Girls keep cancelling dates

[phil2015]

Yo guys

Been having some difficulties lately and wondering if anyone has any advice.

I'll keep this brief, but in a nutshell I keep getting rejected/cancelled on by women. I have no problem attracting women, talking with them or even arranging the dates.

Twice lately however I have had 3 dates lined up and both of them have thrown some excuse at me as to why they couldn't make it literally hours before hand.

I don't act needy with texts/whattsap or contact before hand and keep the conversation to light brief chats.

I am wondering however if there is any common trend which caused this? I feel as if I am doing something wrong but am genuinely unaware of what that is....

Any help or guidance would be appreciated

Thank you

P

 

[marmel75]

It's not always you...

If they are gonna cancel they will cancel...I went through a few streaks like that where it seemed 4 out of 5 dates canceled but then I had a stretch of about 20 dates with only 1 cancel. So sometimes it just runs in cycles.

Just keep doing what you are doing

 

[Tictac]

It can be a bad stretch and it will pass.

While there's no point in typing a text wall here to see if you're the common denominator, how you are 'showing up' may explain some of the flakes.

Rejection just happens. You can't be meeting new women if you're not able to handle rejection.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I just had a cancellation too...except this was even more fvcked up. We were supposed to meet last Saturday, but she disappeared off the site so I figured she just went ghost. Saw her back on Tuesday or Wednesday and I was like did you want to grab a drink still or are you just going to go ghost on me again?

She was like I got locked out and we had a date set it's just one of us didn't show up...and I told her I thought she just went ghost and the other few times it's happened the person never showed up so I don't go anymore...

Long story short she was like if you want to set up a date then let's do it, I'm available Saturday or Sunday...set up the date, she gave me her number do there was no confusion this time and I texted her Thursday telling her to save my number just in case...no response, didn't think anything of it.

I get to the place and text her to let me know when she gets here and that the parking situation was a little crazy and then I get a text back from someone claiming to be her "Mom" saying she was in a bad accident yesterday and that she doesn't know who this is because she doesn't have the number saved and she will give her the message when she gets better...lmao...

I just told her to give herself the message that I'm not into flakey women. Then I messaged her on the site she was "whack as fvck" and blocked her ass...

No time for stupid sh!t, but I guess she got her "revenge" she wanted.

 

[ubercat]

BITG y did you even go bruh? You can't negotiate attraction and this chick was sounding like a 90% flake risk. At the least I would have taken a leaf out of @guru1000 s playbook and scheduled a double header.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

BITG y did you even go bruh? You can't negotiate attraction and this chick was sounding like a 90% flake risk. At the least I would have taken a leaf out of @guru1000 s playbook and scheduled a double header.

Oh I always have a backup...someone just got to see me a little earlier than usual that's all...

And I didn't really negotiate anything, I ended up standing her up last Saturday albeit not intentionally...apparently that was her way of "winning". Her loss was another's gain.

 

[ubercat]

OP a bit of personal sharing. Last year I had 8 months of monk mode after the breakup of yet another ltr. Did things by the sosuave book. Prioritised working on my physique and physical attractiveness. Did enough socializing to keep up my network. Studied here and posted every damn question I'd ever had about game. Got into o l d as the fastest way to start going on dates.

Had flakes, attention *****s gold diggers hot cold chicks every animal in the zoo. I figure just by the fact that we walking around today we come from a long line of people who refused to die.

So I persisted. Fast forward 6 months I bumped uglies with an x in New Zealand, shagged a Malaysian chick for 6 weeks, had a 4 week overlap with a Filipino chick and started dating my current girlfriend. And I've turned a couple of my plates into orbiters which keeps my girlfriend in line.

I have no idea whether it's pheromones alignment of the planets or whatever but bad stretches of up to 6 months can happen. And when you re enter the dating scene it always seems to be like job hunting it seems to take a while to ramp up. There's also a huge pile of Bad Seeds in the online dating scene so statistically I reckon you could easily go through a couple of months of meeting them just by random chance.

So keep your guard high, keep swinging and remember outcomes or not you're still improving your skills.

 

[RangerMIke]

I get flaked on all the time, it happened to me a couple of weeks ago, and again last week.

It happens to all of us and you just have to not let it get to you. Try not to over think it, and just accept that this is just the way women are.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Flakes are lack of interest, not enough rapport, or legitimate.

Try to keep arranging a date within jus a couple days of the actual date, as it is less likely her interest will drop off in that time period. This is for before her interest level is stabilized. Not enough rapport means you just haven't warmed her up before the date enough. Some chicks don't need any rapport. Some need a lot more. At the end of the day it is all based on her feelings so there is little you can do.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I just had a cancellation too...except this was even more fvcked up. We were supposed to meet last Saturday, but she disappeared off the site so I figured she just went ghost. Saw her back on Tuesday or Wednesday and I was like did you want to grab a drink still or are you just going to go ghost on me again?

Bad play, you just displayed neediness. I also refrain from asking her out directly on the site, personally. Try to get her number to chat. The rapport is key before the first date, especially online. This isn't a necessary step in day-game, because rapport is established in person.

She was like I got locked out and we had a date set it's just one of us didn't show up...and I told her I thought she just went ghost and the other few times it's happened the person never showed up so I don't go anymore...

Now you're explaining herself (seeking her approval).

Long story short she was like if you want to set up a date then let's do it, I'm available Saturday or Sunday...set up the date, she gave me her number do there was no confusion this time and I texted her Thursday telling her to save my number just in case...no response, didn't think anything of it.

She's giving you a chance, now you messed it up displaying more neediness. You send her a ping text with something a little less needy.

"Name from site."

I get to the place and text her to let me know when she gets here and that the parking situation was a little crazy and then I get a text back from someone claiming to be her "Mom" saying she was in a bad accident yesterday and that she doesn't know who this is because she doesn't have the number saved and she will give her the message when she gets better...lmao...

Dude, you never leave the house for either of the first two dates without a confirmation text. Send it about an hour or two before you leave.

"If you get there first, save me a seat."

Make sure it's something non-needy. Make the assumption she will show. If you get no response, don't leave.

I just told her to give herself the message that I'm not into flakey women. Then I messaged her on the site she was "whack as fvck" and blocked her ass...

No time for stupid sh!t, but I guess she got her "revenge" she wanted.

And now you further lowered your value by calling her out.

 

[phil2015]

In the past month how many women have you invited to meet you?

I had a receptionist go out of her way to give me her number when I was at the doctors appointment the other week. We chatted and I arranged for her to come over for a steak.....she got a migraine 2 hours before hand.....

The other I may online on Monday and wanted me to go for drinks at her house yesterday......She had family issues yesterday morning.....

Met a HB7 yesterday online and have drinks arranged for Wednesday night in the city.....This one is a live date, but wondering if I can do something different with this one than other 2 to stop her cancelling.....

 

[Poon King]

Flaking is just something women do. Sometimes its about you and sometimes its not. Doesn't matter either way. The key is to understand how women operate so you can do things in a way that benefits YOU even if its sometimes at their expense.

What I do is always double or triple schedule meet ups AND I always do them within a few blocks from my apartment. I just happen to live near a vibrant strip of bars and restaurants in my city so this is easy. However, knowing that women are huge flakes, I'm not about to fill up my schedule all week with dates. What I do instead is pick one or two days a week I am free to meet a woman. Then I schedule all my plates to meet me at the same time. The first girl to confirm is the one I meet and I cancel/flake on the others.

Still.. even if they all flake.. I only have to walk a block or two from my apartment to meet them.. so nothing really lost. It should also be noted that forcing the woman to travel to a place YOU want to meet is important. This demonstrates both her interest level AND submissiveness. A woman who is not submissive and won't do any leg work is probably entitled. Better to weed her out now.

MEN: Never inconvenience yourself to accommodate a woman you're not already f*cking. Only after you've f*cked does she earn a "special" spot in your busy calendar. Otherwise its first-c*m first-serve with each of your plates.

 

[Tictac]

And now you further lowered your value by calling her out.

^^^^ This. Unnecessary and counter-productive. You sound all butt hurt when you do stuff like this. Just move on without a word.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Bad play, you just displayed neediness. I also refrain from asking her out directly on the site, personally. Try to get her number to chat. The rapport is key before the first date, especially online. This isn't a necessary step in day-game, because rapport is established in person.



Now you're explaining herself (seeking her approval).



She's giving you a chance, now you messed it up displaying more neediness. You send her a ping text with something a little less needy.

"Name from site."



Dude, you never leave the house for either of the first two dates without a confirmation text. Send it about an hour or two before you leave.

"If you get there first, save me a seat."

Make sure it's something non-needy. Make the assumption she will show. If you get no response, don't leave.



And now you further lowered your value by calling her out.

I go on 3-4 New dates a week, I have 3 active fvck buddies and another one I had an 8 month fvck buddy relationship with who is back in the picture I met up with Saturday who basically texted me the day after that she wanted to fvck last night and can't wait til she sees me again so that can happen. She was out of the picture for 4 months, I assume dating someone, which was cool, whatever, but I made her plan the date, pick the place and pay for it because I told her I'm done putting any effort into her and it's her turn if she wants something to happen. Whatever switch I must have flipped it seemed to work because she is trying to get st me hard again.

I have no neediness. I express myself directly and if they don't like it then that's on them.
And it doesn't matter to me if I "lowered my value" to her, she is automatically DQ'd. I am bordering on overconfidence/arrogance right now, which might be a bad thing, but whatever. I'm turned up to the max right now. I've never done better with women then I am doing right now in my life. It's almost like they can sense my success and want to find out more about why.

As far as going to the place, I could care less, I'm VERY well known there by the employees and if they don't show I flirt with the bartenders, waitresses, etc...besides, it's on the way to 2 of the fvck buddies places so once I leave I just text the preferred one, if she responds in a timely manner, i head over there, if not I text the other one and head over there. If neither respond, I stay and flirt and see what else walks in. As in very well known, known as a guy who brings lots of different women thru there,makes out with all of them, and their assumption is that I have sex with many of them.

How do I know? Because one of them told me "I don't know how you have sex that much, doenst your d!cm get worn out??" And 3 other girls there started laughing hysterically and one said "I was thinking the same thing"...I laughed and responded, no it works pretty well, "Why are you trying to find out?" and she turned red and giggled...That is never a bad thing. Apparently I'm a topic of conversation when I'm there and they make bets among themselves as to how long it will be before I'm making out with the girl...true story...no lie.

I have gotten to the point I just do what I want because I have so much available right now, if one wants to think I'm "needy" then they can think what they want. I delete their number and keep it moving, there are 3-4 options to replace them next week.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I have no neediness. I express myself directly and if they don't like it then that's on them.
And it doesn't matter to me if I "lowered my value" to her, she is automatically DQ'd. I am bordering on overconfidence/arrogance right now, which might be a bad thing, but whatever. I'm turned up to the max right now. I've never done better with women then I am doing right now in my life. It's almost like they can sense my success and want to find out more about why.

It's not about whether you are truly needy or not. It's about if she perceives you as needed. You came off as needy in the exchange, whether you were dependent on the outcome ore not.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

It's not about whether you are truly needy or not. It's about if she perceives you as needed. You came off as needy in the exchange, whether you were dependent on the outcome ore not.

Hey, I get that, I just don't care anymore, haha.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Hey, I get that, I just don't care anymore, haha.

Don't care about results? That's cool.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Don't care about results? That's cool.

My results are pretty good, but I get your point, always room for improvement I suppose.

 

[Tenacity]

Flaking is just something women do. Sometimes its about you and sometimes its not. Doesn't matter either way. The key is to understand how women operate so you can do things in a way that benefits YOU even if its sometimes at their expense.

What I do is always double or triple schedule meet ups AND I always do them within a few blocks from my apartment. I just happen to live near a vibrant strip of bars and restaurants in my city so this is easy. However, knowing that women are huge flakes, I'm not about to fill up my schedule all week with dates. What I do instead is pick one or two days a week I am free to meet a woman. Then I schedule all my plates to meet me at the same time. The first girl to confirm is the one I meet and I cancel/flake on the others.

Still.. even if they all flake.. I only have to walk a block or two from my apartment to meet them.. so nothing really lost. It should also be noted that forcing the woman to travel to a place YOU want to meet is important. This demonstrates both her interest level AND submissiveness. A woman who is not submissive and won't do any leg work is probably entitled. Better to weed her out now.

MEN: Never inconvenience yourself to accommodate a woman you're not already f*cking. Only after you've f*cked does she earn a "special" spot in your busy calendar. Otherwise its first-c*m first-serve with each of your plates.

Hey man, when I get a chance I'm going to make that BOOK OF POON KING. I've just not had time to do it, but when I make it I want to make sure it gets in the DJ Bible.

Your material and commentary is just always 100% spot the fvck on....based on REAL WORLD shyt, and not cartoon character/keyboard jockey shyt like Sosuave is full of these days.