Mathematical Proof: Money > 0

[bigneil]

• Corollary A: Money doesn't bring you happiness. It is meaningless. People who brag about money are empty. Money is nothing.
• Corollary B: She's only using him for his money. She doesn't care about him at all. To her, Money is everything.
• Postulate: When you find the right girl and make love to her, you discover that the true meaning of life is Love.

Needle off record. Do you see the problem here? We are in a forum that seeks women and love (a postulate is something we don't question), and yet are oscillating between two theories than CANNOT COEXIST. Money can't be nothing and everything at the same time.

If money can bring us women and women can bring us love, then money can bring us love. So therefore, money is closer to everything (love) than nothing.

 

[Trainwreck]

I see plenty of broke guys having zero issues with women. I see plenty of rich guys having zero issues with women. Want to know who I do see having issues with the most women? Mr. Boring, stability, play it safe, save your way in to a million dollars by not going to starbucks/delayed gratification, doesn't workout, paranoid about retiring early, drives a mid-late 2000s Camry or other boring car, boring analyst job, middle of the road guy. Why? Because these guys are boring af, narcissistic, lazy, and have nothing fun to offer women in life.

 

[The Duke]

If money can bring us women and women can bring us love, then money can bring us love. So therefore, money is closer to everything (love) than nothing.

If you really think she loves you, then shut off the money and observe what happens.
Something tells me that you are trying to convince yourself that this girl loves you as much as you love her.

I have a friend that thinks money is the end all to getting girls. He tries to dress the part as well. He tends to attract a lot of broke girls looking for a free ride to the good life.

Remember J. Howard Marshall and Anna Nichole Smith?

I'm not going to say money doesn't give you access to attractive women. It definitely does. The downside is that it attracts the wrong types.

 

[Urbanyst]

If you really think she loves you, then shut off the money and observe what happens.
Something tells me that you are trying to convince yourself that this girl loves you as much as you love her.

I have a friend that thinks money is the end all to getting girls. He tries to dress the part as well. He tends to attract a lot of broke girls looking for a free ride to the good life.

Remember J. Howard Marshall and Anna Nichole Smith?

I'm not going to say money doesn't give you access to attractive women. It definitely does. The downside is that it attracts the wrong types.

Do girls love anyone?

Try becoming a homeless mountain man living with wolves and see how many women love you.

Take your blue pill stuff somewhere else. Money does not attract the "wrong types" of women. It attracts high value women. Why do you think just about anyone with a brain would gladly take a check for 1 Million dollars?

 

[user43770]

Try becoming a homeless mountain man living with wolves and see how many women love you.

 

[The Duke]

Do girls love anyone?

Try becoming a homeless mountain man living with wolves and see how many women love you.

Take your blue pill stuff somewhere else. Money does not attract the "wrong types" of women. It attracts high value women. Why do you think just about anyone with a brain would gladly take a check for 1 Million dollars?

Blue Pill is using your money in hopes that someone will be attracted and like you more. That's what white knights do. Its going on SeekingArrangements and buying a date you couldn't get with out paying. You don't have the allure so you use money to create attraction.

I hang out in two of the most expensive luxury bars in my city. These two places have a reputation for attracting wealthy professional men and its obvious by the cars that get parked out front. I've also met several and know what they do for a living. Guess who also shows up? Lots of highly attractive women. More than any other bar you will go to. In the past month, I've met two hookers and one sugar baby that got busted for cocaine when it fell out of her purse. So if you call that "high value", I guess we will just have to disagree. You don't see hookers and sugar babies working guys at other types of bars.

Be mindful of what you attract when you throw money around.

 

[Trump]

All I gotta say is that every HB 8+ are looking for chemistry...............BUT if they find out you don't have a career and your own place, they will be stupefied. It is as if they assume you have A: your own place. B: a career. C. A car. This is my experience with 95% of hot women. I am not enlightened. I am not all knowing. I am simply realistic.

Bro you may be right but your point keeps imposing on the male gender. If the man needs to have a) own place b) car c) career, what does the hot women need to have, a working set of lady parts? It has to work both ways, she has to offer MORE than movie star looks.

If you are physically fit, have your own place and car, and live on your own, most women will be able to move on to your personality. But if you are broke, most women will look at you like you are fvcking weird for even playing the game as a broke bum.

You may have a point, but again the 2 things are NOT related. I have a lot of assets, own car, own place, etc,etc and live in a City where males outnumber females. I cannot just pick up and move because there may or may not be more girls elsewhere. All my friends are married and have less money and game than me.

What does GAME boil down to? Height, Hair and Luck.

 

[bigneil]

If you really think she loves you, then shut off the money and observe what happens.
Something tells me that you are trying to convince yourself that this girl loves you as much as you love her.

I did that a long time ago. Something tells me you are trying to convince yourself that you're better off having a woman who isn't this hot.

I do know that she has sex with me as much as I have sex with her.

After taking her to visit them, when I pulled into my parents driveway I realized they had bought a brand new Mercedes. My girlfriend told my stepdad that her dad collects them. They had a great conversation about car racing. My parents loved her. They said she was beautiful, engaging, engaged in the conversation and loving.

Some girls grew up in a classy environment and know how to maintain one.

 

[Juanto]

who isn't this hot.

She really isnt that hot, mate.

 

[bigneil]

Blue Pill is using your money in hopes that someone will be attracted and like you more. Be mindful of what you attract when you throw money around.

Do you mean like Donald Trump who spent Billions of his own money to become President of the United States of America and save Western Civilization from being overrun by non-Christian, third-world savages on taxpayer dole?

She really isnt that hot, mate.

Mate? Who are you supposed to be, Crocodile Guacamol-dee?

Winner! Lamest non-argument in SS history. Quick! Let's hear one random opinion without any backing evidence. Random people's biased opinions notwithstanding, we are going by the official Photo Feeler rating of 99 for now.

You don't have the allure so you use money to create attraction.

Don't have what allure? The allure to get famous models so I settle for women who look like famous models?

 

[RangerMIke]

It isn't the money most women are interested in. It is what having money represents. If you have money than that means you have value to other people. Which indicates you are useful. There are chicks that only care about money... they are called gold-diggers, they are easy to spot and easy to avoid... just do not spend money on them. However there are rich fools that waste good money on these chicks because they really do not understand women.

It is your ability to give value to others that is attractive to women (i.e social status). The presence of money is only 'attractive' to women, but it is not what women find interesting.

 

[El Payaso]

women can bring us love

That statement couldn't be any further from reality.

 

[bigneil]

That statement couldn't be any further from reality.

Reality couldn't be further from reality? What do you call this theory? The Pelosi effect?

You prefer men to bring us love?

Love is an emergent property of holding another object. Any object can bring love. I find love holding the most gorgeous 21 year old women.

It isn't the money most women are interested in. It is what having money represents. If you have money than that means you have value to other people. Which indicates you are useful. There are chicks that only care about money... they are called gold-diggers, they are easy to spot and easy to avoid... just do not spend money on them. However there are rich fools that waste good money on these chicks because they really do not understand women.

It is your ability to give value to others that is attractive to women (i.e social status). The presence of money is only 'attractive' to women, but it is not what women find interesting.

Exactly. You'd like Stephan Molyneux. He makes it clear - "You need to provide value to the world to thrive. Sex is about resources for eggs. Welfare is about unattractive women taking the money from the husbands of attractive women."

FACE IT, MEN - you are better off becoming twice as wealthy than you are becoming twice as pretty. Money IS allure.

 

[El Payaso]

Reality couldn't be further from reality? What do you call this theory? The Pelosi effect?

You prefer men to bring us love?

Love is an emergent property of holding another object. Any object can bring love. I find love holding the most gorgeous 21 year old women.


Exactly. You'd like Stephan Molyneux. He makes it clear - "You need to provide value to the world to thrive. Sex is about resources for eggs. Welfare is about unattractive women taking the money from the husbands of attractive women."

That's not reality. It's a fantasy. Women can bring you many things. Companionship, entertainment, troubles etc but not love. The only woman that can ever truly love a man is his mother and even at that not all mothers are loving. For any other woman, men are just an avenue for status, entertainment, exploitation and more. "Love" is certainly not one of them.

The fact that you make up such a silly equation of money = women = love proves my point. The woman in your equation is in love with money not the man.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I have a better idea for this whole money does/doesn't matter debate. What happened to developing your OWN game? For some people, money is what they need to do good with women. For others, it is not the case. What if both points are true?

Find your own truth.

You shouldn't have to be told how to live. You have to figure it out on your own. Others can just show you different paths, but you need to discover what works best for you. Find your own truth.

 

[bigneil]

That's not reality. It's a fantasy. Women can bring you many things. Companionship, entertainment, troubles etc but not love.

Fine. I'll settle for a woman who can truly f*ck a man.

The woman in your equation is in love with money not the man.

Not an argument. You think you can remotely declare that a woman is using a man?

Even if it is true, I'm the man earning the money she's in love with, so what's the difference between that and being the man born with the DNA she is in love with?

Here is what my Physical trainer said (who saw her before I started working out) "You two were GLOWING. It couldn't be more obvious. She is in love with you." A hot bartender friend agreed. Even my mom agreed. She hates every girl I date.

That said, I might leave her anyway. I'm getting bored after having more sex than with any other girl since 1993.

 

[resilient]

if they find out you don't have a career and your own place, they will be stupefied. It is as if they assume you have A: your own place. B: a career. C. A car. This is my experience with 95% of hot women.

Lol. So a guy who is in the middle of a career transition, frugal with money, saving up for grad school is fubar in the dating game, eh? At the very least, no LTRs for this DJ for 95% of hot women.

 

[bigneil]

Lol. So a guy who is in the middle of a career transition, frugal with money, saving up for grad school is fubar in the dating game, eh? At the very least, no LTRs for this DJ for 95% of hot women.

Yes. You are a charity. Hope she is very drunk and you are within 10 feet and you still have hope.

That said, this is OFF TOPIC. Why are we focusing on me? This is generic. If money brings women, and women bring happiness, then money brings happiness (even if she is faking it - who cares if she is faking it? Do you watch porn and say "that girl is only doing triple anal for the money!")

 

[The Duke]

Do you mean like Donald Trump who spent Billions of his own money to become President of the United States of America and save Western Civilization from being overrun by non-Christian, third-world savages on taxpayer dole?


Mate? Who are you supposed to be, Crocodile Guacamol-dee?

Winner! Lamest non-argument in SS history. Quick! Let's hear one random opinion without any backing evidence. Random people's biased opinions notwithstanding, we are going by the official Photo Feeler rating of 99 for now.


Don't have what allure? The allure to get famous models so I settle for women who look like famous models?

BigNeil- I like you big boy, but you are a blowhard and its time to reel you in some.

On every other thread you are talking about how hot your girl is and how much money you have and then you try and throw in some 3rd grade mathematical lesson. If you were really all of that you wouldn't feel the need to remind us 3 times a day.

Trump used his money to become president......you used your money to get some girl that is only famous on some random photo ranking website we have never heard of. She is no Victoria Secret or top ranked Ford model. Yeah I think Trump made a smarter choice.

I've dated a former Hawaiian Tropic Model. Even had one that was a Coors Light Model. My exwife modeled. One of my girlfriends modeled for a cosmetic company. The girl I date now was asked by Playboy to do a test photoshoot of some sort. But guess what, I'm not here reminding SS every day trying to convince my ego I am all that. And people who have serious money don't do that either.

 

[fastlife]

The hottest women want to feel something--they want novelty, they want excitement, they want the emotional roller coaster. Money can provide that--but hardly necessary--and like other posters have touched on, money also represents stability, responsible life decisions, 'playing it safe.' When she's 27, you'll be hot sh1t lol. But at 19--nah. Unless she's from a stolidly blue collar background. Nursing students, service industry, etc.--and you'll be her ticket to a better life.

I mostly play with girls who have daddy's money. Emotional provisioning? In spades. Economic provisioning? Likewise. What do these girls lack?

That's what I provide. A little unpredictability, maybe a little danger, an escape from Christmas card portraits & fancy brunches & well, every other guy wants something from her & expects her to act like a lady & I won't even be seen in public with her.

Lol. So a guy who is in the middle of a career transition, frugal with money, saving up for grad school is fubar in the dating game, eh? At the very least, no LTRs for this DJ for 95% of hot women.

Just downplay those factors upfront. Tell them you're a male dancer at a gay club. Refuse to give them too much personal information--'she's probably married with a husband who's going to try to fight you and you've been there and done that.' After you've been sleeping with her a couple weeks then the frog can turn into a prince & she'll be pissed off which will give you an opportunity to reframe--'I wanted a girl who wanted me for something other than my potential'--and spike her emotions (FEELZ!) & it'll be about at the stage where she wants insurance that all that sex that could result in an offspring won't leave her totally high & dry.

I had hard economic times this past fall & was living back at home for a couple months. There was a girl I dated for about 3 months--the first month all I did was pick her up in my car and drive her to a parking lot lol. You should've seen how excited she was when I finally told her my real name. Eventually, she wanted dinner dates & she knew I was hard up--so she paid my way. Do you think she'll ever get that experience from a guy ever again?

Stop thinking so logically & start making adventures for the girl to live through.