Trump's Travel Ban

[Bible_Belt]

Moan all you want, they are illegal invaders, they broke the law the moment they set foot here. Deport them.

Yes! I remember being six years old and advising my parents of their illegal activities. They should have listened, but I couldn't make them. That was totally my fault. Every toddler-aged kid who was brought here should have been able to talk their parents out of the idea. We need to punish those little bastards.

Aren't you from the trailer park, too, just like me? You don't have the best parents, either. Lucky for us that they didn't drag us across a border when we were little, or we would be ones facing deportation.

 

[speed dawg]

But muh feelz!!!
But muh open borderz!!!

hahahaha 'muh anything' never gets old...

 

[Bible_Belt]

"Is your b!tch trying to snitch to the law about those beatings? No problem! Call ICE today and we'll take care of her before she gets you in trouble."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...omestic-abuse-protection-at-texas-courthouse/
‘This is really unprecedented’: ICE detains woman seeking domestic abuse protection at Tex. courthouse

 

[Trunks]

"Is your b!tch trying to snitch to the law about those beatings? No problem! Call ICE today and we'll take care of her before she gets you in trouble."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...omestic-abuse-protection-at-texas-courthouse/
‘This is really unprecedented’: ICE detains woman seeking domestic abuse protection at Tex. courthouse

Look at the bright side: if she is deported, ICE will be removing her from the abusive boyfriend. Quite humane, really.

 

[backseatjuan]

The woman had a prior criminal record and had been previously deported, but, according to Bernal, had no current outstanding state warrants.

Ok, with criminal record and deportation you have no future as an immigrant in United States. During hearing at U.S. Embassy in country of origin they will check you against database of criminals in United States, if you was convicted you will not get a visa. I'm assuming women didn't have a visa and entered United States illegally. Thus Immigration & Customs absolutely have the right to detain and deport. In fact it is their job.

Donald Trump has made an agency do its work!

As far as abuse goes, person who committed a crime should be held accountable. In Russia if I kicked ass of an illegal alien, I would get arrested and prosecuted, illegal would get deported and banned reentry for 5 years. He might as well get fined for crossing border illegally or get prison time. If border entry was legal, but there was immigration related violation, like over stayed visa, that would get a deportation.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Domestic violence does not exonerate her being illegal.

None of them are going to come forward to report it now, though. So the new policy is that being illegal exonerates domestic violence.

It's the same thing that police all over the country have been saying. When everyone feels threatened with arrest - maybe just of their friends and family and not themselves - they stop cooperating. They stop coming forward with tips and with witness testimony. That's how crimes get solved, and also when police are not wasting their limited state and local resources doing Federal work - that helps a lot, too.

 

[Trunks]

Is it that hard to get fake papers and socials? If you've been living here illegally, just do that. Live a quiet law abiding life and wait for an amnesty and learn English. The government can easily be beaten at its own game - if you're smart.

There hasn't been an amnesty in decades, though.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Welcome to Canada. Would you like some healthcare?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...r-patrol-seek-asylum-canada-article-1.2976074
Nine people, including four children, barely escape U.S. border patrol to seek asylum in Canada
Nine asylum-seekers, including four children, barely made it across the Canadian border on Friday as a U.S. border patrol officer tried to stop them and a Reuters photographer captured the scene.

As a U.S. Customs and Border Patrol officer seized their passports and questioned a man in the front passenger seat of a taxi that had pulled up to the border in Champlain, New York, four adults and four young children fled the cab and ran to Royal Canadian Mounted Police on the other side.

One by one they scrambled across the snowy gully separating the two countries. RCMP officers watching from the other side helped them up, lifting the younger children and asking a woman, who leaned on her fellow passenger as she walked, if she needed medical care.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Did President Obama Deport More People Than Any Other President?

Snopes says yes.

As of 2015, more than 2.5 million undocumented people had been deported by immigration authorities since President Obama took office in 2009, a total which is indeed record-setting. During the two terms of his predecessor, President George W. Bush, just over 2 million people were deported.

 

[Bible_Belt]

ICE just nabbed a local Mexican restaurant manager. That county is 99% white; everyone voted for Trump. Now they are thinking, "wait, not our guy! Deport the other ones. This isn't what we wanted."

http://thesouthern.com/news/local/f...cle_d25f994c-4fb5-572c-9710-48e50ffb24c2.html
Friends, family rally behind West Frankfort restaurant manager detained by ICE

 

[Bible_Belt]

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...ving-Alexandria-Church-Shelter-413889013.html
ICE Agents Arrest Men Leaving Fairfax County Church Shelter

 

[Bible_Belt]

The ruling on the case below could be relevant to the travel ban, because the issue is whether or not the protections of the Constitution may extend beyond the US border and apply to non-citizens.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/21/51562...mexican-nationals-may-sue-for-border-shooting
Supreme Court To Decide If Mexican Nationals May Sue For Border Shooting

 

[nikkisixx]

trumps wife is all im checking out player.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

DHS Issues Sweeping New Rules On Deportation Of Illegal Immigrants

The Department of Homeland Security released on Tuesday documents translating President Trump’s executive orders on immigration and border security into policy, providing details on how it will prosecute undocumented immigrants and criminal immigrants, repealing nearly all of the Obama administration's guidances, and bringing a major shift in the way the agency enforces the nation’s immigration laws.

As the WSJ notes, "almost everybody living in the U.S. illegally is now subject to deportation, and more undocumented arrivals at the southern border would be jailed or sent back to Mexico to await a hearing rather than released into the U.S." according to the new guidance.

“The Department no longer will exempt classes or categories of removable aliens from potential enforcement,” the enforcement memo says. “Department personnel have full authority to arrest or apprehend an alien whom an immigration officer has probable cause to believe is in violation of the immigration laws.”

 

[Bible_Belt]

And I thought the libs were the anti-war party???

I'm against Border Patrol using the Mexican kids as target practice, which is what the case is about.

Border Patrol is one of the lowest rungs of law enforcement jobs. It's one step up from shopping mall security guard. People take that job only because they couldn't get a better one. If there are any cops indiscriminately committing murder, it's going to be Border Patrol.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Bible, could I just ask you what you would do about illegal immigration? I do apologize if you've clarified it already and I missed the post, but we have 330 million people in our country already. Up to 10% of them are illegal aliens from Latin America, and that's before you count the Muslims in Dearborn Michigan trying to implement local Sharia laws, Clinton's former proposed 500% increase in Syrian refugees, etc.

Your white, Judeo-Christian traditions are being weeded out. Whites have gone from 90% of the population to 63% in 40 years. Now, IF the left's idea of tolerance and diversity was just multiple cultures living and working together in harmony, it would be no issue at all. But many of these people are openly hostile to you. What that means is you might be a persecuted minority in your own country in another 40 years.

Why are Europeans wanting to preserve their heritage the only ones who face a Goebbels-like propaganda backlash for it? We're told about "imperialism" and "colonialism" and slavery. Let's clarify something here, there is no country on earth who has colonized, enslaved, and raped than the Republic of Turkey. To this day, they are exponentially more nationalist than Americans. We've had 60 years of reparations for our history, they deny their history (the Armenian Genocide) happened and put people in prison who acknowledge it. And not one word from leftists on it. Why? Because this facade of multiculturalism is about sabotaging white people. Same reason why the entire world is obsessed with the Israeli occupation of Gaza, but not a word on the Turkish occupation of Greece/Cyprus. It's all because 50% of Jews are Europeans..

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I'm against Border Patrol using the Mexican kids as target practice, which is what the case is about.

Then you'll be glad that Trump put Homeland Security in charge of getting rid of illegals, and not the border patrol.

As an aside, once a LOOOONG time ago I went a job fair, and the most eager people who wanted to hire me was the border patrol. I got the impression from the guy I talked to that they pretty much hired all comers.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Bible, could I just ask you what you would do about illegal immigration?

First of all, I don't understand why anyone cares what color, or what religion the world is going to be after you're dead. If you believe in your religion, whatever it is, then that fate is out of mankind's control. And if you're Atheist, then when you're dead, you're dead; game over.

About immigration, common sense policy would be a dollars and cents approach. Trump is about to trick America into blowing countless billions that will all go to his cronies in the prison state business. No one can see it happening, because they are so blinded by their hatred of them damn far-ners. This is exactly what Dubya and Rove did with the Iraq war - blind 'em with fear, and siphon off government resources into their buddies in the military-industrial complex business. I was against that bullsh!t when it was happening, and 90% of America was in favor of it. What's happening right now with Trump is the exact same sh!t.

Illegal immigration is an economic issue. Not that you'll hear this little non-alternative fact at a Trump rally, but we hardly get any Mexicans sneaking into the US right now, because their economy has improved. The illegal border-crossers being arrested right now are mostly from Guatemala and Honduras originally. They are illegal in Mexico, and the Mexicans don't want them there, either. So let's all hate Mexicans, right? That is the obvious solution here, for minds that are not exactly into complex thought.

The real reason we have let all the illegals stay this long is that they work and pay taxes. They pay a lot more in taxes than they take in social services, another non-alternative fact. They especially get screwed on Social Security, because they have to pay into it without ever being able to draw benefits.

Trump's climate of fear is going to wreck local communities. He's going to give ICE free reign to raid schools, churches and hospitals. Local police are already saying this is going to be a disaster. Community-based policing is the new paradigm of law enforcement, and Trump is going to set back years of progress.

We're embarking on a new Dark Age for this country. Of course Trump is killing the National Endowment for the Arts immediately, despite his own security cost being higher than their funding, because that's what happens in a dark age. It's not any different than the Taliban smashing up museum artifacts. We don't want art to distract anyone from their state-induced hatred and fear.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

They pay a lot more in taxes than they take in social services, another non-alternative fact.

I would very much like to see how you came to this conclusion. If you have actual statistics (not links to journalist mentioned these statistics) but the statistics themselves.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Taliban smashing up museum artifacts. We don't want art to distract anyone from their state-induced hatred and fear.

I would argue that the "artifacts" being smashed by the Taliban and the "art" created through government funding are in two completely different categories.