Trump's Travel Ban

[Trunks]

Legal according to US Code 1182 written in 1948

Yes, this was posted before. Thanks for showing me I was mistaken. I still think it was poor form to implement the ban on current green card and visa holders.

 

[Derek Flint]

Yes, this was posted before. Thanks for showing me I was mistaken. I still think it was poor form to implement the ban on current green card and visa holders.

I didn't read the entire thread, but the current vetting process is flawed and needs upgrading.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

I think you kids are just too suffocated with political correctness and liberalism, can't say that blacks commit the most crime, can't say that jews steal land and your money, but because of this terrorism thing it is fine to call muslim people trash. I blame Bush Jr. for starting this.

I refuse to participate in this discussion that a certain religion is bad.

Well, it (Islam) is bad, whether you participate or not.

And here we have another mind numbing example of a guy claiming it's okay to "call Muslim people trash", but that you can't speak ill of the Jews.

Meanwhile, anti-Semitic crimes are the most common among all hate crimes (this is a verifiable fact), but we have literally invented a new word with no context called "Islamophobia" to categorize the much more rare hate crimes against Muslims.

You live in an alternate reality.

 

[backseatjuan]

All those dictators were initially putted in by the CIA ....... Eventually the ''dictators'' ambitions started playing against ''other'' interests and that had to be taken down.

As far as Iraq and Libya goes, no, the CIA did not in-place dictators, and yes Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi were great leaders and did a lot to their own countries. They were both power points in the middle east and they were both backed by once great and powerful country USSR. However when USSR went down, for United States opened an opportunity to take down both, and destroy their power influence in the region. Result of this we are seeing now, refugees in Europe, terrorism, chaos in the middle east.

United States, either by mistake or on purpose, did not in-place a strong power to fill in that vacuum after these great leaders were gone. Terrorist groups filled in that vacuum.

 

[backseatjuan]

Meanwhile, anti-Semitic crimes are the most common among all hate crimes (this is a verifiable fact)

Your statement that anti-semitic crime is most common among hate crime is moronic. Any fvcking crime against jew is anti-semitic if it is committed by none-jew.

AND YES! You kids are too suffocated with liberalism and political correctness, can't say anything against jews, can't say anything against blacks. Both jews and blacks hide behind this hate crime thing. But muslims is a different beast, we have such thing as terrorism, jews don't like muslims because they want their land, so it is OK to treat muslims like trash, and it is OK to generalize muslims.

After all they are a security threat.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Well, it (Islam) is bad, whether you participate or not.

All the Islamic people I know are quiet, non-violent, friendly people. There is a farm community of them near me, also my ex-wife converted so she could marry her North African husband. What should we do? Arrest them and put them in fema camps? The correct Christian response to persecution is to join sides with the persecuted. When they come for the Muslims, the Christian thing to do is to say, 'Allah Akbar, motherfvcker, I'm one of them."

 

[bigneil]

90% of terrorism comes from Radical Islam - two words Obama REFUSED TO UTTER. Bring it on you turban heads. We have guns here.

Islam is NOT COMPATIBLE with Western Civilization - and some of you f*cking assh*les want ME to pay to relocate these burka-wearing women here? It's cheaper to KEEP THEM THERE. Here's an idea: how about NOT BOMBING Muslim countries to the point of creating refugees to begin with?

This is the welfare/warfare state in full force.

 

[Trunks]

 

[backseatjuan]

You folks though, some of you, those that generalize especially, are missing an important point.

Donald Trump's important change in immigration policy is raising minimum salary for work visas from 60k to 130k. Not some temp travel ban.

Presently for a company it is cheaper to bring an immigrant in and pay him 60k, rather than hire an American and pay him 120k. Immigration law is being misused like this. Raising this minimum is part of making America great again by preventing homeland job outsourcing.

 

[Trunks]

Donald Trump's important change in immigration policy is raising minimum salary for work visas from 60k to 130k. Not some temp travel ban.

Presently for a company it is cheaper to bring an immigrant in and pay him 60k, rather than hire an American and pay him 120k. Immigration law is being misused like this. Raising this minimum is part of making America great again by preventing homeland job outsourcing.

Agreed. It's a step in the right direction.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

You folks though, some of you, those that generalize especially, are missing an important point.

Donald Trump's important change in immigration policy is raising minimum salary for work visas from 60k to 130k. Not some temp travel ban.

Presently for a company it is cheaper to bring an immigrant in and pay him 60k, rather than hire an American and pay him 120k. Immigration law is being misused like this. Raising this minimum is part of making America great again by preventing homeland job outsourcing.

Generalizing like you do about Jews?

 

[BlueAlpha1]

All the Islamic people I know are quiet, non-violent, friendly people. There is a farm community of them near me, also my ex-wife converted so she could marry her North African husband. What should we do? Arrest them and put them in fema camps? The correct Christian response to persecution is to join sides with the persecuted. When they come for the Muslims, the Christian thing to do is to say, 'Allah Akbar, motherfvcker, I'm one of them."

I agree that Arabs as an ethnicity are warm, friendly, neighborly people. I've lived among them too.

Having studied Islam they are this way in spite of Islam, not because of it. Youll be fine as long as you don't bring up religion and ask what they think of Jews, atheists, gays, etc.

Quite obviously we shouldn't be talking about FEMA camps. But we should profile questionable mosques and encourage honest conversation about how Islam is the worst religion in the world. That's our best chance to reform it in our lifetime.

 

[backseatjuan]

Generalizing like you do about Jews?

YES! I fvcking hate those c0ck suckers for genocide in palestine. Fvcking c0ck suckers are stealing land. Fvck them!

But that is just me getting warmed up.

I fvcking hate them for jewing things up when you call them for SINS they do.

Good thing I'm in Russia and I am not constrained by political correctness and tolerance. I can say like it is without consequence.





P.S. I replied to your question, unlike you about my question whether you know or know muslims personally. To which you did not reply, fvcking c0ck sucker, they call you blue because of police academy movies.

Now I called you gay, prove it otherwise.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

YES! I fvcking hate those c0ck suckers for genocide in palestine. Fvcking c0ck suckers are stealing land. Fvck them!

But that is just me getting warmed up.

I fvcking hate them for jewing things up when you call them for sh1t they do.

Good thing I'm in Russia and I am not constrained by political correctness and tolerance. I can say like it is without consequence.

Well that didn't take much did it? As you white knight the Muslims, who are burning countries on 5 continents as we speak, and criticize me for "generalizations", all it took was one reference to the Jews and you flew off the handle like an unhinged lunatic. Zero perspective, just classic anti-Semitism.

BTW, there is no "genocide" against the so-called "Palestinians". Its a lie.

 

[Trunks]

Why can't Israel and Palestine merge into one secular nation, created to honor both ethnicities?

 

[backseatjuan]

As you white knight the Muslims, who are burning countries on 5 continents as we speak

WTF. Just have to question you, WTF are you talking about.

Before I proceed to your next statements.

 

[backseatjuan]

Why can't Israel and Palestine merge into one secular nation, created to honor both ethnicities?

I had similar question, although I did not ask it online, I had it to myself. I do not know. I refuse to guess.

I hope blue alpha can answer, perhaps??

Blue alpha we need your answer, fag.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

I had similar question, although I did not ask it online, I had it to myself. I do not know. I refuse to guess.

I hope blue alpha can answer, perhaps??

Blue alpha we need your answer, fag.

I know more Muslims than you. I had 3 Saudi roommates in college and grew up in a Pakistani neighborhood in Brooklyn. You are delusional if you think Jews are 1% of the issue Muslims are.

And you are clearly a closeted homosexual. 95% of your posts reference gays or "fag". I get it, in your country they execute gays, so you must be dealing with some self hate.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Why can't Israel and Palestine merge into one secular nation, created to honor both ethnicities?

They should, and could, but every time Israel tries to make peace with ceasefires Hamas launches rockets indiscriminately, deliberately breaking ceasefires.

Hamas won one election in 2006, murdered their opponents and haven't has an election since. They are the party of violence and need to go to achieve peace. Israel can never rest, or even hope to negotiate, until they're gone.

I've studied this issue more than anyone on this forum and will debate anyone on in.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Why can't Israel and Palestine merge into one secular nation, created to honor both ethnicities?

1. Why can't America and England merge into one nation like they were before 1776?
2. Why can't Canada and Russia merge into nation to honour their mutual love for hockey? They could call it Crussia or Ranada...
3. Why can't Switzerland and Saudi Arabia merge into one nation and establish buddhism as their official state religion?

So many possibilities!