MGTOW movement still around

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Actually, it's the very first message board site that I went to only because a real-life friend recommended it. This was probably in the early 2000s when it was around...now it's greatly improved.

Check out the animation on the opening page...

https://www.mgtow.com/

They really went all out. Professionally done, special effects and all.

You ever read their forums? Is this more red pill-ish as compared to this site? Of course, the only winning move is NOT to play.
 

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I don't think I've ever really "got" what MGTOW is supposed to be about. When I first heard about it, I figured it was about guys who decided they didn't need women in their lives. Then it sounded like you could be MGTOW while living a full blown DJ PUA lifestyle, hitting the clubs every night looking to get laid. So if the latter is true, I don't see what separates MGTOW from regular old PUAs.

Now if some group were to decide to cut women out of their life while they pursued their own thing, THAT would be daring. Count me out (I like balance in my life), but it would be daring.
 

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I always took MGOTW as "I can't get the women I want, so I'm not going to waste any energy on them and just go do things I enjoy"
 

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Guys, this is not about "certain guys not being able to get the girls they want". There is a lot more to life than that. Men are getting ****ed over in so many aspects that I think MGTOW is way too little as a movement.
 

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Guys, this is not about "certain guys not being able to get the girls they want". There is a lot more to life than that. Men are getting ****ed over in so many aspects that I think MGTOW is way too little as a movement.
Okay then, how would you define MGTOW exactly, and how does it differ from the general manosphere/PUA stuff?
 

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Okay then, how would you define MGTOW exactly, and how does it differ from the general manosphere/PUA stuff?
It differs in the sense that it is a movement dealing with a whole bunch of big issues regarding men nowadays. PUA and general manosphere are touching the legal problems men face very lightly as they are mainly into teaching you how to pick up chicks and to be more relaxed about life. Do you see a lot of threads being made here to explain why women get their own way in a horrible way after divorce? How men are being ****ed up starting from kindergarten from female teachers? There is a 1000 things I can list right now that are enraging, but are not considered like this because the world is full of feminists and ***** males.

This community and a lot of other manosphere communities came to life because as you also know, the times we live in call for it. If there were fathers around their children more, we would not need anyone here telling us how and what to do. I am not saying the manosphere is useless if fathers were around, but men who are here lack fatherly role models in different aspects of their life and they come to seek them here. PUA and manosphere deal mostly with the simple and social aspect of what's going on. MGTOW deals more with the scientific, statistical, economic effects that I think are crucial for men to understand.

this video alone would tell you tens of new facts you either did not know or did not think that way before.
 

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I mean, if that video doesn't at least slightly enrage you, I don't know what to say.
 

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What I've never understood is why MGTOW upsets guys who are not MGTOW. Isn't it good for us to have more HOT women for ourselves? Lol.
Oh for sure.

But by and large MGTOW is for guys who couldn't get past the red pill rage. I mean i'm not going to be funny but have you SEEN most of these "mgtowers" on youtube? They couldn't attract a woman even if they wanted to so instead of going through the SERIOUS self improvement they need to, they just go mgtow because it's easy. And blame "all women are lying cheating scum" for them not being able to do the basic part of being a man (having sex)

I don't need to be part of some reverse feminism movement, life's too short. Have fun and bang bitches.

Yeah women can be conniving, mischievous, self serving little bitches, that's how they evolved to survive they can't compete with men physically so that's their play. Don't play them at it duh, be a man.

Getting angry about it a waste of time.
 

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It differs in the sense that it is a movement dealing with a whole bunch of big issues regarding men nowadays. PUA and general manosphere are touching the legal problems men face very lightly as they are mainly into teaching you how to pick up chicks and to be more relaxed about life. Do you see a lot of threads being made here to explain why women get their own way in a horrible way after divorce? How men are being ****ed up starting from kindergarten from female teachers? There is a 1000 things I can list right now that are enraging, but are not considered like this because the world is full of feminists and ***** males.

This community and a lot of other manosphere communities came to life because as you also know, the times we live in call for it. If there were fathers around their children more, we would not need anyone here telling us how and what to do. I am not saying the manosphere is useless if fathers were around, but men who are here lack fatherly role models in different aspects of their life and they come to seek them here. PUA and manosphere deal mostly with the simple and social aspect of what's going on. MGTOW deals more with the scientific, statistical, economic effects that I think are crucial for men to understand.

this video alone would tell you tens of new facts you either did not know or did not think that way before.
The times we live in, most "men" are growing up playing world of warcraft and jerking off into a sock all day.

It's MEN who needs to up their game, we are the leaders of the species, but WE have forgotten how to lead

that's the problem, women have always been the same, it's us who has changed. Into losers.
 

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The times we live in, most "men" are growing up playing world of warcraft and jerking off into a sock all day.

It's MEN who needs to up their game, we are the leaders of the species, but WE have forgotten how to lead

that's the problem, women have always been the same, it's us who has changed. Into losers.
This is exactly what I wanted to say. Why do you think these men are turning to video games and porn (porn I do, too, sometimes) ? Because they are being brought up in single mom families, something widely praised as the "hero mom raising a single child" and they are ***** men. ***** men do not just choose to become ***** men. Most of them are brought up like that from single moms or from families where the woman has shoved the man's balls into his mouth WITH the help of the government. This is a much bigger discussion than this.

And all this happened because they got the right to vote LOL look at who they vote and look at what they vote for. Men wanted to give them freedom and they did. Now men are being cucked for giving women freedom. Had we not have given them freedom, we were the bad, patriarchal men who exploit the poor, unprotected women (the false narrative). You give them freedom, they **** you over. Do you think it's fun to deal with most women nowadays? These self pretentious biatches who are so ready to stick stuff in your face you are not even responsible for? That is why men are turning to video games and porn, because it is peace of mind. A good woman in your life is supposed to help you and ease your mind. Most women nowadays, even when you treat them well, they bust your balls. And what can men do? Women are everywhere. You cannot kill all women LOL you cannot avoid them, they're everywhere.
 

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This is exactly what I wanted to say. Why do you think these men are turning to video games and porn (porn I do, too, sometimes) ? Because they are being brought up in single mom families, something widely praised as the "hero mom raising a single child" and they are ***** men. ***** men do not just choose to become ***** men. Most of them are brought up like that from single moms or from families where the woman has shoved the man's balls into his mouth WITH the help of the government. This is a much bigger discussion than this.

And all this happened because they got the right to vote LOL look at who they vote and look at what they vote for. Men wanted to give them freedom and they did. Now men are being cucked for giving women freedom. Had we not have given them freedom, we were the bad, patriarchal men who exploit the poor, unprotected women (the false narrative). You give them freedom, they **** you over. Do you think it's fun to deal with most women nowadays? These self pretentious biatches who are so ready to stick stuff in your face you are not even responsible for? That is why men are turning to video games and porn, because it is peace of mind. A good woman in your life is supposed to help you and ease your mind. Most women nowadays, even when you treat them well, they bust your balls. And what can men do? Women are everywhere. You cannot kill all women LOL you cannot avoid them, they're everywhere.

Why do video games and all things geeky get a bad rap? It's just a hobby like anything else...and women can be into it, too.

Although I don't do it as much as I used to though...there was a time in my college days and 20s where I played NES/SNES and Mortal Kombat with friends religiously instead of hitting the frat parties. (Weren't my thing)

But apparently with sports fanatics, they don't get a stab at that interest?

But like you said, there's a much bigger discussion going on here.
 

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This is exactly what I wanted to say. Why do you think these men are turning to video games and porn (porn I do, too, sometimes) ? Because they are being brought up in single mom families, something widely praised as the "hero mom raising a single child" and they are ***** men. ***** men do not just choose to become ***** men. Most of them are brought up like that from single moms or from families where the woman has shoved the man's balls into his mouth WITH the help of the government. This is a much bigger discussion than this.

And all this happened because they got the right to vote LOL look at who they vote and look at what they vote for. Men wanted to give them freedom and they did. Now men are being cucked for giving women freedom. Had we not have given them freedom, we were the bad, patriarchal men who exploit the poor, unprotected women (the false narrative). You give them freedom, they **** you over. Do you think it's fun to deal with most women nowadays? These self pretentious biatches who are so ready to stick stuff in your face you are not even responsible for? That is why men are turning to video games and porn, because it is peace of mind. A good woman in your life is supposed to help you and ease your mind. Most women nowadays, even when you treat them well, they bust your balls. And what can men do? Women are everywhere. You cannot kill all women LOL you cannot avoid them, they're everywhere.
Haha, first world problems :rolleyes:



Btw, they have a nice website indeed
 

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Haha, first world problems :rolleyes:



Btw, they have a nice website indeed
Oh, I am so sorry we are not allowed to have problems in the first world, man.
 

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Why does anyone here even care about MGTOW? They are just men who reject women so that DJ's like us have more plates to spine.

I feel the same way about the GAY community. Love them. They give me more options lol.
 

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Once upon a time society was a dog eat dog, cut throat environment. All's fair in love and war type of thing.

Then they invented democracy and the con artists that wanted to be elected into power promised "fairness" to everybody.

For a while it worked, because since the end of the Industrial Revolution, until the 50's (plus or minus a couple decades) every society was GROWING. So it WAS pretty fair.

But it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to with the con artist politicians who promised a fair society.

Problem is growth is OVER. Which means they idea that EVERYBODY can "get some" is OVER.

Which means we're back to the dog eat dog, cut throat, "all's fair in love and war" environment.

MGTOW Is kind of a way to deal with the sad TRUTH that has been TRUE since the dawn of time.

Most dudes just ain't all that, and are lucky to bang a fatty.

The system has ALWAYS been based on lies. It's just now getting a lot easier to see them.

BUT, if you treat it as a dog eat dog, cutthroat, "all's fair in love and war" system and NOT an allegedly "fair" system promised to us by con artist politicians, you can generally do all right.

MGTOW's don't want to acknowledge that. They'd rather cling to the fantasy of a "fair society" where you get something just because you think you "deserve" it.

Nothing ever was fair, nothing ever will be fair.

Accept that and life is a lot easier.
 

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I suppose they are trying to act as a counterweight to feminism. I have no issue with that. The BS woman get away with in the workplace is pretty frightening. My mate it's a hard worker. He works beside a bunch of female change managers. So they go off to the gym in work time and r often "working" from home. The prettiest and laziest of them has been turning up in short skirts lately he figures she's probably up for a promotion.

Personally I'm not much of a joiner. Every so often I get a bit over all the games and go off and do my own thing for a while. During those times I do enjoy telling people who try to shame you that I'm happily single with a big smile. They always look puzzled like they can't understand how that is possible.
 

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Why do video games and all things geeky get a bad rap? It's just a hobby like anything else...and women can be into it, too.
Because majority of the community are social outcast weirdos and are generally uncool. I say this being apart of said community although if you looked at me you could never tell. In pop culture its becoming more accepted to be into these things though.

What I've never understood is why MGTOW upsets guys who are not MGTOW. Isn't it good for us to have more HOT women for ourselves? Lol.
It urkes me because I think it's stupid. These guy are bitter and can't get laid so they cry online. If you check these guys out on Youtube these are guy that couldn't fall into pūssy in a swimming pool for of naked women. Then they get men thinking that its some sort of battle waging against women and they are evil incarnations of Hiter, Satan and Stalin put on earth to thwart men at every turn.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

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