Wife Leaves Husband Of 22 Years Cause He Was "Thinking Of Voting Trump"

[SmooveMooves]

There is no outrage, my frame is very strong. You need to place a very strong frame from the beginning. You've been here longer than me but yet haven't learned anything. When I speak to these women about politics it's very articulate and mostly intellectual from my side, they see me as an intelligent man who knows what he's talking about. My appearance, the way I suit myself, the way I present myself, I wouldn't have to deal with outrage because women know when they see a man. They don't throw fits of outrage at a man because of disagreements and I've met terrible feminists in my life.

And these women disagreed with my vote, there was shock, but when I further explained my reasoning they understood with respect.

I was just getting ready to say something similar. I'm black and I tell people im a conservative who supports Trump. Initially they spazz out until I explain my logic which usually ends in agreement to disagree but them understanding my standpoint. Liberal media indoctrination is crazy. Nevertheless, I think shít like this depends on frame.

Intrested women tend to adopt your frame anyway. I found the women the I talked to slowly adopted my sense of humor and view on life. A die hard Christian girl's family even pressured her to break up with me after they found her presenting atheist viewpoints and challenging her religon.

Idk experiences differ

 

[Tenacity]

And this is coming from a non confident codependent black man who has trouble/tired of hooking up with damaged goods.

What?

There is no outrage, my frame is very strong. You need to place a very strong frame from the beginning.

More internet/Manosphere cartoon shyt. Black conservatives are routinely kicked out of social functions, talked about, mocked, roasted, called Uncle Tom, called Coons, called Sambos, and all types of other shyt.

But according to you, if they "maintain the frame" it all goes away? So ALL of these other black conservatives like Larry Elder, Herman Cain, Dr. Ben Carson, etc., etc.,.....they just haven't been "maintaining the frame"?

You've been here longer than me but yet haven't learned anything.

I accept certain things and reject stupid things. The cartoon character bullshyt about "maintaining a frame" is one of the things I reject because for one.........if a girl isn't into you.....she won't ALLOW you to maintain a frame.

You guys THINK women are operating within your "frame" but the reality is that you are just dealing with a girl with a high enough level of interest. If her interest level is high, she will go along with whatever bullshyt you throw at her most of the time. But the moment that interest level drops for (insert whatever random reason here) you are pretty much done.

DESPITE this, being a black republican will PISS OFF black women, no matter her level of interest.

And lets be honest, black women treat white men differently than a black man. So there's that.

You damn right they do. A white man saying he voted for Trump means nothing to black women, especially black women who might be dating YOU as (let's just be honest) MOST of those black women are swirling anyway......meaning that they have deliberately decided they will not pursue black men and ONLY date white men. It's called Swirling, made famous by this bytch Christelyn Karazin who says that the white man is GOD, but the black man is the DEVIL.

I'm black and I tell people im a conservative who supports Trump. Initially they spazz out until I explain my logic which usually ends in agreement to disagree but them understanding my standpoint. Liberal media indoctrination is crazy. Nevertheless, I think shít like this depends on frame.

So they SPAZZ out when they hear you voted for Trump and you have identified the Liberal Media Indoctrination. YET, you still talk about some cartoon character "frame"? If your cartoon character "frame" was this major "influence", why do they spazz out? Why doesn't it overtake their Liberal Media Indoctrination?

I love how you guys are deliberately playing DUMB like Black Republicans/Conservatives aren't THE MOST HATED group in Black America. Yes, we are more hated by black people than the KKK.

 

[BeExcellent]

Political discussion has everything to do with how steadfast you are in what you believe as well as your ability to articulate WHY you hold these beliefs.

I was a Trump girl this time last year. Remained so through voting for him in the election.

I date a Hollywood liberal. At first he ridiculed my stance but I said now hold on...not so fast...think about xy and z...we ended up having some in depth conversations about why I supported Trump (and all he could do was run down Trump...it wasn't as though Hillary had any virtue he could get behind). He would still send me funny memes making fun of Trump but he understood I was steadfast in my decision.

It was fun to text him a President Trump headline & say "How ya like me now?"

The problem with hardcore leftist liberals isn't really the liberal stance. It's the fact that liberalism is a cult religion to these people. You cannot reason with religious cult people. It is impossible.

This article is akin to the wife thinking she married a devout Catholic only to wake up 22 years later to the fact that he is in fact an atheist. She can't tolerate dissention from her cult religion of liberalism.

There is no reasoning with the irrational.

 

[Starting]

More internet/Manosphere cartoon shyt. Black conservatives are routinely kicked out of social functions, talked about, mocked, roasted, called Uncle Tom, called Coons, called Sambos, and all types of other shyt.

But according to you, if they "maintain the frame" it all goes away? So ALL of these other black conservatives like Larry Elder, Herman Cain, Dr. Ben Carson, etc., etc.,.....they just haven't been "maintaining the frame"?



I accept certain things and reject stupid things. The cartoon character bullshyt about "maintaining a frame" is one of the things I reject because for one.........if a girl isn't into you.....she won't ALLOW you to maintain a frame.

You guys THINK women are operating within your "frame" but the reality is that you are just dealing with a girl with a high enough level of interest. If her interest level is high, she will go along with whatever bullshyt you throw at her most of the time. But the moment that interest level drops for (insert whatever random reason here) you are pretty much done.

DESPITE this, being a black republican will PISS OFF black women, no matter her level of interest.

Smooth said it best, interested women tend to adopt your frame.

You ignore my advice, you ignore poonking advice and yet you still b**ch and complain that you're still at step 1 because you refuse to accept the truth. Frame is everything. There is no cartoon character bs about it. If a man walks in a room like he's a man you don't f**k with. You don't f**k with him. If the lion of the jungle marks his territory, you as a lion don't go to his territory. Now if the lion lets another lion walk all over his territory then it shows weakness, much like in frame.

When a man carries himself like an alpha dog, when he shows he's a self-respected man, when he knows how to be serious and lay down his boundaries. When he dresses and carries himself like a boss and on top of the SMV chain women will never disrespect or throw a fit on that man because he's the man you dont f**k with. He presents himself like a greater value. And that's how it should be. That's what makes a women interested in you. That's what makes her adopt your frame. That's what makes her stay in your frame. You only attract your SMV level and below. If you don't carry yourself like a man and you're a codependent, you'll get damaged women who are not quality based. (Which I know you have problems with from your other posts.) And let it be clear when a women's interest level goes down its mainly because of the bad qualities you presented yourself. Notice I said qualities, not quality. One bad quality doesn't eliminate her interest level entirely.

You're using the excuse that you're a black man that deals with so much hardship because you voted for Trump, yet there is so many black men out here with high SMV that don't deal with a womens outrage (black or white) conservative or liberal.

You can't accomplish this because you refuse to accept the reality of the situation.

 

[Tenacity]

Smooth said it best, interested women tend to adopt your frame.

You ignore my advice, you ignore poonking advice and yet you still b**ch and complain that you're still at step 1 because you refuse to accept the truth. Frame is everything. There is no cartoon character bs about it. If a man walks in a room like he's a man you don't f**k with. You don't f**k with him. If the lion of the jungle marks his territory, you as a lion don't go to his territory. Now if the lion lets another lion walk all over his territory then it shows weakness, much like in frame.

When a man carries himself like an alpha dog, when he shows he's a self-respected man, when he knows how to be serious and lay down his boundaries. When he dresses and carries himself like a boss and on top of the SMV chain women will never disrespect or throw a fit on that man because he's the man you dont f**k with. He presents himself like a greater value. And that's how it should be. That's what makes a women interested in you. That's what makes her adopt your frame. That's what makes her stay in your frame. You only attract your SMV level and below. If you don't carry yourself like a man and you're a codependent, you'll get damaged women who are not quality based. (Which I know you have problems with from your other posts.) And let it be clear when a women's interest level goes down its mainly because of the bad qualities you presented yourself. Notice I said qualities, not quality. One bad quality doesn't eliminate her interest level entirely.

You're using the excuse that you're a black man that deals with so much hardship because you voted for Trump, yet there is so many black men out here with high SMV that don't deal with a womens outrage (black or white) conservative........

LIKE WHO??

 

[9Volt]

Gotta love this cult like "frame" bs from kjs. If these dudes weren't sitting online all day and night they wouldn't be throwing out manosphere kool aid buzz words but actually improving themselves and interacting with the rest of humanity offline.

"Frame" is the new "state". Get in the "frame" bros! dweebs

 

[EyeBRollin]

Now I'm BLACK and voted for Trump, I can't say this shyt around any black people because if I do, I will probably be murdered (not exaggerating when I say that) OR at least every single chick I'm talking to (black and white) will IMMEDIATELY tell me to lose their number.

Now of course LEGEND will chime in here about how this is somehow my fault, but if THIS doesn't tell you that there's a marketplace SHIFT to Center Left politics in our social/culture, then I don't know what else to tell you.

The average, HOT/DECENT looking, 18 - 40 year old chick, will indeed tell you to lose her number if you admit you voted for Trump. Think I'm lying? Try it.......

Hey buddy, you already know my views about being a black man voting for Trump, but that's besides the point. Here's an idea... keep that **** to yourself. The only time politics helps you get laid is if she agrees with your views. If you are unsure what her views are, just keep your mouth shut until you either **** her or know what hers are.

 

[Tenacity]

Hey buddy, you already know my views about being a black man voting for Trump, but that's besides the point. Here's an idea... keep that **** to yourself. The only time politics helps you get laid is if she agrees with your views. If you are unsure what her views are, just keep your mouth shut until you either **** her or know what hers are.

That's pretty much what I do lol. I don't even bring up politics, voting Republican, or anything like that anymore. Most black chicks just assume I vote Democrat anyway, they will ALWAYS rant to me about how "that orange fvcker Trump" is this and that lol.

 

[RangerMIke]

If a woman loves you she will wear any hat you give her. She does care about what her friends think and most women I know would never admit to voting for Trump... but in the US most white women did, they just aren't going to tell their friends. She dumps a guy for political beliefs that was just an excuse. With women everything is about feeling. If you get into logical debates with chicks you are just boring the sh!t out of her.

We had no real choice in the USA this election... we as a nation just decided to go bat sh!t crazy because we are sick of getting lied to by politicians.

 

[RangerMIke]

Don't get into philosophical debates with chicks... they hate that sh!t. Just seduce and fvck them... save the intellectual stimulating conversations with youe male friends.

 

[Tenacity]

Don't get into philosophical debates with chicks... they hate that sh!t. Just seduce and fvck them... save the intellectual stimulating conversations with youe male friends.

Which is even more reason to not take chicks seriously. I mean if I personally CAN'T have an intelligent conversation with a chick, I am turned off.

Also understand telling a white woman you voted for Trump while being white.....Is completely different than being black and telling a black woman this.

 

[Tenacity]

If a woman loves you she will wear any hat you give her.

Where do you guys get this from? I'm serious lol. If this stuff were true, then 80% of the problems you experience with women in Relationships would not exist.

She would just STFU, submit to the Cartoon Network "frame", and be a good little American feminist/gynocentric angel.

I don't know any black woman who acts like this, even fvcking Michelle Obama. If you THINK she doesn't "run" that show think again. Everytime you enter a Relationship it's an immediate power struggle with the chick seeking to control.

She wants you to dominate the world, but she wants to dominate you. If she can't control you in some aspect, she won't be in a relationship with you.

 

[SmooveMooves]

More internet/Manosphere cartoon shyt. Black conservatives are routinely kicked out of social functions, talked about, mocked, roasted, called Uncle Tom, called Coons, called Sambos, and all types of other shyt.

So they SPAZZ out when they hear you voted for Trump and you have identified the Liberal Media Indoctrination. YET, you still talk about some cartoon character "frame"? If your cartoon character "frame" was this major "influence", why do they spazz out? Why doesn't it overtake their Liberal Media.

I'm not sure what I said to make you draw the parallel between frame and a cartoon character. I did not describe anything hyperbolic or unrealistic. I was attesting your description of being excommunicated and shunned for being a black conservative. In my experience this doesn't happen. Yes, in the online sphere black conservatives are ridiculed but just as any other SJW once these people are presented with facts, they crumble.

The influence thing was a seperate tangent in which I was explaining that the women you are dating become more like you. In other words, if your dating a chick, over time, she begins to develop a similar world view to you.

You guys THINK women are operating within your "frame" but the reality is that you are just dealing with a girl with a high enough level of interest. If her interest level is high, she will go along with whatever bullshyt you throw at her most of the time. But the moment that interest level drops for (insert whatever random reason here) you are pretty much done.

I think it's obvious frame applies to interested women. And just as you described, if she's into you she'll go along with whatever you want. Having a strong frame and sense of self are among the many things that keeps a woman's ever so elusive interest. We are men and the natural leaders of the relationship. When dealing with a woman she is operating within our frame -- until she isn't. That's usually when we cut losses and move on.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Gotta love this cult like "frame" bs from kjs. If these dudes weren't sitting online all day and night they wouldn't be throwing out manosphere kool aid buzz words but actually improving themselves and interacting with the rest of humanity offline.

"Frame" is the new "state". Get in the "frame" bros! dweebs

I never understood these types of posts because for what you're saying to legitimate you wouldn't be here saying it. Why are you here replying instead of improving yourself and interacting with the rest of humanity offline? You're the only one capable of the tough task that is managing time between real life and an online forum?

Is it the word frame that bothers you? Does frame not exist? My experiences say otherwise which is all I was sharing.

 

[user43770]

Gotta love this cult like "frame" bs from kjs. If these dudes weren't sitting online all day and night they wouldn't be throwing out manosphere kool aid buzz words but actually improving themselves and interacting with the rest of humanity offline.

"Frame" is the new "state". Get in the "frame" bros! dweebs

There's nothing dweeby about having confidence in yourself and your beliefs.

"Irrational self-confidence will get you more pvssy than rational defeatism."

 

[9Volt]

There's nothing dweeby about having confidence in yourself and your beliefs.

"Irrational self-confidence will get you more pvssy than rational defeatism."

There's confidence and then there's kj delusions of grandeur.

There's also a huge difference in living in a fantasy world where any and every chick is going to like you just because you think so and actually living in reality but not worrying or deluding yourself that any and every chick will, while being indifferent to a chick or chicks liking you or not.

 

[9Volt]

I never understood these types of posts because for what you're saying to legitimate you wouldn't be here saying it. Why are you here replying instead of improving yourself and interacting with the rest of humanity offline? You're the only one capable of the tough task that is managing time between real life and an online forum?

Is it the word frame that bothers you? Does frame not exist? My experiences say otherwise which is all I was sharing.

there are those who need to maintain a "frame" or get in the "state" and others like myself who simply dont worry about being in the "frame" or getting in the "state" as if they arent in control of themselves and are socially and common sense clueless to begin with.

 

[Tenacity]

I'm not sure what I said to make you draw the parallel between frame and a cartoon character.

Because the Manosphere is FAMOUS for providing unrealistic descriptions of how events play out with women. If you walk like this, talk like this, and wear this color shirt.......your woman will be submissive, never talk back, never be a bytch, etc., etc.

It's stupid and cartoonish. Like I said, relationships with most women are a power struggle and if the chick can't control you (you operate in her frame) she won't be in a relationship with you the vast majority of the time.

But let you guys tell it, your cartoon character unrealistic descriptions are reality......smh

I was attesting your description of being excommunicated and shunned for being a black conservative. In my experience this doesn't happen. Yes, in the online sphere black conservatives are ridiculed but just as any other SJW once these people are presented with facts, they crumble.

Dude I don't know WHAT world you are living in. Seriously. Black conservatives/republicans are routinely shunned, mocked, roasted, cussed out, and called all types of names in the book NOT just on the damn internet but EVERYWHERE. This has been going on WAY before the damn internet.....at least since the 1970s!

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Political discussion has everything to do with how steadfast you are in what you believe as well as your ability to articulate WHY you hold these beliefs.

Tenacity, read this post and try to fully understand it. The 'frame' that people talk about on here is referencing who you are as a PERSON, not as a man. The rules of having frame aren't just for women, it's for EVERYONE. It isn't just a 'game' aspect used to attract women in intimate relationships, it's a social skill that charms all people in any social situation. You see Donald Trump? He isn't afraid to speak his mind and actually does what he says he wants to do. That shows the frame of a leader. Not a chick magnet or womanizer or a weak unnatractive wimp (all of these describe traits that deal solely with the man-woman dynamic). It is that of a LEADER (a man-society dynamic). I have said this before and I will say it again: this is the next step for you to improve. It is your social skills. This trait of Trump did not just attract only men or only women, it attracted everyone regardless of their sex because this is a PERSON aspect, not a man or woman aspect.

 

[Tenacity]

The 'frame' that people talk about on here is referencing who you are as a PERSON, not as a man. The rules of having frame aren't just for women, it's for EVERYONE. It isn't just a 'game' aspect used to attract women in intimate relationships, it's a social skill that charms all people in any social situation.

Kid, I know what FRAME is in both the context used in the Manosphere and the context used in other aspects of life. The problem with the way it's presented here on The Manosphere is that it's being promoted in completely unrealistic cartoon fashions.

- You can display a frame, doesn't mean people will follow it nor go along with it.

- You can also display a frame and that doesn't mean other people don't have THEIR frame, which means you would need to work in balance with their frame in order to exist in harmony. Not this cartoonish shyt about everybody submitting to you and kissing your a.ss

- I also HATE the word "frame", in this regards it's just cartoonish. Just have confidence in yourself and set boundaries/limits, as well as, have some level of standards.

You see Donald Trump?

Yeah I see him.

He isn't afraid to speak his mind and actually does what he says he wants to do. That shows the frame of a leader.

Sir, I'm not sure if you are aware of this or not, but Donald Trump is one of the most HATED men in America right now. Perfect example of just because you establish this cartoonish "frame", that doesn't mean people are going to go along with it. #NOTMYPRESIDENT is the mindset of 60% of the country right now. The man's approval rating is around 40%.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02...ting-tumbles-all-time-latest-gallup-poll.html

I have said this before and I will say it again: this is the next step for you to improve. It is your social skills.

Lol, kid do yourself a favor. You're 18 right? I want you to put MORE focus on getting your financial house in order, graduating college, moving out of your parent's house, and becoming an established MAN with a career. Okay?

Stop "analyzing Tenacity", leave that to LEGEND lol.