Women chase losers and could care less about how much money you make

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I just figured a guy whose savvy at business would be a tad more frugual with his money when it came to females.
A $100 date is frugal, even on a national average level. Many of my overnight events cost $1000. The Florida trip cost over $2000.

As a savvy business man, I make money easily, I budget 4-5% to spend on dating (it used to be 10% but I got a raise) and can't think of anything better to spend some of my money on than eating the finest cuisine in the finest resorts with the most beautiful women. Some guys might be happier with a chunky girl at Applebee's and having her put it on her sister's credit card this time, and then having kids with her and hanging out at her sister's where they can save.

To put it in perspective, I spend about the same on dating women as I do on weed.
 

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The thing is @Trump is I understand very well.

It's not nightclub owner versus doctor. A nightclub owner is a businessman. Most doctors are employees. I had doctors to choose from. I picked the nightclub owner (businessman).

Both have status. Both have value in the long game. Service employees like a bartender? Not nearly as much status.

Status is relative and depends on the environment. A nightclub owner would have zero status in an Aboriginal tribe. Status has different standards there. A doctor who is completing his 4th year residency does not have the same status as the hospital chief medical officer (CMO), even though they are both physicians and so on. Status is ALWAYS relative. That's why the thug has status in the hood. He leaves the hood he ain't ****.

Beauty however tends to be more absolute. Disregarding personal taste & preference a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman wherever she goes.

Beauty does fade and men can always become more successful. There are always beautiful women for high status men to choose from.

My question to you @NSX-R is more complex. Where do you fall on the status spectrum in Zurich? It is awesome that you out earn 90% of your peers. But your observation about still finding hot women to be scarce would indicate that your peers are NOT who you are competing against. My guess is you are competing against older, wealthier, more influential and more successful men. Men with higher relative status than you have at the moment. Figure out how to elevate yourself into those circles and you'll find that's where the women are that you want.

Comparing yourself to your peers is for schoolboys. You have to look at the whole landscape and accurately assess where you fit in it.

The good news is you can increase your stature if you gain an understanding of the environment where you exist and work toward that goal.
 

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I agree, money is essential to life. However, I hate this idea about money being used as an offense. Money is a DEFENSE, not an offense! I can have 4 million dollars in my bank account right now, but how will women know this unless I'm just flaunting my bank statement on Tinder or in the club? This is why Money is a defense because it doesn't attract women towards you, it helps retain them! An offense is Game, status, living in a good location, looks, a job that gives you access to women, and etc. If you want to attract more women than you need to focus on your OFFENSE!
I don't totally agree.

You'll notice that once a man is stinking rich, he will ALWAYS have a HOT woman on his arm. When a man is homeless he will NEVER have a hot woman on his arm. MONEY is the only factor here that makes the difference.. because rich men come in all ages, races, heights and levels of attractiveness. Same with poor men. MONEY makes the difference.

MONEY is the most important factor in modern life and dating. Its not the only factor, but its the most important factor. No way around it.
 

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First, would you prefer being broke at 37 with a married mother of your kids?
I cant really answer analogies that go one extreme or the other. Obviously no one wants to be poor and homeless, but do people want to be rich and all alone forever? Analogies should be relative for it to work.

Second, this is absolutely false. Here are some examples from THIS WEEK:

1) At age 46, I just had my first date last night with a 24 year old waitress with no kids who has never married. She is about HB8.
2) Tonight I have to go see a HB7 31 year old bartender, never married no kids.
3) For the past 7 months I've dated a HB9 21 year old stripper who has no kids.

So there are 3 girls, average HB8, average age difference 21 years younger, just this week.
Props bro. I'm younger than you and don't think I could be seen with 24 year 25 year olds. I could have sex with them, but wouldn't have much in common with them.

Trump says: Men who have money around age 37 have no women without kids.
Reality says: Men who have money around age 47 have virtually unlimited women without kids.
Again props. I cannot get 30+ women to call back, I got more money and game than all my friends combined. Still think it's about height, hair, environment, luck and manipulation. o_O
 

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An Asian girl you went Dutch with who you are saying is an HB9 model and put out? How long have you known her. Photos?

I took the hottest girls I saw in every place I saw them, as always.
You'll never get any pics or verification out of BeTheSame cause he literally makes up shyt as he goes.

I have caught this guy in so many lies it's pathetic. I'm done exposing him.
 

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I date the hottest of 9s regularly in NYC. Here is the reality about money:

When I meet these women, they have no idea of my net worth. All they see is my appearance and my game.

Granted my appearance costs thousands between upkeep and wardrobe but certainly not hundreds of thousands or millions. So to attract the hottest of women, I do agree that you will need at least thousands of dollars for your appearance.

Now ... after I attract them, I date them. Eventually, they will have to see my car(s) or where I live. When they do, these women become soldiers.

Appearance and Game = Attracts
Money = Ensures their loyalty

Counterclaim: Yes, there are men who use status and money anchors to attract the hottest women. And yes, I probably would if I needed to, but I never needed to.
 
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An Asian girl you went Dutch with who you are saying is an HB9 model and put out? How long have you known her. Photos?

I took the hottest girls I saw in every place I saw them, as always.
Italian not Asian brother.

Objectively she is an HB8 minimum lookswise. I gave her a 9 because personally I value qualities like high intelligence, pedigree (old money family basically) and ambition when they're combined with spectacular looks.

Her desire to fvck me was probably more to do with my looks and attitude than the contents of my wallet and this is almost always the case for the vast majority of hot, young women.

Although to be fair her eyes did light up when I told her I was going to Dubai for a week on business tonight and she gave the best "don't forget me" sex I've had in a while.

So what am I saying? That like everything in life there are no absolute answers. Money, status, looks. ALL MATTER.

  • Location / Acessibility
  • Status - which is NOT objective (for more on why see Rollo's contextual alpha)
  • Looks
  • Money
In that order.
 

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Italian not Asian brother.

Objectively she is an HB8 minimum lookswise. I gave her a 9 because personally I value qualities like high intelligence, pedigree (old money family basically) and ambition when they're combined with spectacular looks.

Her desire to fvck me was probably more to do with my looks and attitude than the contents of my wallet and this is almost always the case for the vast majority of hot, young women.

Although to be fair her eyes did light up when I told her I was going to Dubai for a week on business tonight and she gave the best "don't forget me" sex I've had in a while.

So what am I saying? That like everything in life there are no absolute answers. Money, status, looks. ALL MATTER.

  • Location / Acessibility
  • Status - which is NOT objective (for more on why see Rollo's contextual alpha)
  • Looks
  • Money
In that order.
If anybody believes this fraud I have no idea what to say?

- The guy claims he meets unicorns every day of the week, but isn't in an LTR.

- He claims he slept with 15 women over the course of 2 days. (Not lying, I can post the link to verify)

- He loses his temper, beats women, gets arrested for it, then claims his "inner game" is SOUND. (Not lying, I can post the link to verify)

- He comes on this board in 2015, saying he works in the I-Banking field making $90,000 - $150,000 per YEAR. Then, just last week, he comes out on his journal saying in 2015 he was LIVING on overdraft with debt up to his a.ss (Not lying, I can post the link to verify)

I've had enough of these god damn posers, liars, and frauds on this website....who are so focused on logging in here to create some ONLINE cartoon character, rather than logging in here to focus on fixing issues that they have.

I post my life on this god damn board. And it pisses me off with people like THIS GUY who come on here and just lie, lie, lie, and fvcking LIE about everything.
 

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If anybody believes this fraud I have no idea what to say?

- The guy claims he meets unicorns every day of the week, but isn't in an LTR.

- He claims he slept with 15 women over the course of 2 days. (Not lying, I can post the link to verify)

- He loses his temper, beats women, gets arrested for it, then claims his "inner game" is SOUND. (Not lying, I can post the link to verify)

- He comes on this board in 2015, saying he works in the I-Banking field making $90,000 - $150,000 per YEAR. Then, just last week, he comes out on his journal saying in 2015 he was LIVING on overdraft with debt up to his a.ss (Not lying, I can post the link to verify)

I've had enough of these god damn posers, liars, and frauds on this website....who are so focused on logging in here to create some ONLINE cartoon character, rather than logging in here to focus on fixing issues that they have.

I post my life on this god damn board. And it pisses me off with people like THIS GUY who come on here and just lie, lie, lie, and fvcking LIE about everything.
Sounds like some deep insecurity here. If BTC were a fraud, other than making you feel insecure, how does HE affect you to prompt such posts repeatedly?

You do realize you have been stalking him. Anything you would like to share with the audience?
 

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If anybody believes this fraud I have no idea what to say?

- The guy claims he meets unicorns every day of the week, but isn't in an LTR.

- He claims he slept with 15 women over the course of 2 days. (Not lying, I can post the link to verify)

- He loses his temper, beats women, gets arrested for it, then claims his "inner game" is SOUND. (Not lying, I can post the link to verify)

- He comes on this board in 2015, saying he works in the I-Banking field making $90,000 - $150,000 per YEAR. Then, just last week, he comes out on his journal saying in 2015 he was LIVING on overdraft with debt up to his a.ss (Not lying, I can post the link to verify)

I've had enough of these god damn posers, liars, and frauds on this website....who are so focused on logging in here to create some ONLINE cartoon character, rather than logging in here to focus on fixing issues that they have.

I post my life on this god damn board. And it pisses me off with people like THIS GUY who come on here and just lie, lie, lie, and fvcking LIE about everything.
We're on the internet, I'm afraid. You have to take everything you read with a pinch of salt.
 

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If Trainwreck analyzed the victims of World War 2 carpet bombers he'd say "Bombs land in random fields and do little damage. Civilians have nothing to worry about".
 

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Now, who's hot who not
Tell me who rock who sell out in the stores
You tell me who flopped who copped the blue drop
Who jewels got robbed who's mostly Goldie down
To the tube sock, the same ol pimp
Mase, you know ain't nothing change but my limp
Can't stop till I see my name on a blimp
Guarantee a million sales pulling all the love
You don't believe in Harlem World nigga double up
We don't play around it's a bet lay it down
Nigga didn't know me ninety-one bet they know me now
I'm the young Harlem nigga with the Goldie sound
Can't no PHD niggas hold me down, Cooter
Schooled me to the game, now I know my duty
Stay humble stay low blow like Hootie
True pimp niggas spend no dough on the booty
 

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- Dude has been in this thread responding to opinions I've posted, yet I'm stalking him?
- Dude is a LYING fraud, I've already proved it through various links.
Show the evidence that BTC is a lying fraud. Let's see whether the statements you make are substantiated or baseless.

- Just like you're a SCAM artist, who advises people to not be a "Piker" by investing in stocks, bonds, CDs, and savings accounts....and to instead redirect their money into some sort of fantasy real estate that continues to appreciate for 30 years at a rate of 15% to 20% per year.
If I am a scam artist, tell me what exactly I am doing today which is a scam. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

Further, what exactly about the fundamental real estate strategy that I delineated is a fantasy. Explain. I am waiting.

- And using your logic (that if I believe someone is a fraud, thus, why give them attention) if you believe I'm a Piker and Steve Urkel, why do you give me attention then?
Out of amusement. Some people like to watch football. I like to abuse and expose Tenacity for who he truly is.

Shouldn't you be out promoting your Real Estate Scam to other gullible people, just like you did your stock scam a couple years ago that you went to prison for?
Again, show me how the R/E plan I delineated is a scam. If you cannot, this means all your claims are baseless, and YOU now have become the scam.
 

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Honestly I can respect that. It's the guys like Trainwreck who's like "how can I get women to know I have $4 million on tinder?" that I clown on. Somehow he has a hard time believing that a 4 mil deposit would make dating women easier. That's really overboard to the point where you question his sanity.
I don't even have a tinder in the first place. I asked you a simple question and you failed to answer it. I think you are just upset I don't agree with your third world pu$$y paradise strategy.
 

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Do you biatches get this worked up when your women cause drama and talk schitt? Its not worth it guys.

Lets see who can walk away from this without saying anymore. That's how you keep your power and hold onto your frame.
 

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Trust me being upset is the further thing lol. For me to be upset would require me to take you seriously. Any guy who says "whats the point of having money? How will women on tinder know i have 4 million?" Has to be the dumbest motherfvker alive. I dont normally clown on people. But you are no doubt the biggest nut case ive ever met on an online forum. 100% of guys wouldnt even think of tinder as soon as they get a 4 million bank deposit. Except for this weirdo. He actually uses tinder as a case for why money doesnt matter. You cant make this up.
Will you ever answer the question Mr. I am not mad?
 

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Hey Bradd80, I had a dream last night: I was in an out-of-state lounge picking up some model, and then I saw another guy adjacent to me picking up her friend. So I approached him and said he looked familiar. He said, "Of course, I do, I'm Bradd from SoSuave." So we started hanging out, the four of us, and smoked a cigar. I kid you not.
 
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