand the true social dynamic. Its almost sad that men don't want to hear the truth. It isn't tips and tricks it is how it works.

 

[devilkingx2]

I let every guy who is supposed to be my friend in on my DJ secrets, the reason for this is that if we're supposed to be friends then I want them to succeed and try to help them become more redpill, and if we're going to successfully be friends we'll likely talk about girls and that's not going to work if my friend is some beta white knight who calls me a misogynist or gives me feminist dating tips or some sh!t

aside from that, I keep it quiet

 

[devilkingx2]

He responded very defensively, saying "I don't want your advice; I want to find a connection with a woman, take her out, pay" without "learning any tricks or tips." It disappoints me that the white nights and AFCs who need to hear this advice are the ones listening the least.

"If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always got"

 

[skinnyguy]

It is not socially acceptable to be a player after the age of 30. It is socially acceptable to have a wife and children, even if the wife is butt ugly. I'm off banging hot Latinas but I don't tell anyone about it except by best friend.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

It's best not to confide, or confess, your ultimate concerns to those you have not built a friendship with.

 

[Reykhel]

Agreed. Most girls, when you get close enough to them, actually agree with a lot of the points about game here and attraction. However, the guys don't want to hear it. They just want to be left in the dark.

With that being said, I keep my views to here and close friends, but even they can be resistant.

True that.

You speak a truth to a woman and there's a silence, a knowing shaking of the head in agreement. You do the same with certain
men and they get uncomfortable and look around to see was anyone listening that may have got offended.

Anyway, if you are red pill aware/ game aware......if it's become part of your makeup and part of your way of life. If that's how you
live your life.......I don't see how it can't be fragrantly obvious to those around you that.....

......you get it.

Women generally know.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

True that.

You speak a truth to a woman and there's a silence, a knowing shaking of the head in agreement. You do the same with certain
men and they get uncomfortable and look around to see was anyone listening that may have got offended.

Anyway, if you are red pill aware/ game aware......if it's become part of your makeup and part of your way of life. If that's how you
live your life.......I don't see how it can't be fragrantly obvious to those around you that.....

......you get it.

Women generally know.

Yes, but I'm not sure how showing 'game' to be an inherently feminine quality is supposed to reflect positively on men well versed in the art. What reflects better on men is their ability to think more rationally and imaginatively; that is, about the collective good.

 

[Reykhel]

Yes, but I'm not sure how showing 'game' to be an inherently feminine quality is supposed to reflect positively on men well versed in the art.

Twisting my words like that is rather disingenuous of you.

We as men are born with the built in knowledge and animal instinct that's needed to survive and replicate. In other words, we come
ready wired to interact and successfully mate with the opposite sex and thus pass on our genes. The human race lives on.

We are already wired that way. Got that so far? We are the hunter gatherers. How you make that out to be an inherently feminine quality is beyond me, snake boy.

Then, alone came feminism, along came the industrial revolution and the end of agrarian societies, the fractured relationship between the boy and the father, political correctness, the femenisation of education, the liberal left, high divorce rates resulting in boys being raised by single mothers.....boys being raised as "men" defined by what it means to be a man thought a woman's eyes.....

.....heavy social conditioning. Got that so far?

Red pill awareness, game awareness, positive masculinity......in my eyes is disconnecting from all of that social conditioning and getting back in touch with man's true nature. Our natural wirings. How you make that out to be an inherently feminine quality is beyond me.

I was at a barbecue and the host a female and a bit of a "difficult independent bytch" was talking about how she was out at some event and there was this guy who made a bee line for her. She spoke to him for a few minutes and then she wanted to mingle but he kept following her and not talking to anyone else. anyway I can't remember exactly the scenario but my response to her was something like

"some men don't realize that if they want to get the women they need to win the men (in the room)"

her response "exactly. if you get on with my male friends and brothers I know you're all right"

There was also a dumb feminist there who tried to claim that she was "a strong independent women", yet her rich parents had furnished
her lifestyle. She was a stubborn cow but even she conceded and agreed when I brought up hypergamy.....(in lay man's terms)........of course it was the only thing she conceded, but I love winding up feminists........I love it for my own amusement.......

the boyfriend of one of the girls was there and although I like the guy, he's such a politically correct teddybear. For every topic we may have debated (the pay gap myth for example, I gave the feminist a few truths about that which she did not want to accept................) .....the boyfriend interjected with some politically correct cliches "everybody can be what they want to be"...

Again, the female host although a bit of a difficult bytch.....was fully in agreement....

Women know because they are in the fvcking game by default.....they are approached a lot thus are much more socially aware. you and I are only in the game if we approach, thus we have to develop that socially awareness.........getting it now?

Women are much more developed in a machiavellian way than men are.........you can even see this with kids.

In todays society a man needs to learn to be Machiavellian (Politics), because unfortunately you cannot call someone who displeases you out for a duel at midday.

Women are the masters at game. A lot of game is simply turning the fvcking tables on them.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Women are the masters at game. A lot of game is simply turning the fvcking tables on them.

Men gaming is not turning the tables on women at all. It's simply playing their game. At the social level, this is what encourages the kind of behavior that we complain about in women. Why do we complain, and yet contribute to the cultural mess? Because there is a split within ourselves between our individual 'self-interest' and our rationality... our natural and rational desires.

Turning the tables would involve refusing to play the game, and acting with some solidarity. Actually, that is what a quality woman is looking for... a source of strength, stability, and authenticity, to which she could be grounded.

 

[Reykhel]

Men gaming is not turning the tables on women at all. It's simply playing their game. At the social level, this is what encourages the kind of behavior that we complain about in women. Why do we complain, and yet contribute to the cultural mess? Because there is a split within ourselves between our individual 'self-interest' and our rationality... our natural and rational desires.

Turning the tables would involve refusing to play the game, and acting with some solidarity. Actually, that is what a quality woman is looking for... a source of strength, stability, and authenticity, to which she could be grounded.

You lost me at "quality woman", but go on I'll play along....

An example of turning the tables. A lot of men put women on pedestals, they seek women's approval, they view women as the prize (culturally if the man is led to believe "he gets lucky with a woman"). Game often requires a changing of mindset.........the changing of mindset turns many of these things around (i.e. the expression turning the tables) She is no longer the prize, you are.......you no longer seek her approval, she seeks yours.....you take her off the pedestal and become more dominant (thus elevating yourself). These are basic examples....

But go on, enlighten me.....seen as I am wrong according to you...

What's game to you? writing them poetry? become their best friend?

 

[Masculinity]

"If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always got"

Correct. Einstein defined insanity as "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."