Try again or next?

[wonderer]

I got my first every insta date with a cute brunette 18 yr old Ukrainian, well dressed and thin nice body.

She is in my city for another 2 weeks to study then she goes back north. I took her for a day 3 yesterday and I went for the kiss, she pulled back, and said "you know we're only friends" I said yeah I know haha then started to walk away, she then said now I feel bad, I said its fine. I havent messaged her since.

She was asking me if it was a bet to come up to her that day, was confused as to what I was getting from speaking with her, she asked friendship all confused, shes only here for awhile.

I had made it known to her that I thought she was attractive, spiking, saying she had nice eyes, qualifying her other than looks too.

Now im unsure what to do, Im daygaming again tomorrow to try and get more plates, but this one do I drop completely / see if she chases, or message like nothing happened, try and get her out and try and close again.

 

[Roober]

Date 3? Sounds like you didn't escalate properly and she didn't see you as a sexual being. This is why I always go for the kiss on the first date. You will be able to gauge interest and determine how she looks at you (friend or otherwise). I would be interested to see how others would handle this...

a couple things...
-when she gave you the friends comment... maybe should have responded with "we are?"
-Also, hold off on compliments longer, unless part of your initial set... give yourself away by qualifying her, kino, and escalation, not by compliments. Women have to earn compliments!

 

[lizardking82]

This only plays out in one scenario, if you want my opinion: you text her with an exact meeting place and time. If the answer is anything else then "yes" or "OK", I think that ship has already sailed then.

 

[wonderer]

Date 3? Sounds like you didn't escalate properly and she didn't see you as a sexual being. This is why I always go for the kiss on the first date. You will be able to gauge interest and determine how she looks at you (friend or otherwise). I would be interested to see how others would handle this...

a couple things...
-when she gave you the friends comment... maybe should have responded with "we are?"
-Also, hold off on compliments longer, unless part of your initial set... give yourself away by qualifying her, kino, and escalation, not by compliments. Women have to earn compliments!

First time we met I instantly took for coffee during the day. yesterday was 2nd "real" date

 

[wonderer]

bump

 

[C00lAF]

Just put alchol in her system and make this whole **** easier

 

[devilkingx2]

I'd say that ship has sailed if she doesn't even let you get a kiss and thinks you're friends. I hope you aren't paying for these dates lol

 

[RangerMIke]

If she rejects your kiss you are done. Move on, she isn't interested. When she said, "You know we are friends, right?" You should have said "You know I want more than that." Then without letting her say another word, smile and say "I have plenty of 'friends' already.", turn your back and walk away.

Nothing is going to happen with this chick, but at least she will respect you if you walk away.

 

[Juanto]

If she rejects your kiss you are done. Move on, she isn't interested. When she said, "You know we are friends, right?" You should have said "You know I want more than that." Then without letting her say another word, smile and say "I have plenty of 'friends' already.", turn your back and walk away.

Nothing is going to happen with this chick, but at least she will respect you if you walk away.

Had exactly this with my current plate. 2 dates and rejected my kisses, told her no 3rd date was going to happen coz I wasn't interested in friendship (she also called me friend). Couple of days later she reached out to me and asked to meet me, and in that one got plenty of kissing going on

 

[BeExcellent]

Women know whether they are interested in you sexually or not right away MOST of the time. Not always but most of the time.

There's nothing sexier than a man acting manly and going in for the kiss on the first date. That leaves no doubt about his desire, which leaves no confusion.

If she likes you she will respond well to being desired by you. Women who like you WANT to be desired by you! If she doesn't, she won't. This is why you should escalate. It cuts right through all the bs.

Now there will be a small % of women who are either on the fence about you or genuinely bashful that it may take a second or third encounter with...and you'll have to decide if those girls warrant more of your time...

It's a wonderful thing as a woman when you know a man who you like wants you sexually.

So escalate for the kiss and go from there. Too many men fail to escalate & then wonder why they are confused! Escalate! Kiss her! You can't know the answer if you don't pose the question

 

[AlphaNate]

Try again or next?

GUYS, if you have to ask this, you already know the answer.

Pat yourself on the back for being self-aware and move on.

 

[wonderer]

Update:

I was kissing her last night.

I dropped her a message after the rejected kiss and friend speech to see if things were weird or not, I had no intention of anything. She responded fine, I left it at that. Im done. A few days later she initiates a text, I reply, she asks when Im off work, I see where this is going and think im going to try one more time, ask her out and she agees. I'm going to escalate, Im going to go for this kiss again, if I get rejected I'm out.

Date came round, shes responsive, kino is good, talk is good. I drop her off, she stands there, I take one step in, shes not moving back, I lean in - SLOW, testing the waters, shes not moving, boom, kiss, shes not pulling out, when I pull out she goes in again, shes into it big time, my hands go everywhere, up shirt, back of bra, you get the idea...

shes here for another week and a half, need to get the bang in.

Seems like the second chances Ive been giving have been working out, I havent been an advocate of high interest or drop from my personal experience.

 

[Young OG]

Update:

I was kissing her last night.

I dropped her a message after the rejected kiss and friend speech to see if things were weird or not, I had no intention of anything. She responded fine, I left it at that. Im done. A few days later she initiates a text, I reply, she asks when Im off work, I see where this is going and think im going to try one more time, ask her out and she agees. I'm going to escalate, Im going to go for this kiss again, if I get rejected I'm out.

Date came round, shes responsive, kino is good, talk is good. I drop her off, she stands there, I take one step in, shes not moving back, I lean in - SLOW, testing the waters, shes not moving, boom, kiss, shes not pulling out, when I pull out she goes in again, shes into it big time, my hands go everywhere, up shirt, back of bra, you get the idea...

shes here for another week and a half, need to get the bang in.

Seems like the second chances Ive been giving have been working out, I havent been an advocate of high interest or drop from my personal experience.

Nice. If she's only around for another week and half, then I would definitely try to get her back to your place asap.

 

[wonderer]

Nice. If she's only around for another week and half, then I would definitely try to get her back to your place asap.

Bit of a problem, she lives with a host family so I cant go there, and I live with my family so she cant come here, shall I get a hotel and try and get her back??

 

[Young OG]

Bit of a problem, she lives with a host family so I cant go there, and I live with my family so she cant come here, shall I get a hotel and try and get her back??

You should really get your living situation fixed. Get out on your own or with a roommate. Late at night, I used to always bring girls into my parents house after they went to sleep.

I would try to see if she wants to go somewhere private during the next date. If she agrees, then suggest a hotel

 

[wonderer]

I did the car tactic. I got her to the back of the car, she was playing with my d*ick. She wouldn't let me touch her p*ssy. I was push / pulling for an hour no luck. Going to town on her neck, me on top her on top, you get the idea.

I kept saying I wanted to **** her, statement of intent. She said do you want to meet tomorrow, what don't you want me to wear, she wasn't wearing a bra, I said all your underwear.

She actually leaves Sunday so tonight is the last night. I'll get her all hot and bothered in the car again then suggest somewhere private then bang her in a hotel. This is my plan

 

[narcissist]

Good luck. You got this brother.

 

[wonderer]

I banged her.

Plan worked perfectly, took her to a carpark got her hot and bothered and said too many people around lets go to a hotel.

Got to the hotel and she would not get off me for 3 hours. Bit dissapointed at my performance as I prob banged her 20 mins out of the 3 hours, rest was fingering and going down on her. Her p*ssy was so tight I found it difficult to get it in, and I couldnt stay hard for a full 3 hours. This B*tch was kinky and dirty, shed deep throat my fingers after fingering her and suck my d*ck after f*cking her, I made her *** between 5-10 times, I asked how many times do you want to ***, she said as many as you make me. Head was phenomenal, body was very good, shed be on top of me and I wanted to f*ck her so bad. She would not let me have a breather for some water, I wanted to rest and try again b*tch was unstoppable.

She said at the end that her p*ssy was burning, I had to drop her home. She says youre going to miss me, I said no, youre going to miss me - im not letting her control any frame. I said if youre about south again let me know, she said shed prob have a bf by then, I said ill prob have a gf, she said youll be a bad bf then, she said bye, I said cya, she said no you wont, closed the door. Bit of a **** goodbye.

Just some backgrounf on this chick, shes a psycho, her dad has passed away, she said she wants no emotions, she wants to be a narcissist, gang memebrs are her heroes, she reads about them, reads about how to join the mafia, about torture, about the illuminati, shes quite, I would always have to lead conversations and found it difficult.

Anyway I f*cked her and it was great. I guess theres no point texting her now unless she reaches out to me that shes back?

 

[marmel75]

Date 3? Sounds like you didn't escalate properly and she didn't see you as a sexual being. This is why I always go for the kiss on the first date. You will be able to gauge interest and determine how she looks at you (friend or otherwise). I would be interested to see how others would handle this...

a couple things...
-when she gave you the friends comment... maybe should have responded with "we are?"
-Also, hold off on compliments longer, unless part of your initial set... give yourself away by qualifying her, kino, and escalation, not by compliments. Women have to earn compliments!

Pretty much ^^^ This

 

[Young OG]

I banged her.

Plan worked perfectly, took her to a carpark got her hot and bothered and said too many people around lets go to a hotel.

Got to the hotel and she would not get off me for 3 hours. Bit dissapointed at my performance as I prob banged her 20 mins out of the 3 hours, rest was fingering and going down on her. Her p*ssy was so tight I found it difficult to get it in, and I couldnt stay hard for a full 3 hours. This B*tch was kinky and dirty, shed deep throat my fingers after fingering her and suck my d*ck after f*cking her, I made her *** between 5-10 times, I asked how many times do you want to ***, she said as many as you make me. Head was phenomenal, body was very good, shed be on top of me and I wanted to f*ck her so bad. She would not let me have a breather for some water, I wanted to rest and try again b*tch was unstoppable.

She said at the end that her p*ssy was burning, I had to drop her home. She says youre going to miss me, I said no, youre going to miss me - im not letting her control any frame. I said if youre about south again let me know, she said shed prob have a bf by then, I said ill prob have a gf, she said youll be a bad bf then, she said bye, I said cya, she said no you wont, closed the door. Bit of a **** goodbye.

Just some backgrounf on this chick, shes a psycho, her dad has passed away, she said she wants no emotions, she wants to be a narcissist, gang memebrs are her heroes, she reads about them, reads about how to join the mafia, about torture, about the illuminati, shes quite, I would always have to lead conversations and found it difficult.

Anyway I f*cked her and it was great. I guess theres no point texting her now unless she reaches out to me that shes back?

Hell yeah! Great work. I'm glad to here this.

Since she's leaving, I would just forget her and go after more girls while you have some momentum going.