Stop enabling single parent women

[Dr. Reed]

I was reading through a thread about a gentleman who was falling for a single mom.

There was a vigorous debate regarding the personal downside of dating a single mom. However there is a larger and more important issue: The negative impact on society.

Anyone interested in a deeper discussion of this problem, please read the first chapter of a book I am working on. Rational actor modeling explains perfectly why women do these things (Murray and others are a good source for this discussion). I am working out a way to get it into the hands of my fellow forumites.

For those of you who read my lengthy post about the marginalization of men should know that enabling single parent women contributes (and reflects) everything that is wrong with our society. Children of single parent "families" have much, much worse life outcomes. In terms of education, crime, earnings, drug and alcohol addiction...it is a long list.

50% of marriages end in divorce, and the ability of a woman with child to find partners is glorified in our culture. That is part of the reason why 70% of divorces are filed by women. They know they will continue to collect the paycheck of the man she reproduced with. They will get the house. They also know that there will be many weak men that are more than happy to be with her. I call them men who raise other men's sperm.

Compounding this problem is the fact that these variables exacerbate the problem of unmarried women who are encouraged to have children to begin with. We live in the "You go girl" dystopia created by the War on Men. I am woman hear my roar, I don't need a man to have a baby, I do not need to be selective about who I open up my legs to. The welfare state will support me and the laws that protect me are massive and ubiquitous.

Before the modern welfare/man hating state, a woman would actually have to be intelligent, discerning, and selective in her sex choices. Furthermore, she would have to be a good wife and mother if she wanted to be successful. She had to be a descent kind, loving, and giving person. There were consequences if she treated her husband like ****.

To days, there are financial and cultural incentives. The rise of the baby momma state is just basic economics 101. There are a thousand reasons to treat your man like ****.

The consequences in the modern world are consequences for the man from the strong arm of the state.

As men, it is critical for us to put a stop to this. Yes, you can **** a woman who would have been far out of your league pre baby, but now you can make it with an 8.

The laws morals of our society will not change, even though this phenomena hurts our society, hurts men, hurts children, and in the long run hurts women. It hurts everyone, that is why you must stop enabling this insanity. Do not love and or enable these women.

 

[Serenity]

Now if only men would stop giving these women dick, but it also seems to be that these women know there's millions of desperate men willing to fuck any woman indiscriminately.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Noy gonna fvck a woman with a kid home alone, its even beyond my immoral life path.

No matter how hot she is, I have enough respect for myself and for the poor kid in that unfortunate situation.

 

[Dr. Reed]

You are wise, gentlemen. We must ban together. When there is no one for these women they will slow our societies march into madness.

If you are interested in this argument you can either read the first chapter in my book, I will be selling this book, but it is free to all SoSuave members. In the meantime, check out Charles Murray's book, Losing Ground. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Losing_Ground_(book)

Murray's central thesis is "that social welfare programs, as they have historically been implemented in the United States, tend to increase poverty rather than eliminate it by creating incentives that reward short-sighted behavior that is not conducive to escaping poverty in the long term."

Most of the academic world has fully bought into the notion that men are scum. Women's studies, psychology (read the publication psychology Today every featured article is misandry (hatred of men).

Murray's analysis (rational choice model taken from economics). Is balanced. The hard statistical analyses are driven be facts and evidence, not ideology.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

I'm surrounded by sigle mothers in my city, I have a 2 year old with a selfish dumb btch babys mama.

Her mother has been single to her whole life.
Her single mom aunt is married to a chode that took in her in.
Her other 3 aunts all have kids with new boyfriends.

My neighbor is a cute single mom with 2 kids.

Have several girls I know have dated that are single moms..

My 2 Co workers at my loval diner are really pretty nice girls I get along with great.

One is really attractive, single mom with a new boyfrind recently that makes alot of money.

The other has a daughter and getting married soon, she talks about her wedding plans everyday.

Her fiance is a clueless idiot marrying this retard. I swear he has stars in his eyes whenever he walks into to visit and eyes me suspicusloy because.. well I'm handsome

At the bars theyre littered with them, all of there baby's are being watched by there parents or grandparents while they go out and get drunk railing on club rats, including the mother of my son now.

Their excuse is always "I worked full time at my coffee stand all week and I never get to take off my work cloths wahhh."

They only see there kids on the evenings, pass them off to the grandparents on the weekends, very fcking Chitty mothers that arnt capable of parenting. The kids suffer.

I suffered greatly from having divorced parents, I remember I would leave town for weeks at a time when I was 15 and my parents wouldn't even know I was gone when I came back. The freedom was cool but talk about being neglected.

I am very fvcking angry. Can't even type this properly.

 

[Dr. Reed]

I've went out with single mothers without falling into providerdom. Don't see the big deal.

It's actually useful in some ways, because her commitments keep them from getting on my case too much.

The real problem is that guys get silly and start acting like fvcking idiots. Hence, guys can't trust themselves.

I'm also getting a vasectomy. Tell me how any woman is going to have any power over me then? They don't have any power at all. That's why they need the deck stacked.

Have no idea what you are talking about by "enabling". I had nothing to do in those life choices made by other people in the past. I'm going to continue getting my needs met, rather than attempt to punish people through some sort of weird moralistic, white-knight spite.

Life's far too short for that sh*t.

EDIT: I may have misread your intentions. If you are ****ing and dumping these single moms, I am OK with that, and please disregard my post. Otherwise.....

It is fair to say that you do not grasp my main point whatsoever. Lets try again. I am most certainly not interested in punishing single moms. Punishment has nothing to do with it. I am talking about massive shifts in society that are going to destroy our civilization. Not just men, but women and children too. Guys like you (enabler) are a central part of the problem. You put |"your needs" above the needs of everyone else.

I do not mean to insult you, but you are a major component of the War on Men. You are giving aid and comfort to the enemy (the enemy is our policy, not women)

What is at stake here? Everything. Modern society has created destructive laws, morals, accountabilities, and economic incentives. Rational actor economic modeling posits that we are going to make decisions based upon economic principles . You go to the store, you see 2 products that are identical in quality and size...which do you buy? The less expensive one.

The same argument can be made in regards to female behavior. In fact, it has. The data is there, but it does not affect our policy laws. Why? Because the far left dominates the policy agenda. Rational choice people like myself have absolutely no political power whatsoever. It does not matter what the empirical data tells us because the left dominated policy makers do not want to hear the truth. Men are scum, right? Who cares if they are screwed over, right? That attitude gas driven our public policies for more than 85 years.

The explosion in single parent households are a product of our misguided policies. That is why so many of our children are being raised this way. These children are much more likely to end up in prison, have drug and alcohol addictions, have massively lower rates of college degrees. They are also much more likely to become single parents themselves.

These policies are going to be the destruction of our society. It is not if, it is when. That is what is at stake here....please....take the red pill and wake up.

Our society provides financial incentive for women to have children out of wedlock. Our society has powerful economic incentives for women to divorce their husbands.

Those are the economic incentives. Unfortunately, there are many social incentive for Single mothers. Women are smart and calculating. They know that our society places no stigmas on husbandless women. That means women know that they will easily find a relationship after they become unattached baby mommas.

They know there will be tons of desperate and willing men out there. In short, they know that there will be plenty of guys like you. Guys like you are enablers. Guys that are not successful with childless women turn to single moms. You exacerbate the war upon men. You enable, make it easy for women to not stay in a relationship with the father of their children because you will give them aid and comfort.

I am sorry if I am harsh, but your desire to get laid is a big part of the problem.

 

[Dr. Reed]

Are you taking the piss?

I vote conservative, and I shag liberally.

I understand the scene full well. Probably more than you do by the sounds of it.



Very nearly every ltr I've ever had was with a childless woman. And that was just as a blue-pill...

I'm not "enabling" sh*t. You MRA's are just trying to turn this back into the 1800's. Trying to hamstring women and men both. Trying to control hypergamy so that you aren't on the losing end of it. Sexual marketplace socialists.

Why would I want any part of that? This scene benefits me greatly.

For the children? Who are you, Micheal Jackson?

You don't care about "the children". You care about getting your needs met. And this MRA shtick is your game.

There's your red-pill.

Well, thank you for sharing. Are you interested in the core thesis of my debate, or just insults? Are you able to grasp how laws and mores affect our behavior? It is clear to me that your reading comprehension is problematic. I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.

Lets try again.

I will make this very simple: A woman gets financial support from the state for having children out of wedlock. A woman also gets financial incentives from divorcing her husband. Understand?

That is the economic side. There is another side. Woman are concerned that if they leave the father of their children they will not be able to get another man very easily.

That fear is a huge part of their rational decision making process. Then comes along a man like you, desperate and willing to accept any and all sex he can get. You target single mothers because doing so enables you to sex better looking women, women you would have no chance with were they not married.

So, lets address this core issue, by please answering this question: Does the fact that men such as your self will be plentiful affect a woman's decision making process? Are you familiar with any of the literature in this area?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

The negative impact on society.

Most dudes who bang single moms don't care much about society. They just want to get laid.

Few humans will (or can) restrain from doing things that satisfy them in order to not negatively impact society.

Especially when alcohol is involved.

Taking care of yourself and your own is one thing, but I think society is pretty much fvcked.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

@Dr. Reed

Hey, pretty much agree with everything youre saying, after going through absolute hell with my last breakup and racking my brains on how to deal with my 2 year old son growing up properly with a broken family, I've mulled over alot of your ideas alot in the back of my head.

Single moms are in hog heaven, the laws are on their side, plenty of desperate pieces of chit that beg to pay their way and take care of my offspring.

She shows me her facebook. 1000s of friend requests and dms from the bottom Barrell of beta scum BEGGING for attention. One kid offered her a 18k built subaru sti motor, said he'd swap in it her forester...

Men need to STOP ENCOURAGING THIS ****.

I personally will not get involved with a single mom, unless of course I'm adding value to her life AND her kids life. Same with my son.

My stupid sexual needs arnt worth hurting other people/kids.

I was 10 and my mom left my dad to go bang some biker, she had 3 kids.

That fvcked me up beyond all repair my teenage years. Even my own mother flaked out on me man. Straight up abandoned me and my dad broke in LA, and I always wondered at that younge age, how desperate could a chode be to take in a still married mother with 3 kids?

The bible says no pre marital sex, and fornication or adultery now Im understanding why, the repurcussions have a ripple effect towards everybody.

 

[Dr. Reed]

Most dudes who bang single moms don't care much about society. They just want to get laid.

Few humans will (or can) restrain from doing things that satisfy them in order to not negatively impact society.

Especially when alcohol is involved.

Taking care of yourself and your own is one thing, but I think society is pretty much fvcked.

Correct. deesade illustrates you point completely. If a woman knows she will have solid options, that makes her much more likely to not bond with the father of the children.

Charles Murray has done first rate work in this area. Murray's main thesis is that social welfare programs, as they have historically been implemented in the United States, tend to increase poverty rather than eliminate it by creating incentives that reward short-sighted behavior that is not conducive to escaping poverty in the long term. These policies produce human beings that are not prepared for life. If you unpack his position, you will see that the decision to have children out of wedlock is supported by rational actor economic models. A woman gets more money from the state than she would if she married the father of her first child.

That is the economic side. Our cultural mores champion single mothers as well. Women know that there will be a parade of willing men that will enter into relationships with them regardless.

deesade illustrates that point very well, and even admits that he does not care what impact his actions have on society. In truth, I don't blame him. I think he is wrong, and personally I would never do what he is doing, but his response to our legal and cultural imperatives is understandable. It is not rational for men to enter legal agreements with women if we look closely at what is in store for them.

However I do care very, very much. Men have few power in todays world, especially in regards to cohabitation. The only power we have is to A, pick the right woman, and B, keep her in love.

 

[Dr. Reed]

@Dr. Reed

Hey, pretty much agree with everything youre saying, after going through absolute hell with my last breakup and racking my brains on how to deal with my 2 year old son growing up properly with a broken family, I've mulled over alot of your ideas alot in the back of my head.

Single moms are in hog heaven, the laws are on their side, plenty of desperate pieces of chit that beg to pay their way and take care of my offspring.

She shows me her facebook. 1000s of friend requests and dms from the bottom Barrell of beta scum BEGGING for attention. One kid offered her a 18k built subaru sti motor, said he'd swap in it her forester...

Men need to STOP ENCOURAGING THIS ****.

I personally will not get involved with a single mom, unless of course I'm adding value to her life AND her kids life. Same with my son.

My stupid sexual needs arnt worth hurting other people/kids.

I was 10 and my mom left my dad to go bang some biker, she had 3 kids.

That fvcked me up beyond all repair my teenage years. Even my own mother flaked out on me man. Straight up abandoned me and my dad broke in LA, and I always wondered at that younge age, how desperate could a chode be to take in a still married mother with 3 kids?

The bible says no pre marital sex, and fornication or adultery now Im understanding why, the repurcussions have a ripple effect towards everybody.

I feel your pain. Unfortunately, I come from a broken home. My father died of alcoholism when I was 10 (parents divorced long before that) and my mother fell in the river and drowned as she drank her vodka and gulped her pills down.

The above is probably why I am so passionate about this topic.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I don't blame him. I think he is wrong,

He's not wrong he's rational. It is IRRATIONAL to NOT do something that benefits you so that OTHER PEOPLE can increase their benefit.

No dude is going to restrain from getting laid to "better society." That's just ridiculous.

The main PROBLEM of society is that our collective selfish (and rational) actions add up to the decay of society.

I agree that this is due to "incorrect" government policy, but these policies are also "rational" in that they lead to more votes for the politicians who put them in place.

You can write a book targeted at individuals to live better lives as individuals, or you can target a book toward policy wonks at better social policies.

Kind of hard to do both at once.

 

[The Duke]

The issues Doc outlined are well known and he is very accurate in his assessment. However we are not a Christian society anymore and the teachings of the church are no longer followed. Society now approves of multiple marriages/divorces, illegitimate children, single mommy-hood, multiple sechs partners, etc. The government supports single moms. This was not the case 25+ years ago as society followed the teachings of the church.

I don’t see it changing either. We now have an entire generation of millennial boys raised by single moms with absent fathers. We will see a rise in beta males! They’ve already quit going to college. The epidemic is just getting started. Will women start growing penis’s next? haha

Most people as Deesade and Taiyuu Otoku pointed out, only care about their own selfish needs. Some see a much larger picture. To each his own. Every thing in this world goes in cycles. Eventually the ship will upright itself, although things will never be the same as they were before.

 

[Dr. Reed]

All of you are absolutely correct. Why sacrifice for the common good if that society is continuously penalizing you for being a father, husband, or role model.

You owe it nothing. I lost a family, lost a wife, lost a son because of these policies. I have an amazing wife and son today because I know how to work the system. As deesade notes, the only upside is that men can now have access to sex, lots of it. More than they would if married. Empowered women are free to have a much sex as they want, as many partners as they want. Our exploiting this political reality is in itself a rational choice that would hold up well if we designed an empirical study to measure it.

Nonetheless, I want men to be aware of all options. I want to spare them our destructive laws. The thrust of my book is finding the absolute best wife and having the absolute best marriage.

Having said that, I want my guys to have as much sex with as many women as possible. I justify this because very few women are worth starting a family with.

Much of my early stage program is pretty straight forward seduction material (with some twists). I want my guys opening as many women as possible, number closing, date closing F*** closing.

I want them running a 3 women rotation (Tuesday/ Thursday/Saturday) Where they are opening and honestly having tons of sex with these women. They are all prospects and very few will work out in the long term. There is nothing immoral about program this because you are honest and are not cheating.

I ran a 3 women rotation for 2 years before I met my wife.

 

[Dr. Reed]

I think basing one's game around real personal sacrifice is completely foolish.



It's not just sex.

If this were the 1920's, I could very well be married right now. Living a life of mental slavery.

I grew up with plenty of "honour" beliefs, and found them to be as toxic and detrimental as feminist "equality" beliefs.



Go to Chateau Heartise, and look up the section "science validates game". Years worth of interesting material.



I agree with that sentiment.

I just think that shaming men as "enablers" is very short-sighted.



A less celibate version of anti-dumps machine would be welcome here. I think that material is starting to show it's age.



I'll give it a read. Honesty is something I'm trying to work on more with women.

deesade, Lets get something very clear: You are doing exactly what my rational choice model would predict of a smart man in todays world. I am not shaming you. Your behavior is textbook. In fact, I want to interview you about why you make the decisions you make. I am, however, shaming policymakers. I will get to that in a moment.

Taiyou, I would like to interview you as well. I am going to interview 5 single intelligent men. With only 5 participants, obviously I am not going to do an empirical analysis. I am going to lay the groundwork of a larger empirical analysis in the future. Also there is lots of survey bias, but remember, the theory we have is exceptionally strong

I am quite certain that all intelligent rational men will make the choices you have made. My goal is to teach men how to select, seduce and have a family. You are not interested in that, and I do not blame you. Just understand what is at stake here: Our future.

The best and brightest men are increasingly choosing to not marry, to not have children, do not take on families and responsibilities. The best and briotest women in our culture are niot having children either. The children that we are producing end up obese, uneducated and become parasite on society.

Thus, we have 2 big problems. First, the US is going bankrupt, I don't want to spend a lot of time discussing why, but I taught this topic for many years. Trust me, we are in HORRIBLE financial shape. Our federal deficit is mind boggling, more than 60,000 for every person in this country. Demographics are exacerbating this problem.

The largest age cohort, baby boomers, are starting to retire. The will go from workers paying taxes and other money INTO our private and public sectors to retiees who olnly draw money in the form of Social Security and Medicare. The numbers are mid boggling.

At the same time, we are having fewer, and fewer children, especially children who will become successful, pay taxes, and generate money into the private sector.

The few children we will get will go on public assistance and further drain the economy.

EVERYTHING is going to come tumbling down. We are facing a massive crisis. The good men, the smart men, men who would make excellent fathers and husbands are opting out. On the other hand, the most successful women are also getting selected out of the gene pool.

Like I said, you guys have no incentive to save the world.

Off topic, I have a large section in my second chapter about how to date 3 women at once with out lying. It can be done if you are disciplined and smart. Mosty women never made it past the third month with me, but the sex was amazing. I had a Tuesday/Thurday/Sat. rotation.

I am going to post up a draft of my work where I explain how to manage a 3 woman rotation and not lie. Here is a section. This is an old draft, and needs work, but it lays out my program

ALWAYS BE A GENTLEMEN

It needs to be stated at the beginning of this chapter that the primary goal of the Toolbox is not sex. The primary goal is for you to become a high value man, the type that women are naturally drawn to. We are always gentlemen! We treated women with love, respect, and kindness. We do not use them for sex.

However, you will be having A LOT of sex. By the time I mastered the principles of the Toolbox (actually, during the last two years) I was dating three women a week. I had a Tuesday date, a Thursday date, and a Saturday date. Sex was plentiful.

Keep in mind I never cheated. My goal was to find the best woman possible to settle down with. All the women I dated were prospects. I never lied to any of them.

It usually takes about two months to know if the person you are dating has Long Term Relationship (LTR) potential. During this period you do not promise exclusivity. You do not lie.

Be prepared...if a women really likes you she will bring it up, usually after the first few dates, depending upon which day of the week you are seeing her.

If a prospect is very good, do not see her on the weekends. If she has high interest she will ask “why don’t you take me out on Saturdays? Are you seeing other people?”

DO NOT LIE!!! YOU WILL GET CAUGHT!!!

Trust me, women are better at this game than you are. A lot better. Do you really think that she “forgot” that earring squirreled away in your sock drawer? NO! She is marking her territory. She put it there so that other women will see it.

Women will find evidence like hair. I was dating three women with long black hair. So did the other women I was seeing at the time I met her.

One found a hair and presented it to me. She asked “whose’ is this?”

I replied “it looks like yours.” She said “no, it is 2 inches shorter than mine. Are you seeing other people?”

I replied “only six or seven, but you are my favorite. Ha ha ha.” Then change the subject. Ask her who she is dating. You do not want to dwell on the specifics of your (failed) dating life. If you do she will start to get turned off. Keep it light, keep it funny.

I give the same answer regarding the fact that I was divorced. Interested women always ask “are you married….have you ever been married?”

Do not discuss this topic, it will only hurt your chances. Instead say “six or seven times, I lost count. But I am 100% sure my next marriage will be the one to work.” Ha ha.

Turn it back on her, get her talking about her prior (IE failed) relationships.

Remember, early on in a relationship she does not love you yet. If you say something that throws a red flag you will lose her.

 

[Dr. Reed]

The day of the week you take a woman out is critical!

Early on, you do not take women out on the weekend, especially if you really like her. If you really like a woman, what day of the week should you see her?

Monday through Thursday. Here is why.

Lets say you have been working the Toolbox for more than a year. You have gotten very good at dating. You are constantly getting new phone numbers and you are managing a 3 woman rotation (IE dating 3 women a week).

Your only limitation is time. If you did not work and go to the gym you could have a date every night of the week.

You have a Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday night rotation. Which gal do you see on Saturday? Your number one prospect? No. You see your top prospect either Tuesday of Thursday.

Your number 3 prospect is your Saturday night date. After 6 weeks you are arguing more and more with her. The sex is great, and she is gorgeous, but you realize that in the long run she is not going to work out.

You must have integrity and break it off. We are always gentlemen!

Remember, guys: Marriage and babies will not make things better! They only get worse. Get out of relationships that do not have potential. There should not be any problems whatsoever during the first 2 months of a relationship for it to have any chance of success. In fact, you want a golden year. We will discuss this point later.

So, you moved your Thursday date to Saturday. Yet met a great gal with tremendous potential last week and you move her to the Thursday slot.

Things go well and she starts wondering why you do not see her on Saturday. You respond as discussed above. She starts pressuring you more and more.

You have been seeing her for six weeks now. You dropped one of your other two women. By the eight week point your are going to have to make a decision. If she is pressuring you for exclusivity you will either give it to her, or end the relationship.

Here is what happened with me: Christine (my wife) was pressuring me for commitment. She posted a long break up letter on my bathroom mirror at the 4 and 6 week mark.

Each time we were back together within days. This happens when you are using the Toolbox.

At the seven week mark I was seeing one other women.

One evening she left my house, and five minutes later there was a knock on my door.

It was Christine. She looked very flustered. She said “ I left my jacket here, I need to get it” as she pushed me aside and marched past me.

It was 80 degrees out.

She came back into the living room, stood in front of me and said “I don’t care if you are seeing other women. I am going to fight for you!”

I broke it off with the other women. That was 12 years ago, and I have been with my wife since.

OK...so the main point here is that becoming successful is a process. You must implement the other tools in your box in order to constantly improve.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

Well I think simply put, men are just following woman now.

Most of every guy here has been fvcked up the ass with a toaster losing their special girl. And now want to become a player and never be so vulnerable again.

Woman want complete freedom even if they have kids.

They don't want to commit to anybody.

They just want to carousel until their looks fade and then settle. AND Then still divorce and get a free chit.

Social standards 100 years ago conditioned the younge to value family and have some what of morals. You still meet old couple these days that have been together sence high school, though that generation is dying off now lol.

After the 50s everything went bananas.

If men stood up and took there god givens rights back. We can end this non sense.

Children need their parents. Period.

Children don't need their moms running off to the bars on the weekends getting railed by big bob.

And of course, children don't need there dad's fvcking the neighbor because he's bored of mom lmao

But it's safe to say, 90% of men just want someone to love and have a stable family where they don't have to worry about getting screwed by the government when the chick flees out on some feminine whim..

Also, since nature has been nearly completly harnassed, men have no role anymore.

A single mom can work a coffee stand job full time and take care of her self for her whole life there is almost zero threat in society nowadays, besides rapists..

Everyone i know needed their parents.

I NEEDED MY PARENTS.

Things are evolving quickly and humans can't adapt so fast.

 

[Dr. Reed]

We are seeing behavioral evolution. Social welfare laws were originally designed to protect women from abusive men, alcoholics, cheaters. Originally, our laws were simply protect women and children. Good intentions had unintended consequences.

Guys like seed, as stated, have figured out what is happening and as a result will not step into the traditional roles we had as men. Our laws have created a scenario where it is irrational to marry and have children if you are a reasonably successful guy. Without enough properly trained and raised children, we are doomed.

Also, men are better off in happy stable marriages, as are women and children. But with the rules we have in place chances are you will fail.

My work is a way to make a traditional nuclear family. Phase one, you learn and understand the game. Phase 2, you develop a strategy. Phase 3 you implement that strategy into a system that will increase your chance's. Also, I do not recommend men under the age of 35 getting married.

First, they must master seduction. If you go onto the main forum at this site you will see that these kids are completely lost. They must first master the basics, and that does not happen overnight. It takes time and work. Then it takes lots of practice. Keep in mind, that my first goal is to get men managing 3 woman rotations. All these women are competing for you. That means you are getting the bet sex of your life. All my 3 gals would spend the night That means sex an average of 3 times each, more than most accomplished players. You will be at this phase for while.

I coach men to demand the absolute best from women. If they do not do so, let them go.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Either way, whatever choice one makes, should be the selfish choice, with the best outcome for him.

Personally I believe that it is fundamentally IMPOSSIBLE for humans to NOT act selfishly. Just that we often deceive ourselves into thinking it we're doing it for the "cause' but we're really doing it because, all other choices considered, whatever action we do choose gives us the best "return" (or imagined return) for our "cost" (or imagined cost).

Since we rarely know the totality of our own motivations, it makes it IMPOSSIBLE to know somebody else's TRUE intentions.

Even the idea of "bettering society" is ridiculous because every single person has a slightly different version of what that means.

So any time somebody starts off with "We need to do more/less X otherwise society will break!" I always question their motives, and whether they themselves know their own motives.

Most people have enough trouble figuring out their own choices for their own lives, let alone coming up with an agreed upon "definition" for what "society" (a collection of hundreds of millions all acting with constantly changing intentions) should be like.

To me, it's kind of the same as getting angry that fat people continue to eat junk food. As if they don't know it's bad for them and a lecture will change their behavior.

Most people that are fat WOULD be skinny if it were "easy." A safe "instant healthy pill" would sell out. But fat people continue to eat junk food.

If people can't be bothered to eat right when they KNOW it will help THEM DIRECTLY, it's kind of pointless to think you can get people to alter their behavior to "change society."

 

[Desdinova]

There was a vigorous debate regarding the personal downside of dating a single mom. However there is a larger and more important issue: The negative impact on society.

There are lots of downsides to dating single moms. However, SMs are extremely intriguing to those who want a good, stable, mature woman. She cooks, she cleans, she cannot party or fvck every night. On the surface, she appears to be a great woman.

The downside is she's not a good match because her high score list has someone else at the top of it, most likely the child's dad. You're never gonna live up to the guy and you're never going to displace him on her list. He is stuck there, and you're busy buying junior birthday presents that will forever compete with the gifts every other guy on her high score list is buying for the kid.

It hurts everyone, that is why you must stop enabling this insanity.

I don't see it as "enabling" single moms. The problem is men aren't filtering out the garbage, and then filtering it out even more. I constantly tell men on here that they should NOT be rewarding garbage women with exclusivity. If she has orbiters, throw her away. If she's a wh0re, throw her away. If she treats you badly, throw her away. They don't deserve your exclusivity. Fvck them, throw them away, wipe off your d1ck, and move onto the next.

The bible says no pre marital sex, and fornication or adultery now Im understanding why, the repurcussions have a ripple effect towards everybody.

The bible is dead on when it comes to why women had the social position they used to have. They will change their minds whenever their emotions change. They shouldn't be put into positions of power because they will fvck it up once they feel something different. They should be controlled because not only do they lack self-control, but they respond WELL to being controlled.

Having said that, I want my guys to have as much sex with as many women as possible. I justify this because very few women are worth starting a family with.

The problem with having sex with multiple women who ARE NOT single moms is that you're potentially fvcking them up to the point where they're too damaged to become good companions. It doesn't take much to damage a woman to that point. If you fvck her physically AND emotionally and then throw her away, she's ruined for all the others who try to wife her up after you.

Random sex should only be had with garbage women if we wish to fix our society. If she's over 23 or is a single mom, you've likely found a garbage woman. Feel free to fvck every hole in her body and then throw her useless ass away. Leave the untainted women for those who want a life-long companion.

Like I said, you guys have no incentive to save the world.

The two major things IMO that are fvcking up the world are the following:

1) Extreme Feminism. No self-respecting man wants to fvck a tattoo-covered fat chick with short hair. Also, no decent feminine woman wants to fvck a feminine man who wears pink and is "in touch with his emotions". Attraction cannot happen when the right ingredients aren't there. Masculinity is attractive to women. Femininity is attractive to men. This is biology. This cannot be changed through "social programming".

2) Gay Couples Having Children. If a person is genuinely gay and is NOT attracted to the opposite sex, then they are genetically defective. Natural selection has decided to end this line of genes. Using science to artificially inseminate a gay person is going to carry over their defective genes. Adopting a child is going to cause the child to naturally learn that being gay is an acceptable way of life in terms of sustaining the human race, when it is NOT.

The world population is going to fall into decline because of these two problems. How do we fix it? The answer is not socially acceptable.

It usually takes about two months to know if the person you are dating has Long Term Relationship (LTR) potential.

I disagree. After two months, you are REQUIRED to give her the status of "girlfriend". This is not an option. She will leave if you attempt to string her along for more than two months.

It takes at least one year to know if she's worthy of exclusivity. Sometimes it takes longer especially if there are some things rubbing you the wrong way. If she's still a good woman after five years, you're probably safe.

Women will reveal their garbage side after they no longer feel the need to be on their best behavior. This usually occurs in the 6-12 month range. If you make it to one year, then it's likely that you've got a good idea of what kind of a person she genuinely is.

Early on, you do not take women out on the weekend, especially if you really like her. If you really like a woman, what day of the week should you see her?

Monday through Thursday. Here is why.

Sure, let's go back to the ancient times in seduction and not contact her for three days as well. Sound good?

I don't give a fvck what day is best for dating a woman. I set up dates for days that I'm free, not days that are going to potentially cause her to wonder what I'm doing on other specific days. I don't see the day of the week being a deal breaker on whether you get laid or not. If you've done a good job building rapport, she'll fvck you on any of them.

A less celibate version of anti-dumps machine would be welcome here. I think that material is starting to show it's age.

When I re-vamped the DJ Bible, I think I initially removed all the Anti-Dump stuff because I found it to be just plain ridiculous for the most part. The masses demanded that I keep Anti-Dump intact, so I put it all on the second page. I still think it encourages back-pedaling in the grand scheme of improvement, but some guys still swear by it.