Moral of the story is don't bang chicks that are half passed out. Doesn't matter if that's consensual or not, it's just asking for trouble. Certainly don't be an idiot and bang her behind a dumpster. He should get six months for the fondling, and six years for being a fvckign retard.Morale of the story, if you're caught fvcking a girl, or in the process, then don't run away.
Depends on who does what. If the swimmer was laying passively on the ground and the girl was actively doing something sexual to him, then she would be guilty. However, in this case it's opposite, he's active and she's passive. He's aware enough to perform sexual actions, she's not aware enough to resist, participate, give consent or know what's even happening.Ok, so when the woman is too drunk to be aware, she is a victim....when the man is too drunk to be aware, he is still guilty?
The active and passive part still applies. If they're both actively participating, then there is nothing to make a case of and it's not rape. If one of them are active and the other passive (yet still awake, but without a clear sign of consent and didn't really want it) then the active participant have committed rape or sexual assault, given the passive participant did not want it but was too drunk to express it.In this case yes, but what if both were too drunk to be aware, but both awake?
Incorrect, they often blame themselves a lot for what someone else did to them. They think "what if", like if they just didn't drink that much, if they just didn't go at all, if they just didn't talk to that guy. Is it right that they should restrict their lives because someone else will take advantage of it? Or is it right that other people shouldn't violate their lives so they can live freely and feel safe? What kind of society would you like to live in? One where people have to restrict their lives because we allow people to do whatever the fvck? Or one where we weed out those few so the rest of us can live with a higher degree of freedom and safety?Two idiots getting what they deserve. Girls rarely blame themselves for deciding to keep drinking past the point of consciousness.
@LiveFreeX Present some real arguments you fvcking idiot. Saying "everything that guy says is bullsh!t" is just a statement. It doesn't mean sh!t if you can't explain how it's bullsh!t.
If you cannot provide such explanation. I will assume you have no counter argument and are just raging like the fat, ugly pathetic f4ggot of a keyboard jockey you truly are. And it's of course true because I say so, obviously without doubt. Anyone who does not agree with me are fvcking idiots whose mothers should have had an abortion. Everything you have to say against the objectively true fact that you're a piece of sh!t is of course complete bullsh!t. Because I'm right, because I say so on an internet forum.
No.But if both are awake, drunkenly unaware, yet both consented, is there a guilty party? Does she have a right to claim rape the next day?
You believe that deciding not to drink until you aren't conscious of your actions is "restricting?" We should all just get high and drunk as much as we want every single day without any consequences based on that logic.Is it right that they should restrict their lives because someone else will take advantage of it? Or is it right that other people shouldn't violate their lives so they can live freely and feel safe?
I would love to live in a society where everyone thinks well of and cares for one another's well being. Unfortunately, that's not how the world is. You have to be smart enough to protect yourself. You have to know that there will be consequences for drinking until you're blanked out.What kind of society would you like to live in? One where people have to restrict their lives because we allow people to do whatever the fvck? Or one where we weed out those few so the rest of us can live with a higher degree of freedom and safety?
If I became so drunk past the point of remembering what happened in a room full of gay people knowingly, then yes, i would blame myself for having that happened to me. If I were the one who chose to keep drinking, then yes it would be my fault. Did this girl really believe that all of the guys in this party were innocent angels who would not be horny after a few drinks? Did she think that 100% of these dudes would be honorable and escort her back to safety? This is a college party we're talking about. Young kids who want nothing but to f*ck f*ck f*ck. Can you blame the lion for eating you if you're the one who walked into his den?Have you ever been so drunk you can't remember what happened? If yes, how would you feel about waking up with a sore a55hole because someone fvcked you while you were unconscious? By what you're saying you would blame yourself for drinking too much, and not the idiot who didn't care about whether you actually wanted a d!ck in your a55 or not.
Then one of them is lying, other evidence will be more important. If no such evidence exists then the charges should be dropped, that's the type of situation where innocent until proven guilty applies.And if the next day she says she didn't consent, but he says she did?
What if the guy is really hammered too? What if he's so drunk that he can't tell if his date knows what she's doing?If she is too drunk to know what she was doing, then yes.