Go SHIRTLESS and other Tinder tips

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So been using Tinder for last few months and not getting the type of quality I would expect based my SMV. Grew frustrated and started doing some serious research. I think I've finally cracked it.

Pictures
Tinder is almost ALL about your pictures and mostly your main picture.

Here were a few mistakes I was making:
  • Having more than one person in my main pic
  • Smiling. Yes it's been proven in through numerous psychological tests experiments that women prefer men displaying stoicism. In fact "pride" was deemed the most attractive emotional state on a man's face. Something to think about.
  • Looking at the camera. Again, not as attractive. I think this is probably down to the perception that looking away suggests disinterest that feeds on women's desire to chasing
  • Got rid of all selfies. For better or for worse selfies have been labelled and perceived as a woman thing and a lot of girls don't like it when men take them
I changed all the above in my new pic. I also included the following "boosters":
  • Shirtless pic. Cropped to where you can just see the top of my boxers (calvin klein) and my whole upper body and face. Ironically in terms of size and shape my body is also almost identical to Mark Wahlberg in that famous Calvin Klein ad. I'm looking away from the camera too. I turned it greyscale and then added some effects to sharpen the picture. I also changed the scale to 1:1 (square) as this is how tinder brings the picture in. It basically avoids the pic coming in with less focus when uploaded to the app.
  • Pics taken by others typically with an interesting background (pyramids, looking over a famous bridge, etc)

Description
Less important than pics but still a good differentiator and offers decent conversation fodder. A few changes I made and tips
  • Job title. I have an interesting job at the moment and (fingers crossed) should be moving to an even more interesting role quite soon. I made sure this was displayed
  • University. If you went to an elite university this should also be displayed
  • In the actual summary section I tried bringing myself to life a bit. I'm an "Entrepreneur" rather than just a guy working on a side business. Use some flair.
That's it really. Pictures are pretty much 95% of the game. It's a joke. Next post I will show you guys a chat with a HB9 that I had probably an hour after making all these changes.
 
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Tinder chat with HB9

Me: Hey
Her: Hey you
Me: You volunteering to be my coach?
Her: I'm sure we can work on the definition of that six pack of yours
Me: I had a big lunch that day! Honest!
Her: I'm only joking love. I wish I had a six pack. I am a dance coach, not fitness
Me: I can help you get there. Give you a good workout. What kind of dance?
Her: Latin American ball room. What do you do? And what is this six pack looking for on Tinder?
Me: I just want to cuddle.
Me: Nice. I dabble in a bit of Salsa. We will have to Waltz some time. What are you looking for on Tinder.
Her: I'm looking for a cuddle too babe. Tinder is boring unless you're sick and in bed.
Me: Glad to see we're on the same page. Let's grab a drink soon. What's your number
Her: [Gives number]

From my experience the chat is a lot more fluid and it's much easier to push the frame to almost making her the pursuer which is ideal.

Since I made the changes above so far I've probably gotten atleast 5 times more tinder matches than usual. And the quality has shot up substantially too.
 
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I'm going to check it out. My abs are nearly on point so as soon as the job is done I'm going to get some pro shirtless pics.
 

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I guess if I had pics from an amateur bodybuilding or fitness show this.
 

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I guess if I had pics from an amateur bodybuilding or fitness show this.
Yes that would be a really good pic. I'm planning on taking another pic next month straight after a gym session sweat and all. Sounds gay but this stuff works. Just make sure the is taken by someone else and only has you in it.

And yes of the upper body I'd say abs are by far the most important for Tinder so make sure these are looking as shredded as possible. I actually made a mistake on this one since I legitimately took the pic (well my friend too the pic) after a heavy workout meal. However my abs are good enough to where this isn't a major issue and I still look more ripped than 99% of guys.
 

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Yes that would be a really good pic. I'm planning on taking another pic next month straight after a gym session sweat and all. Sounds gay but this stuff works. Just make sure the is taken by someone else and only has you in it.

And yes of the upper body I'd say abs are by far the most important for Tinder so make sure these are looking as shredded as possible. I actually made a mistake on this one since I legitimately took the pic (well my friend too the pic) after a heavy workout meal. However my abs are good enough to where this isn't a major issue and I still look more ripped than 99% of guys.
Great work BeTheCHange. By the way, you only posted that one single picture?
 

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Great work BeTheCHange. By the way, you only posted that one single picture?
I have three others in various locations on my travels. Your other pics should show that you're an adventurous guy and leave her wanting to ask questions. Also been told that you with your dog looks great too. Don't own a one otherwise I would have added this.

Your main pic is what reels her in and should be doing the majority of the heavy lifting. Your main pic NEEDS to be as flawless as possible. Everything else is just decoration.

Can't stress this enough. I'm even thinking of going to a professional photographer next month, and bringing my gym weights with me in the car, just so I can get a pic looking my absolute best. Serious.
 
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The fact that just the presentation changes how much they wanna fvck you is a bunch of BS. But it's reality...

Does Tinder still only take pics that you have already posted to facebook? I always hated that about it.
You can make a private album on facebook that no one can see but you.
 

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At least the interesting background can be photoshopped. Not everyone can travel the world on a whim, nor do they have really good jobs. I'm TRYING to get a white-collar job, but actually GETTING it is absolute hell. In fact, I've done lots of trying, just not a lot of getting. And it would take months to get a 6 pack. Can't really afford a personal trainer right now, I gotta spend money getting my resume professionally written.
 

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At least the interesting background can be photoshopped. Not everyone can travel the world on a whim, nor do they have really good jobs. I'm TRYING to get a white-collar job, but actually GETTING it is absolute hell. In fact, I've done lots of trying, just not a lot of getting. And it would take months to get a 6 pack. Can't really afford a personal trainer right now, I gotta spend money getting my resume professionally written.
Until you can show body, a well fitted suit pic or shirt and tie and a casual outfit can get you rolling. But the guys are saying on tinder especially, it will set you apart if you can show a physique pic with abs as the highlight.
 

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I can relate, shirtless picture after a gym session made a lot of a difference in terms of quality and quantity.

Anyway I read different opinion about using such pics as profile one or secondary one, what do you think?

I noticed that girls who say "I decline those guys showing off" are most of the times girls looking for commitment and not for fun.
 

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I can relate, shirtless picture after a gym session made a lot of a difference in terms of quality and quantity.

Anyway I read different opinion about using such pics as profile one or secondary one, what do you think?

I noticed that girls who say "I decline those guys showing off" are most of the times girls looking for commitment and not for fun.
If your looking to get laid, I believe the shirtless should be the primary. And if you are looking for a relationship, it should be in there, but not one of the early pics. I don't fully know tinder, but that's what the guys are saying.
 

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If your looking to get laid, I believe the shirtless should be the primary. And if you are looking for a relationship, it should be in there, but not one of the early pics. I don't fully know tinder, but that's what the guys are saying.
Spot on. Had a tinder date the other night and from the great go we knew what this was. Girl was giving me IOUs off the bat. 3 drinks and then went for a quick meal. After that we went straight back to mine. Let's not pretend. We both know what this is. She was ready and waiting to get pounded.
 

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If you have a good body, you will easily pull on tinder. You don't even have to talk about yourself. Just two or three messages, ask for her number, ask her over and bang.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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What are the typical ages of the women you chat to on Tinder? Also is there a certain type? I think I can guess, but please do tell.
 

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If you have a good body, you will easily pull on tinder. You don't even have to talk about yourself. Just two or three messages, ask for her number, ask her over and bang.
This. I... don't have this right now.

I'm a party guy. I drink like I just came out of a desert a few times a week. Also, while I lift a bit, running sucks. I'll stick to real life stuff unless I suddenly get the urge to run marathons every day.
 

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Okay, so I am going to cold approach and give this OLD thing a try to start getting my feet wet. Signed up for POF, not a bad app.

What should I have for pics? I realize nobody ever sends me pics, so all I have are selfies and pictures of my boys.
Do you guys contact women if they say, want a relationship?
What other keys you look for perusing?

Women that have looked at my profile thus far are either not cute or late 30's. I am average in looks, but my pics kind of suck, and that probably doesn't help.
 

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Okay, so I am going to cold approach and give this OLD thing a try to start getting my feet wet. Signed up for POF, not a bad app.

What should I have for pics? I realize nobody ever sends me pics, so all I have are selfies and pictures of my boys.
Do you guys contact women if they say, want a relationship?
What other keys you look for perusing?

Women that have looked at my profile thus far are either not cute or late 30's. I am average in looks, but my pics kind of suck, and that probably doesn't help.
You'll have far more success cold approaching so if you have the time to do it, this should be your primary method of securing numbers.


With regards to OLD, your pics need to be perfect.

Avoid selfies - that's a woman's realm.

Say you're looking for a relationship. Anything else just screams pump and dump. Doesn't mean you can't operate in that frame when you meet them in person. It just shouldn't be explicit.

Other points I've already listed in previous posts in this thread.
 

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Okay, so I am going to cold approach and give this OLD thing a try to start getting my feet wet. Signed up for POF, not a bad app.

What should I have for pics? I realize nobody ever sends me pics, so all I have are selfies and pictures of my boys.
Do you guys contact women if they say, want a relationship?
What other keys you look for perusing?

Women that have looked at my profile thus far are either not cute or late 30's. I am average in looks, but my pics kind of suck, and that probably doesn't help.
Do cold approach night/day game and do OLD. Don't make the mistake of using OLD as a crutch like I used to.

Your pics are the most important thing on OLD. Especially the main one. You wont get far with bad pics. Get a tripod with a smart phone adaptor and take some pics. Then they don't look like selfies. If you have a nice body, then use a shirtless pic for your main pic. Women like pics where your looking away from the camera. There was a study done about it. If you have any action shots of you doing something fun, put those on there too.

Find a good opener and spam it out. A few messages back and forth. Then invite them for a drink. If they say yes, then tell them to give you there number.

Put that your looking for a serious/long term relationship, even if your not.
 
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