Why do you want a traditional lifestyle?

[Urbanyst]

Seems like the decline of the traditional family unit and traditional gender roles causes a lot of frustration for guys who want to live more like their parents or grandparents did.

But why exactly to you guys want to get married, buy a house and live a boring mediocre life with kids and a dog? Is this a lifestyle you just naturally crave or did you just see it on TV or see your parents do it and decide you should copy them?

I really enjoy the bachelor lifestyle in the city and I can't see myself ever moving into a house, doing yard work and fixing the roof. Its just not for me. I'm happy to be in a condo or apartment in a downtown city well into old age.

In some ways, city life is more simple because you have less obligations. No grass to cut, no snow to shovel, no car to maintain, no mortgage to pay, etc. When I leave work each day the city is my playground. I can try some new food, see some local live music, pick up some hot girls, meet up with bros, check out the newest bar, visit some tourist stuff or I can relax at home in my rat hole and watch TV or post on SoSuave.

I don't really see the appeal of the traditional lifestyle these days. What do you need it for?

 

[AlphaNate]

Nothing about money? @Urbanyst's account's been hacked.

 

[Urbanyst]

Nothing about money? @Urbanyst's account's been hacked.

Haven't I said enough for now? I'll be talking more about money in the future. Don't worry.

 

[C00lAF]

What about the lambo,cocaine,bytches lifestyle? More appealing to me.

 

[C00lAF]

Nothing about money? @Urbanyst's account's been hacked.

I like you

 

[Tenacity]

Seems like the decline of the traditional family unit and traditional gender roles causes a lot of frustration for guys who want to live more like their parents or grandparents did.

But why exactly to you guys want to get married, buy a house and live a boring mediocre life with kids and a dog? Is this a lifestyle you just naturally crave or did you just see it on TV or see your parents do it and decide you should copy them?

I really enjoy the bachelor lifestyle in the city and I can't see myself ever moving into a house, doing yard work and fixing the roof. Its just not for me. I'm happy to be in a condo or apartment in a downtown city well into old age.

In some ways, city life is more simple because you have less obligations. No grass to cut, no snow to shovel, no car to maintain, no mortgage to pay, etc. When I leave work each day the city is my playground. I can try some new food, see some local live music, pick up some hot girls, meet up with bros, check out the newest bar, visit some tourist stuff or I can relax at home in my rat hole and watch TV or post on SoSuave.

I don't really see the appeal of the traditional lifestyle these days. What do you need it for?

Speaking for me personally.....I battle with this everyday.

- My head tells me using logic, to spin plates only and not worry about the traditional lifestyle.

- Then there's another part of me that won't let the idea of the traditional lifestyle "die".

Do you have these same battles or is everything within you pretty straight-forward in terms of opting out of the traditional lifestyle?

 

[wifehunter]

Houses are absurdly overpriced... it's a fipping/trading game.

 

[FwoGiZ]

Where I am from, a house is a pretty good investment... I have made well over a 100k in less than 8 years but other than that, I am totally against the traditional lifestyle as you call it. My neighbor fcking hate me. I think they consider me the gungshow of the neighborhood.
I fail to understand why people want all that stuff that seems so Disney to me... I haven't been convinced it by it like so many have or is it just what they really want? Something tell me if that's what they truthfully wanted, they wouldn't constantly try and push it down everyone's throat as the right thing to do, as what "real men do"

 

[wifehunter]

Where I am from, a house is a pretty good investment... I have made well over a 100k in less than 8 years but other than that, I am totally against the traditional lifestyle as you call it. My neighbor fcking hate me. I think they consider me the gungshow of the neighborhood.
I fail to understand why people want all that stuff that seems so Disney to me... I haven't been convinced it by it like so many have or is it just what they really want? Something tell me if that's what they truthfully wanted, they wouldn't constantly try and push it down everyone's throat as the right thing to do, as what "real men do"

I'd be happy with my own apartment in a low key area...like bat cave!

 

[FwoGiZ]

I am probably going to do that next actually. I am indeed a bit sick of all the responsibility that comes with a house but I would NEVER go back to living my 20s such as. Big ass house parties with titties everywhere in the pool, the living room, and then coming out of it with 150k$? I would recommend anyone that can do that to do so. Just make sure you are not drowning in the interests.
I want to travel a bit more next tho so a smaller condo would be perfect and I can still have parties, just with fewer people... the right ones

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Traditional life is glorified has been glorified by TV, movies radios for decades its been drilled in to our subconscious psyche. When I ponder out this traditional lifestyle I get a feeling or boredom and sadness, its so mediocre and soul crushing. You're a walking miracle and all you can see is yourself being mediocre? Nah not for me

 

[Trump]

I really enjoy the bachelor lifestyle in the city and I can't see myself ever moving into a house, doing yard work and fixing the roof. Its just not for me. I'm happy to be in a condo or apartment in a downtown city well into old age.

In some ways, city life is more simple because you have less obligations. No grass to cut, no snow to shovel, no car to maintain, no mortgage to pay, etc. When I leave work each day the city is my playground. I can try some new food, see some local live music, pick up some hot girls, meet up with bros, check out the newest bar, visit some tourist stuff or I can relax at home in my rat hole and watch TV or post on SoSuave.

I don't really see the appeal of the traditional lifestyle these days. What do you need it for?

Some countries, even if are an educated medical Doctor, won't even let you in if you don't have a wife/family.

Bro I don't mean to antagonize you, but in opinion when people complain about a certain lifestyle they are NOT living, it means they WANT that lifestyle. I think we all want a 1950s housewife, but we are too afraid to admit it for being less alpha. The problem is don't times don't exist anymore in Western culture, and we often try to fight it, convince ourselves otherwise, put down the lifestyle, insult people who live it. It's all said and good, but it won't change anything.

 

[Tenacity]

Some countries, even if are an educated medical Doctor, won't even let you in if you don't have a wife/family.

Bro I don't mean to antagonize you, but in opinion when people complain about a certain lifestyle they are NOT living, it means they WANT that lifestyle. I think we all want a 1950s housewife, but we are too afraid to admit it for being less alpha. The problem is don't times don't exist anymore in Western culture, and we often try to fight it, convince ourselves otherwise, put down the lifestyle, insult people who live it. It's all said and good, but it won't change anything.

Same problem I'm having.

I want it but I don't want it........but then again I want it.....but come to think about again I don't want it, even though I still want it.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Some countries, even if are an educated medical Doctor, won't even let you in if you don't have a wife/family.

Bro I don't mean to antagonize you, but in opinion when people complain about a certain lifestyle they are NOT living, it means they WANT that lifestyle. I think we all want a 1950s housewife, but we are too afraid to admit it for being less alpha. The problem is don't times don't exist anymore in Western culture, and we often try to fight it, convince ourselves otherwise, put down the lifestyle, insult people who live it. It's all said and good, but it won't change anything.

Negative.....nice pop psychology though

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Because that lifestyle is EASIER. It requires less energy overall with that lifestyle than it does the lifestyle you currently are following. As a law of nature, all living organisms strive to conserve energy.

Would you rather make your own dinner when you come home from work, have to shell out big bucks for some good food at a fancy diner or order unhealthy takeout all the time? Or would you rather have the food sitting on the table right when you get home?

Would rather have to wash and clean up after every single little thing, after all the dust or crumbs that you may have missed, have to fold up your laundry all nice and neat all the time, or even do your own laundry? Or would you rather have it all done for you when you get home?

Would rather have to dress up, meet up at random places with some chick you don't even know, have to always order her drinks so that she can lose her good judgement so that she might possibly sleep with you, have to pay for her all the time, all for her to possibly just use you, and waste your time? Hey maybe you do get laid but by the time you get home from the bar or club it's 9 or 10 at night and you got work in the morning so you are tired as hell having spent up all the time, energy, and cash on some hoe from the club last night. Or would you rather just come home, fvck your woman, and watch a movie with her or do some other things till you get tired?

Would you rather have sex the same way over and over again with some random girls you likely will never see again, maybe turn them into a plate and have sex multiple times with a little bit of variation in how you had sex last time? Or would you rather have sex with a woman where you two know each other's kinks and fetishes where you are doing some WILD **** that you can't ever talk about even to your bros?

Would you rather have to deal with the possibility of a random chick giving you and STD? Maybe you wrap it up but you know damn well you aren't feeling ****, and neither is she. Or know that you are clean with your significant other?

Would you rather go on vacation all by yourself once all your bros get married? Or be able to go with someone who can enjoy it?

Would you rather go out solo some nights to places generally meant for two or more people after your bros get married or drift apart? Or do it all by yourself and give off a first impression of being a creep or a weirdo?

Would you rather be able to (metaphorically) close your eyes for a few minutes knowing that someone has your back regardless of what anyone else can offer her? Or have to always be alert and ready for anything? I can keep going with these if you'd like, but you get the picture I'm painting here.

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Now I know what you are all thinking? "Double, your an idiot if you think that's how marriages are really like". No guys, I'm actually not an idiot. I know these things RARELY ever happen AT ALL. But do you think other men do? The vast majority of men in the West don't know that women will not do ANY of these things anymore. But they think they do, and that is why they still want to get married. If women were still traditional in our fvcked up society, would you rather continue living the lifestyle you currently are living, or would you rather get married? Most men would want marriage. If the vast majority of men realized how women don't do sh!t nowadays, do you actually believe they would WANT to get married?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to get married. But there IS something wrong with the women of our current society.

 

[Trainwreck]

1). Because most people don't like to take risks and would rather drive the slow lane the rest of their lives. 2) Our parents are jealous af and don't want to see us have the balls and do **** they were too scared to do, so they try to influence us to make their same mistakes. 3). There's money to be made off people buying houses lol.

 

[Urbanyst]

1). Because most people don't like to take risks and would rather drive the slow lane the rest of their lives. 2) Our parents are jealous af and don't want to see us have the balls and do **** they were too scared to do, so they try to influence us to make their same mistakes. 3). There's money to be made off people buying houses lol.

I agree.

Whenever you choose a different path than most people, you often get a negative reaction. The more ambitious your goals the less encouragement you often get. Most people are mediocre and get validation from other mediocre people. When you have the nerve to want something different or better, people's first reaction is often "This guys must think he is better than me! How dare he think my lifestyle and ambitions are not up to his standards!" .

Traditional life is glorified has been glorified by TV, movies radios for decades its been drilled in to our subconscious psyche. When I ponder out this traditional lifestyle I get a feeling or boredom and sadness, its so mediocre and soul crushing. You're a walking miracle and all you can see is yourself being mediocre? Nah not for me

Totally agree.

If women were still traditional in our fvcked up society, would you rather continue living the lifestyle you currently are living, or would you rather get married? Most men would want marriage. If the vast majority of men realized how women don't do sh!t nowadays, do you actually believe they would WANT to get married?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to get married. But there IS something wrong with the women of our current society.

Sure.. but is there really something wrong or are we just not adapting well to change?

You can say that most people would want to ride horses everywhere if they didn't invent cars. There is nothing wrong with wanting to ride a horse everywhere you go. The problem is those damn cars that society glorifies so much. It makes people not want horses anymore!

 

[Tenacity]

Because that lifestyle is EASIER. It requires less energy overall with that lifestyle than it does the lifestyle you currently are following. As a law of nature, all living organisms strive to conserve energy.

Would you rather make your own dinner when you come home from work, have to shell out big bucks for some good food at a fancy diner or order unhealthy takeout all the time? Or would you rather have the food sitting on the table right when you get home?

Would rather have to wash and clean up after every single little thing, after all the dust or crumbs that you may have missed, have to fold up your laundry all nice and neat all the time, or even do your own laundry? Or would you rather have it all done for you when you get home?

Would rather have to dress up, meet up at random places with some chick you don't even know, have to always order her drinks so that she can lose her good judgement so that she might possibly sleep with you, have to pay for her all the time, all for her to possibly just use you, and waste your time? Hey maybe you do get laid but by the time you get home from the bar or club it's 9 or 10 at night and you got work in the morning so you are tired as hell having spent up all the time, energy, and cash on some hoe from the club last night. Or would you rather just come home, fvck your woman, and watch a movie with her or do some other things till you get tired?

Would you rather have sex the same way over and over again with some random girls you likely will never see again, maybe turn them into a plate and have sex multiple times with a little bit of variation in how you had sex last time? Or would you rather have sex with a woman where you two know each other's kinks and fetishes where you are doing some WILD **** that you can't ever talk about even to your bros?

Would you rather have to deal with the possibility of a random chick giving you and STD? Maybe you wrap it up but you know damn well you aren't feeling ****, and neither is she. Or know that you are clean with your significant other?

Would you rather go on vacation all by yourself once all your bros get married? Or be able to go with someone who can enjoy it?

Would you rather go out solo some nights to places generally meant for two or more people after your bros get married or drift apart? Or do it all by yourself and give off a first impression of being a creep or a weirdo?

Would you rather be able to (metaphorically) close your eyes for a few minutes knowing that someone has your back regardless of what anyone else can offer her? Or have to always be alert and ready for anything? I can keep going with these if you'd like, but you get the picture I'm painting here.

__________________________________________

Now I know what you are all thinking? "Double, your an idiot if you think that's how marriages are really like". No guys, I'm actually not an idiot. I know these things RARELY ever happen AT ALL. But do you think other men do? The vast majority of men in the West don't know that women will not do ANY of these things anymore. But they think they do, and that is why they still want to get married. If women were still traditional in our fvcked up society, would you rather continue living the lifestyle you currently are living, or would you rather get married? Most men would want marriage. If the vast majority of men realized how women don't do sh!t nowadays, do you actually believe they would WANT to get married?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to get married. But there IS something wrong with the women of our current society.

Dude you are so WISE for your age. I mean damn, I wish I had all of this understanding of the world at 17 - 18. You have potential to do BIG THINGS.

 

[Tenacity]

I agree.

Whenever you choose a different path than most people, you often get a negative reaction. The more ambitious your goals the less encouragement you often get. Most people are mediocre and get validation from other mediocre people. When you have the nerve to want something different or better, people's first reaction is often "This guys must think he is better than me! How dare he think my lifestyle and ambitions are not up to his standards!" .



Totally agree.



Sure.. but is there really something wrong or are we just not adapting well to change?

You can say that most people would want to ride horses everywhere if they didn't invent cars. There is nothing wrong with wanting to ride a horse everywhere you go. The problem is those damn cars that society glorifies so much. It makes people not want horses anymore!

Bro here's my question to you (which can help me out on my side).

Have you fully gone to the other side? That is, FULLY gone Red Pill and operating under said understanding, without any DESIRE to do any traditional relationship, create kids, etc.?

If so, can you explain in full how did you do it? Because this takes us to a deeper conversation on this board, which I don't think the Manosphere does a good job of addressing. The Manosphere will tell you the nature of women, show you how the market of women is horrible, and show you how to date/fvck these bytches.

What the Manosphere doesn't tell you is what do you do.....if you want MORE than just sex and companionship from this horrible market of women? What do you do, if you desire MORE, which includes a deep, serious, relationship? How do you get this within this market?? And if you can't get it, then HOW do you eliminate the desire to have it??

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Sure.. but is there really something wrong or are we just not adapting well to change?

You can say that most people would want to ride horses everywhere if they didn't invent cars. There is nothing wrong with wanting to ride a horse everywhere you go. The problem is those damn cars that society glorifies so much. It makes people not want horses anymore!

If you are on this website, you are adapting. But the fact that people all over the place are complaining, even after realizing their mistakes and fixing them, they will notice something 'off' about women.

I understand your horse analogy, but it isn't accurate to describe this situation. What is the horse's purpose? To do what you want it to do; to SERVE you. That's the reason for its existence. Now what about women? History will tell you that a woman's purpose is to serve men as well. For thousands of years, women have served men. Now tell me, why is it that in the last 60 years it has changed so much to the point where most western women have a mental illness? For thousands of years, women have been a certain way, and haven't swayed from that path. For thousands of years women were only fvcking one single man because they could only love one man (why else are virgins so clingy?). Yet SUDDENLY it's all changed. It's because women no longer have a purpose anymore and are not in tune with their feminine nature. They are no longer NATURAL anymore. This happened because of society, not because of a shift or change in people due to evolution. It isn't something that we can just 'adapt' to immediately because it is NOT NATURAL. There is no real 'adapting'. You can embrace you inner masculinity and feral instincts to reignite her natural feminine core. But some women are so broken and so lost that they have a dysfunctional state of being.