Is it really jealousy?

[SgtSplacker]

So you see your girl chatting up some dudes or whatever...

Do you have to be jealous?

I mean the emotions you feel at that moment, does it have to be described as jealousy and not just anger?

I was brought up with the understanding that jealousy is synonymous with envy, does that still hold true today?

If I see my girl chatting up some dudes or whatever my feelings have nothing to do with those dudes. It could be any guy and I would feel the same way. I just don't want her building relationships with other men to reduce the chances of her doing something inappropriate. To me it's all about odds and respect.

Why is everyone so quick to use the word jealousy in cases like this, I don't wish I had what those guys have. I don't envy them, I just don't want to be disrespected in a social setting when I am supposed to be having fun thus wasting my time for example.

Am I truly jealous but in denial of it? Or maybe just not understanding the true meaning of the word jealousy?

I don't get it....

 

[marmel75]

I guess it depends on what the situation is. In some cases it's simply insecurity on the mans part, i.e., he feels threatened by the other guys. If you didn't feel threatened by them, you wouldn't care.

In some ways it's like "defending your turf"...like a lion would do if another male lion tried to get at one of his females...

It depends on context to a large extent. If you are hanging out with friends and you get all uptight about her talking to mutual friends then I'd say you are insecure. If you are out somewhere and she goes up and starts talking to random dudes then I'd say you would probably be in the right...

 

[Bible_Belt]

If you have to put effort into keeping the pvssy on lockdown, then yes, that is jealousy. You say you don't want what the other guys have, but if they fvck her, then obviously you do want what they have, at least at that moment.

Having said that, if it is another guy who comes up and hits on a girl who at least appears to be with me, even if she really isn't, then that is an example of anger over disrespect from the other guy. My anger is at him, not her. For example, my 21 y/o girl that I let live on my couch is like a little kid mentally. She likes to go out dressed like a cat. We got into an argument once, because I wouldn't go to Wal-Mart with her dressed like that. The reason is that she is just asking for guys to pay her attention, which is not going to be cool with me when we are out together. I stay away from situations that could lead me to get into a fight, and that is certainly one of them.

 

[SgtSplacker]

OK I am now jealous of you because you have/had a 21 year old girl that likes to dress like a cat living on your couch. These things are typically not as good as they sound, but putting that aside the fantasy is truly epic. I thank you.

Even if someone was piping my girl I still don't want to be them. It would be with a girl I am already fuucking so no value there. and I like to fuuck when I am in the mood and at that very moment I am obviously not interested.

It's a non issue if I am standing right there, because I can handle that as a simple gesture against me.

"If you have to put effort into keeping the pvssy on lockdown, then yes, that is jealousy."

Seriously? why is it called jealousy? And just to be clear I do understand that too much effort into keeping your trim on lock is not a good thing.

But the word "jealousy"...

 

[SgtSplacker]

To the uninitiated, it is a form of jealousy. To the initiated it is like watching your stocks drop in value. I never feel jealousy anymore, just disappointment and sadness.

Exactly, I would be disappointed in her for just going there in the first place. And sad about the fact that I will have to treat her differently now.

 

[SgtSplacker]

This whole inquiry came about because I was listening to some of the Rollo videos and he also uses the word jealousy. And it just got me to thinking what the word really means if someone of his way of thinking uses it like this.

 

[resilient]

Exactly, I would be disappointed in her for just going there in the first place. And sad about the fact that I will have to treat her differently now.

It's a self-serving red herring for women, kind of like calling men insecure.

Having said that there is a part of the uninitiated beta that feels jealous of other men and so in those cases the jealousy label is accurate but incomplete.

Both true in my mind... It's a good way to reframe jealousy. It's not that you're pissed that other orbiters exist in her life, it just means to you have recalibrate your game with 1) she drops a few points in your interest level 2) she drops her potential for LTR until games/plates are dropped 3) her interest level should reinvest in you if wants to continue dating.

 

[SgtSplacker]

Both true in my mind... It's a good way to reframe jealousy. It's not that you're pissed that other orbiters exist in her life, it just means to you have recalibrate your game with 1) she drops a few points in your interest level 2) she drops her potential for LTR until games/plates are dropped 3) her interest level should reinvest in you if wants to continue dating.

Yeah man... I really don't want to live in a world where there at least was not but a chance to meet a hot, awesome, nympho, no shiit testing, pacifist, typa girl who is really... really into you. The prospective target of my jealousy would definitely fall a couple notches from this golden standard. lol

 

[Bible_Belt]

you have/had a 21 year old girl that likes to dress like a cat living on your couch.

Oh, she's still here. I've told her she has to find someone else's couch to live on, but everyone she knows is a young deadbeat like her, living with their parents. Kids today don't have jobs and their own place; that's a thing of the past. Modern youth live at home until they're in their 30s.

We used to fvck, but I don't fvck her any more. She's a big slvt, and I don't want to catch anything from her. When she gets drunk, she fvcks anybody. Every time we had sex, she was wasted and did not remember it the next day. Sometimes I barely remembered myself. One of my friends likes her, and I've been trying to pawn her off on him. The last time we all went out, we got her naked on his couch afterward, and then I just left and went home. And then the mother fvcker brought her back the next day (after she puked all over his house). I was like, what the hell, man, I left her there for a reason.

 

[SgtSplacker]

I had a girl like that try to stay with me once, said she did cam shows. I thought she was gonna steal my electronics so I said no. I did keep her on FB... I should have done it...

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

If you get 'angry' when your girl talks to other guys because you don't want her to cheat, that is jealousy. You want her for yourself, yet you don't want others to have her either and are somewhat insecure over it. This is jealousy. You literally described what jealousy is with an example too and said that you don't think it's jealousy. If my girl cheated on me (she prolly already has to be honest lol) I wouldn't care. She says she wanted a relationship and didn't want a friends with benefits and as of right now she's the only option I have so eh why not? I'll still go for other girls given the chance, especially cuz this chick is a hoe haha.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I was like, what the hell, man, I left her there for a reason.

Would it be illegal to give a girl a roofie and leave her in a paid hotel room a couple hundred miles away?

 

[MrWiggles]

Because it IS jealousy. You are jealous of the interaction she is having with the guy. You want that interaction to only happen with you and when it is happening with someone else you think it should only be happening with you. You probably think she is talking to him because he is funny, charming, tall, handsome or whatever and deep down inside you are jealous that she sees that in him enough to talk to him and not you.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Would it be illegal to give a girl a roofie and leave her in a paid hotel room a couple hundred miles away?

No, but mostly because the roofie itself would be illegal to possess, as well as slipping it to someone without their knowledge, which you did not state was the case, but is implied by the term 'roofie.' Plus the whole kidnapping thing...I'm sure your attorney would advise against such action.