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That's always been true. Well it has NOTHING to do with PHYSICAL attraction. Someone can be attracted and desire wealth that's not theirs... Doesn't make them physically attracted though.
That comment was half-serious, half-trolling just to get tenacity, bigneil, and/or Urbanyst (if he can read my posts) triggered.
 

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Do you biatches get this worked up when your women cause drama and talk schitt? Its not worth it guys.

Lets see who can walk away from this without saying anymore. That's how you keep your power and hold onto your frame.
I'm going to start working on not responding to the bullshyt anymore. It's almost like there's this "thing" in me that feels responsible to POINT out the bullshyt.

I'm going to work on just getting over that and saying fvck it.
 

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I'm going to start working on not responding to the bullshyt anymore. It's almost like there's this "thing" in me that feels responsible to POINT out the bullshyt.

I'm going to work on just getting over that and saying fvck it.
There is nothing not to respond to. You called BTC out as a fraud, and I called you out for baseless accusations. Now take your anger episodes back onto women. There you won't get your azz handed to you.
 

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Tenacity, quite emotional I see. I recommend you read the following at least three times before responding as your post history evinces a paucity of reading comprehension and critical thinking acumen.

We'll begin here:

You are a stock fraud who went to prison for defrauding people (FACT, not my opinion, that's a FACT).
Fact: The charge was "receiving non-disclosed cash commissions paid by the owners of a publicly-traded company" to which my only partner received the benefit of, not fraud. I had no knowledge of the undisclosed commissions. I was 21 yo; my partner 34 yo. I was approached by the prosecutor to rat on my partner (who was being investigated for a similar case), who then ratted on me contriving what he did (undisclosed commissions) upon me. I sold the stock as I was a good salesman who my partner used to perpetuate his gains. The stock was listed on pink sheets, but the investors were aware of this. Once the news went public, the stock got de-listed.

1) I perpetuated no fraud and thus was not a stock fraud (this wasn't even the charge);
2) I did not go to prison for fraud; I went to prison for my partner's collecting non-disclosed cash commissions.

Accordingly, your "fraud" assertion is entirely false.
Tenacity said:
Now you run around telling people to take money out of their stocks/bonds/bank accounts to invest in real estate that is "always going to be cashflow positive" and is "always going to go up 15% per year in appreciation over 20 years".
1 )I never stated to take money out of stocks/bonds/bank accounts. Your assertion is false.

2) I never stated R/E will always be cash flow positive. I did state to find 5+unit residential buildings with DSCRs exceeding 25% in finally strong municipalities with growing populaces. Your assertion is false.

3) I never said that R/E will always appreciate 15% per year over 20 years. I did say that all 5+ residential buildings in strong municipalities with growing populaces have appreciated at least 300% over 20 years. Your assertion is, again, false.

When asked to list ONE property that you recommend with a 20 year track record of a 15% appreciation, you didn't do it.
When you requested to list one property, I stated EVERY 5+unit residential building (which is occupied) in ALL strong municipalities with strong populaces has risen at least 300%. Simple mathematics and investing acumen will show you that 5+ buildings are valued according to their net operating income, and as rents in all strong municipalities with growing populaces have increased over 300% over the last 20 years, net operating income and thus building appreciation, too, have increased by 300+%.

Again, your assertion is false.

- You want info on BeTheChange? I already posted it. Let's just start with the lie he made about his income and net worth. I broke that down right here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/the-real-importance-of-money-in-game.240405/#post-2426418
I see no lie about his income. One can earn 100k/yr. and still be insolvent to the extent of 20k. Further, his 125k net worth could be on paper inclusive of the deal he just structured, and not a realized profit through sale. For example, if you bought 1000 shares of XYZ at $50 and then stock went to $125, your investment would be worth $125k on paper, although the gain has not been realized through a stock sale. Likewise, if he brought the property, the sale of the property has not been effected, but the value is already present.

I see no discrepancy in his statements, as they are reconcilable. What I do see, though, are more false assertions.

- Both of you guys are liars and frauds, NOT because Tenacity "thinks so", I have posted verifiable proof. BeTheChange clearly has been lying about his income/net worth from 2015 until now, and you (Guru) are a convicted felon on the direct account of frauding people.
Ironic after clearly showing how ALL your assertions were false that you throw the "Fraud" label on me, BTC, and PoonKing, and I'm sure others, but one thing you did establish, you are the fraud by attempting to proffer 100% baseless assertions as fact. Further, if a fundamental R/E strategy as I outlined is incomprehensible to you, you are a financial dummy and have no business discussing finance in these forums. Your attempt to argue with a guy who buys MBSs and notes from banks, vacates tax and other liens through preemptive litigation, and extinguishes debts through complex corporate bankruptcy filings about a fundamental R/E buy and hold strategy evinces your naivety (and unfounded hubris) in the finance arena.

As I stated in the other thread, now run along now my little bltch.
 
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Fact: The charge was "receiving non-disclosed cash commissions paid by the owners of a publicly-traded company" to which my only partner received the benefit of, not fraud. I was 21 yo; my partner 34 yo. I was approached by the prosecutor to rat on my partner (who was being investigated for a similar case), who then ratted on me contriving what he did (undisclosed commissions) upon me. I sold the stock as I was a good salesman who my partner used to perpetuate his gains. The stock was listed on pink sheets, but the investors were aware of this. Once the news went public, the stock got de-listed.

1) I perpetuated no fraud and thus was not a stock fraud (this wasn't even the charge);
2) I did not go to prison for fraud; I went to prison for my partner's collecting non-disclosed cash commissions.

Accordingly, your "fraud" assertion is entirely false.
Dress it up however you want. The fact is you are a convicted felon and your time in prison was related to stock fraud. Like I said. Which should ban you professionally from even recommending or advising people on financial matters.

1 )I never stated to take money out of stocks/bonds/bank accounts. Your assertion is false.
When I outlined my plan to grow wealth over 20 - 30 years, which was founded on using Index Funds, you said that plan was "piker shyt" and that you had a much better plan to produce $3 million - $6 million or more over the same period of time....and the plan you detailed was your "real estate" plan. ALL of this is right on the links I posted for people to go see the shyt.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/tenacitys-money-threads.240425/

2) I never stated R/E will always be cash flow positive. I did state to find 5+unit residential buildings with DSCRs exceeding 25% in finally strong municipalities with growing populaces. Your assertion is false.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/tenacitys-money-threads.240425/#post-2426861

You said: As long as rents do not collapse, you will always have enough cash flow to service all the debts of the property and a 25% cash flow cushion.

That's what you said. You said "always" and there are no guarantees in business, especially when you are operating something as difficult with as many nuisances as fvcking real estate.

I see no lie about his income. One can earn 100k/yr. and still be insolvent to the extent of 20k.
That's true, however....the boy said that in 2015 he was LIVING on overdraft. Now you explain to me, how does one make $100,000 per year and be living on overdraft at the same time? Furthermore, what is this guy's expenses? He said he was working in a FIRM in the I-Banking industry, what's with the $20,000 debt and what's with the living on overdraft if you are making 6 figures a year?

You have bashed an aspect of my assets (my business portfolios) as being risky as if the contracts cancel, the assets are lost (which is true). But you are giving BeTheChange a LOT of leeway here with his business deals, why is that? How are my business portfolios full of risk and PIKER shyt, but his real estate deal is non-PIKER shyt and the path to glory?

Ironic, after clearly showing how ALL your assertions were false that you throw the "Fraud" label on me, BTC, and PoonKing, and I'm sure others, but one thing you did establish, you are the fraud.
Poon King was not the Alpha he claimed to be and had multiple fake accounts, YOU (Guru) are a convicted felon, and BeTheChange is a god damn liar.

Now, with that being said, let me be fair/balanced and expose Tenacity (myself).Tenacity is very ambitious and has came through A LOT of shyt in life, but:

- Tenacity is overly fvcking emotional, almost like a bytch sometimes. I believe it's because I didn't have strong male role models growing up. I have a hard time just letting shyt go.

- There's still a lot of shyt about life, women, and other things that piss me off.

- I still feel alone, very alone, like it's me versus the world.

- Internally, I still have a lot of discomfort and a lack of peace in a number of ways, even though I'm financially comfortable, look good, and getting a decent flow of women.

So there you go.....
 

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Dress it up however you want. The fact is you are a convicted felon and your time in prison was related to stock fraud. Like I said. Which should ban you professionally from even recommending or advising people on financial matters.
As already noted, the charge was not fraud. Any criminal charge will bar you from practicing. Your assertion of relating to stock fraud is again false.

When I outlined my plan to grow wealth over 20 - 30 years, which was founded on using Index Funds, you said that plan was "piker shyt" and that you had a much better plan to produce $3 million - $6 million or more over the same period of time....and the plan you detailed was your "real estate" plan. ALL of this is right on the links I posted for people to go see the shyt.
First we must bifurcate investors into two groups: "Pikers" and "Sophisticated Investors." Pikers buys index fund and bonds as their primary source of appreciation. Sophisticated investors do not buy index funds and bonds as their primary source of appreciation. Hence, if you are not a sophisticated investor; you are a novice investor, hence the term piker.

That's what you said. You said "always" and there are no guarantees in business, especially when you are operating something as difficult with as many nuisances as fvcking real estate.
There can be no scenario where you won't have enough cash flow in a 25% DSCR property in a strong muni with growing populace if rents do not collapse. Vacancies in these type of munis do not exist beyond 10% per annum, even in mismanaged properties. I own multiple buildings in these types of munis. I have a waiting list of tenants, and the minute a unit becomes vacant, it's immediately filled. Even in the worse 10% vacancy environment, you will still have positive cash flow. This is akin to saying that if I bought a municipal bond with a prospectus which declared annual returns between 3 to 4.5 annum, that I would imprudent to always expect to get a 3% annual return. There is no difference here between the muni bond and the muni R/E, except that the muni bond carries more speculation because if the muni goes bankrupt, you lose your whole investment; whereas in these specific 25% DSCR 5 unit+ R/Es, if the muni went bankrupt, the population of the muni would still be present to occupy your property and pay the debt expenses till full amortization, thus producing a 400% return alone through payoff of the mortgage balance.
That's true, however....the boy said that in 2015 he was LIVING on overdraft. Now you explain to me, how does one make $100,000 per year and be living on overdraft at the same time? Furthermore, what is this guy's expenses? He said he was working in a FIRM in the I-Banking industry, what's with the $20,000 debt and what's with the living on overdraft if you are making 6 figures a year?
How could you even speculate, could be among thousands of possibilities. $8,333 gross or $5,000 net is BS money. I spend 14k per month personally (you don't want to know the business monthly nut), so I'm not sure how anyone in a high-cost of living area could live on $5K per month L/T. Sure, you could live like a wench, but who desires that kind of lifestyle.
You have bashed an aspect of my assets (my business portfolios) as being risky as if the contracts cancel, the assets are lost (which is true). But you are giving BeTheChange a LOT of leeway here with his business deals, why is that? How are my business portfolios full of risk and PIKER shyt, but his real estate deal is non-PIKER shyt and the path to glory?
Because if you read his posts, at a young 28 y/o, he's got business and R/E acumen. He's no dummy; that's for sure. Most important, the kid's got some set of paradigms.

Poon King was not the Alpha he claimed to be and had multiple fake accounts, YOU (Guru) are a convicted felon, and BeTheChange is a god damn liar.

Now, with that being said, let me be fair/balanced and expose Tenacity (myself).Tenacity is very ambitious and has came through A LOT of shyt in life, but:

- Tenacity is overly fvcking emotional, almost like a bytch sometimes. I believe it's because I didn't have strong male role models growing up. I have a hard time just letting shyt go.

- There's still a lot of shyt about life, women, and other things that I don't fvcking know...don't fvcking understand....and am very LOST on.

- I still feel alone, very alone, like it's me versus the world.

- Internally, I still have a lot of discomfort and a lack of peace in a number of ways.

So there you go....
Well you possess a lot of hubris and are inflexible in thinking (outside the box, others' interpretations, and grander ways to skin a cat), two huge liabilities encumbering your personal and financial growth.
 
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Lock it up! Lock it up! Lock it up!

The time has come Moderators! And we can see it ever so clearly now....


Chain this thread up from anyone else's usage so no one can grab hold of the hatred and negativity that such 'controversy' brings! Bar it from all the plebs of this realm so that the behemoth know as "Butthurt Feeeelingzzz" can no longer overwhelm the posters weak enough to succumb to it's poisonous lure! And END the derailment of this thread by inhibiting the manipulation of such powerful ideas into petty personal insults!

Do you hear the People? They are still chanting! They are still cheering!

Lock it up! Lock it up! Lock it up!

The time has come to an end, and the People are beginning to decide the fate of this thread! What shall it be???

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Oh, it seems to be that most have given the thumbs down....



KILL THE THREAD!
 

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First we must bifurcate investors into two groups: "Pikers" and "Sophisticated Investors." Pikers buys index fund and bonds as their primary source of appreciation. Sophisticated investors do not buy index funds and bonds as their primary source of appreciation. Hence, if you are not a sophisticated investor; you are a novice investor, hence the term piker.
You literally just randomly made this definition up out of thin air, in an attempt to try to insult "Tenacity". You and I BOTH know what a Piker truly means. It means a person that doesn't have goals, doesn't reach for real means of success, and is just accepting of whatever mediocre wave that life sends their way. You randomly made up a new definition because you and I both know, I'm not a piker.

The Pikers are the people who have been shouting money doesn't matter on this forum over the last two weeks. But NOT ONE WORD from you calling them Pikers.

All of this is because of that 2015 argument we had. Before then, you had no issues with Tenacity. You would post in my fitness journals, you would congratulate me when I finally got to my 6 pack, you would do a variety of other things to cheer Tenacity on.

But in 2015, I disagreed with your "magical thinking" thread and ever since .....NOTHING about Tenacity is of quality and Tenacity can't do nothing right. If I cured cancer tomorrow, you would talk shyt about that too.

The moment BeTheChange disagrees with you on something, you will do the same to him. You are NO different than Poon King in this regard. The moment somebody disagreed with Poon King they became a beta fag.got.
 
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Sounds like some deep insecurity here. If BTC were a fraud, other than making you feel insecure, how does HE affect you to prompt such posts repeatedly?

You do realize you have been stalking him. Anything you would like to share with the audience?
I could give two ****s about Tenacity. His perception of reality is worrying, bordering on psychosis. For example he states I claimed I fvcked 15 girls in 2 days (I invite him to post the direct quote and link to corroborate this) when in fact I fvcked 15 girls in 6 or so months. Quite different timelines! But thanks for the support guru.

As I write this post I am literally in the gym of a 5* hotel in Dubai working on my lats. The HB8 I came with, another Italian (Italian-American), is in a sex coma and currently in the king size bed of my Business Class room fully paid for by the company I work for as I'm out here for a week. We seem to both share a penchant for Italian women!

This is what success feels like. Everyday I wake up with a smile. Some BPD nutjob on a seduction forum won't change that.
 
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I could give two ****s about Tenacity. Thanks for the support guru.

As I write this post I am literally in the gym of a 5* hotel in Dubai working on my lats. The HB8 I came with, another Italian (Italian-American), is in a sex coma and currently in the king size bed of my Business Class room fully paid for by the company I work for as I'm out here for a week. We seem to both share a penchant for Italian women!

This is what success feels like. Everyday I wake up with a smile. Some BPD nutjob on a seduction forum won't change that.
To anybody else reading this.....be honest....does any of this sound real?

WTF is a sex coma? See this is what I'm talking about. :rofl:

This MF'er be lying his a.ss off for literally NO reason.
 
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Yeh close this thread because you don't lay hot women use guys claim super models all you want is authority it's over money fame power .
 

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It's sad I seldom come to this forum and this thread is why

Guys still aruging about lame crap that no one in real life gives a **** about

I highly recommend some of you give this site a break, some of yu are waaaaaaaaaay to invested in it emotionally

It makes sense why the "Legends" leave and never come back, I enjoy having discussions like these but than they get derailed by ego bull****. Some of you guys I wonder if you are as successfull as you claim, because you get so butthurt over dumb shyt and the sad part is some of guys are in your 30s and 40s

smh
 

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You literally just randomly made this definition up out of thin air, in an attempt to try to insult "Tenacity". You and I BOTH know what a Piker truly means. It means a person that doesn't have goals, doesn't reach for real means of success, and is just accepting of whatever mediocre wave that life sends their way. You randomly made up a new definition because you and I both know, I'm not a piker.

The Pikers are the people who have been shouting money doesn't matter on this forum over the last two weeks. But NOT ONE WORD from you calling them Pikers.

All of this is because of that 2015 argument we had. Before then, you had no issues with Tenacity. You would post in my fitness journals, you would congratulate me when I finally got to my 6 pack, you would do a variety of other things to cheer Tenacity on.

But in 2015, I disagreed with your "magical thinking" thread and ever since .....NOTHING about Tenacity is of quality and Tenacity can't do nothing right. If I cured cancer tomorrow, you would talk shyt about that too.

The moment BeTheChange disagrees with you on something, you will do the same to him. You are NO different than Poon King in this regard. The moment somebody disagreed with Poon King they became a beta fag.got.
Actually, no. It's a matter of perception. In my previous industry, a broker who thought small, asked for small orders, and got a small paycheck (which was considered 10-20k monthly gross back then) was called a piker. It was a term thrown around a camaraderie of men to prompt men to step up to plate and swing big. The sad part is that YOU out of all in this forum have the most potential to think and be great. I have yet to see you make one post stating, "Hey, I'm going to secure a 5-, 10, 20-million dollar net worth. I may not know how yet, but I will get there." It begins with the paradigm, followed by the thinking ... then the action. Post in this manner, and I'll show you respect.
 

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The sad part is that YOU out of all in this forum have the most potential to think and be great. I have yet to see you make one post stating, "Hey, I'm going to secure a 5-, 10, 20-million dollar net worth. I may not know how yet, but I will get there." It begins with the paradigm, followed by the thinking ... then the action. Post in this manner, and I'll show you respect.
But I've already posted that.

I told you that the $1 million plan is a minimum baseline. I'm shooting to make as MUCH money as possible, that's why I'm working a lot of hours, chose the career I did, and still operate my side investments (active and passive) on the side. I already told you this before.

I never at one time said: "Hey, I just want to make $1 million and that's it". Never said that and that wouldn't even make sense lol. You want to know the REAL reason I get into these arguments with you (and Legend)? I'm actually waiting to learn something new, learn about some new product, new service, new investment, etc., that actually can WORK, that I didn't know of before. Why? So that I can implement it!

You haven't really given me any other ideas other than Day Trading Stocks or buying Real Estate for business purposes. I don't like either of those ideas, do you have any other ones? I honestly prefer operating businesses through selling various products and services directly to the end user.
 

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It's sad I seldom come to this forum and this thread is why

Guys still aruging about lame crap that no one in real life gives a **** about

I highly recommend some of you give this site a break, some of yu are waaaaaaaaaay to invested in it emotionally

It makes sense why the "Legends" leave and never come back, I enjoy having discussions like these but than they get derailed by ego bull****. Some of you guys I wonder if you are as successfull as you claim, because you get so butthurt over dumb shyt and the sad part is some of guys are in your 30s and 40s

smh
You are right Bro, I need to work on not being as emotionally invested. It's just like I said, I actually post my real life on this forum and that's why the emotions come in.

I know it's weird, but this forum is like my Facebook lol. I put up my real life on here, that's why I take it so seriously. But I'm learning how to be more emotionally relaxed over this shyt.
 

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But I've already posted that.

I told you that the $1 million plan is a minimum baseline. I'm shooting to make as MUCH money as possible, that's why I'm working a lot of hours, chose the career I did, and still operate my side investments (active and passive) on the side. I already told you this before.
This is not good enough. Beyond the mil, you do not begin with, "I shooting to make as MUCH money as possible."

1) You don't "shoot" for. You WILL effect the goal. It is an an absolute priority, not wishful thinking. It is a part of YOU, not a vague, distant aspiration that you might one day visit. It is YOU, not outside of you.

2) Be specific with the number. "As much as possible" is not specific.

You haven't really given me any other ideas other than Day Trading Stocks or buying Real Estate for business purposes. I don't like either of those ideas, do you have any other ones? I honestly prefer operating businesses through selling various products and services directly to the end user.
I never suggested that you day trade stocks. I did state that I was trading options but I never recommended that to you or anyone. I even created a thread about trading derivatives with a big disclaimer that if you decide to trade these instruments, be prepared to lose all your money.

I did recommend the most fundamental R/E buy and hold strategy. I have 12 R/E strategies, 11 much more complex than the rudimentary one I described. Granted R/E is not my primary source of income, but primary source of investments. All businesses are my forte. If you have a specific question about a specific business plan, feel free to share. But, again, I have not heard you declare the new, specific, large paradigm that you WILL attain.
 

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Regarding the original tenet of this thread I will say this:

Money matters. It's not everything but it is a measuring stick as you go through life that says a lot about who you are & what you value.

Can you be passionate and devote your life to being in profession such as teaching or social work that isn't going to be lucrative? Sure. And society needs people who are willing to fill those roles. Those roles have value and can massively impact lives.

But the truly ambitious of this world are going to be found slaying dragons & swinging for fences. And the ambitious should never apologize for their aspirations, rather they must get out there & pursue them.

If BTC is in Dubai today with a hot Italian...good for him! Go check out the horse racing...I understand it's amazing...I respect him for getting his goals sorted at a young age and creating a plan to achieve. I wish I had gotten serious about wealth creation in my 20s.

I respect Tenancity for pulling himself out of his car & the hood & getting educated & creating a career from out of nowhere. I admire where Tenacity is heading and see greater self awareness just in the time I've been here.

I respect Guru for having risen fast, fallen, and finding a way to rise again, and I respect greatly his willingness to put out there his story, prison and all. He's served his time & moved on to greater success and I find that admirable. I also find his RE strategies to be solid and valuable for helping those with an interest in RE to find the best opportunities.

This morning I talked to a company in my industry about a senior VP role. Made a cold call to HR yesterday because something popped up on LinkedIn...had the first interview a little while ago. Meanwhile client business & RE is clicking along...

Think BIGGER!!!! Somebody is going to do whatever you dream about doing...it might as well be you. If you are a man out there pursuing his dreams & ambitions in life the women situation will sort itself out.

Throw your hat in the ring! Stretch yourself! Be scared & do it anyway. So much fear is irrationally based. If you start breaking through fear you'll find unlimited possibilities beyond it.

With business, with women, with life.

Go break through your fear and then come back & report how it's going with life & women. It will be night and day different gentlemen ;)

Edit: Goals MUST have specificity or your mind will drift without sufficient focus. Mine is currently 10M net worth by age 54.
 
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This is not good enough. Beyond the mil, you do not begin with, "I shooting to make as MUCH money as possible."

1) You don't "shoot" for. You WILL effect the goal. It is an an absolute priority, not wishful thinking. It is a part of YOU, not a vague, distant aspiration that you might one day visit. It is YOU, not outside of you.

2) Be specific with the number. "As much as possible" is not specific.
But Guru the thing is, we are approaching the same situation just from two different angles. We both have the same goal, just two different approaches.

- You believe in using positive affirmations and from that.....a guy eventually comes across a plan to acquire the level of success he's looking for.

- I believe in using actual research, data, trends, and forecasts to come up with the plan.

That's why the $1 million number is there, because that's a BARE MINIMUM. I haven't gathered enough data, research, and forecasting variables to now say, "Okay, the bare minimum I should hit is at least $3 million." I can't just say that yet.......

I did recommend the most fundamental R/E buy and hold strategy. I have 12 R/E strategies, 11 much more complex than the rudimentary one I described. Granted R/E is not my primary source of income, but primary source of investments. All businesses are my forte. If you have a specific question about a specific business plan, feel free to share. But, again, I have not heard you declare the new, specific, large paradigm that you WILL attain.
I just don't like real estate like that. If my personal situation changes (in combination with local rent prices) I might end up buying a primary residence, but in terms of buying real estate properties to create a business out of it (renting to tenants)? No, I'm just not interested. I don't like having to deal with the nuisances of real estate, some people do though....I'm just not one of them.

I would like to know more ideas on:

- Innovative products and services that are coming down the pike that I can go SELL to consumers, businesses, governments, etc.

- Innovative passive investments that I can add to my diversified portfolio, which might see more stable gains over the next 20 - 30 years compared to stocks and bonds, which the Fed has fvcked up.

- Innovative marketing mediums, channels, devices, etc., that would allow me to better communicate with prospective customers/clients in faster, cheaper, and larger scalable way.
 
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