Sex before dinners?

[Yewki]

No matter how you slice it, a man negotiating with a woman to pay half looks incredibly weak. If she wants to go to an expensive restaurant, that's a GIGANTIC yellow flag.

Agree to never argue over payment, but you shouldn't let yourself be taken advantage of either. The guy who doesn't try to get her to chip in, or takes a girl he barely knows to a place outside his budget, is a sucker.

Nothing wrong with asking if she can cover half. If she resists or declines, don't argue just gracefully pay like it's nothing. And if she doesn't make it worth your while, laaaata.

 

[devilkingx2]

Bvll****. A man's time is worth his hourly rate. If he's unemployed, his time is worth zero. By making the woman pay for his drink, he forces her to go out into a man's world and earn money - by working for men - to give to him! 51% of women who cheat do so with men they met at work, and it serves her cheapskate cuckold right.

The man is expected to pay for the date. If you want a system where she offers sex first and then you pay, get a call girl.

your time, like anything else, is worth exactly as much as people will give you for it, since you're the one who makes the deal, you simply don't accept offers you feel are too low

what i meant in that post was that unless you're dating a supermodel her time is not worth a single cent more than yours, and if you think your time is more valuable than hers then you shouldn't be dating her in the first place, ergo all you need to do to make a date worth him time, energy, effort, etc. is to simply show up.

also, you wouldn't want a woman so fragile and inept that it's some great challenge to make her own money somehow anyway. do you want to be her boyfriend or her keeper?

that statistic you probably just made up reminds me of that one statistic where you're most likely to die in your house... you're most likely to die where you spend over half your life which is vastly more time than you spend anywhere else... you don't say? In this case, a woman is most likely to meet new people in the place she goes most often that has other people to interact with away from you... her job/school

finally, your woman should be cheaper than a call girl in a sex to money ratio and if she isn't then you have poor taste in gold diggers.

If you are going to an expensive restaurant on the first date or ANY date until you've had sex AT LEAST several times, you are doing it all wrong bro.

"expensive" is relative. what i would consider expensive and what you would depends solely on the currently unknown difference between our incomes(you probably make waaay more than me lol)

if something ever possesses me to date a girl who wants me to pay for her meals, i'll only ever go to cheap places, but if i find a girl who is neither broke nor looking for free meals then i wouldn't have a problem with going somewhere nice as long as i don't need to pay $100 to not get laid lmao

 

[marmel75]

"expensive" is relative. what i would consider expensive and what you would depends solely on the currently unknown difference between our incomes(you probably make waaay more than me lol)

if something ever possesses me to date a girl who wants me to pay for her meals, i'll only ever go to cheap places, but if i find a girl who is neither broke nor looking for free meals then i wouldn't have a problem with going somewhere nice as long as i don't need to pay $100 to not get laid lmao

Let me rephrase that...if you are going to ANY restaurant on a first date, you are doing it wrong...drinks(not coffee...drinks) is your goal...or some fun action type date where you can be in physical contact with her like walking trails in a park...where you can get "lost" and have hot makeout sessions, and tell her how you want to bend her over in front of this tree and go to town, lmao...

Restaurants set up "interviews". Not what you want for a first date.

 

[Dingo]

I can see this as an issue with the millennial entitlement vapid slut generation but I'm old school or maybe the way I was brought up but on a date I always pay for drinks, meal, entertainment.

If I am interested in someone enough to ask her out I have no problem spending the money.

 

[marmel75]

I can see this as an issue with the millennial entitlement vapid slut generation but I'm old school or maybe the way I was brought up but on a date I always pay for drinks, meal, entertainment.

If I am interested in someone enough to ask her out I have no problem spending the money.

The issue is it puts you in a provider role which means she withholds sex far longer than if you put yourself in a sexual role in most cases. At the least, you are spending money on chicks you have no idea if you'll even like if it's a first date