do men have any hope left ?

[Bingo-Player]

ok before i start i will say that not all women are like this BUT unfortunately the more and more I'm looking the more and more I'm starting to wonder where is it all going

i get the feeling now that a lot of women see themselves as far superior to men now especially the good looking ones which lets be honest.......

make-up has come so far in the last 20 years they can all potentially be good looking if they want to be and men won't turn much down when it comes to getting his d!ck into a hole,

hell thinking about it don't remember the last time i saw an "ugly" woman

fat yes , ugly no

now this sounds great on paper the vast majority of women becoming cosmetically beautiful , but the ugly reality of it is , its warping them

social media was of course the beginning of the end , 500 likes on selfies , 200 mails from guys daily , unlimited sources of attention what does this do to a woman mind ? ............and now its started getting really weird and I'm seeing viral memes with things like

"if he starts arguing wit you just remind him what that ass look like in lingerie" ...........lmao wtf

i get the impression men are now just seen as drooling morons that will do and spend just about anything to get a piece of pu$$y

today I've spent most of the day hangover I've been rolling around the house bored and I've been messing around on tinder

matched with say 20 girls today , i tried out loads of different stuff with all of them

. directly sexual
. nice guy
. bad boy
. the "I'm different guy"

all convos were dead within a few sentences , and i mean dead as in i was putting good material out as bait and receiving responses like

"haha"
"oh yea "

literally like wtf am i supposed to do with responses like that lmao , why are these girls even on tinder what is the point lol

this brings me onto the next favourite thing to do if your female ...........take hours to reply to simple messages and thats if you can be bothered to reply at all

i messaged a hoe last night on whatsapp a simple

"are you out tonight"

she responds to me at lunch time today with "oh sorry ive turned notifications off for this only just seen your message"

WHAT ......your telling me you haven't checked one of the apps on the device that is in your hand 24 hours a day

i just really struggle to see what is going on in women's minds anymore and yes this is primarily a social media issue

but seeing as a population we spend perhaps 60% of our time on it and communicating through it , the issue is very real

at first i thought it was just me going crazy or doing something wrong , but its not

EVERY MAN I SPEAK TO IS SAYING THE SAME THING

unless you can infiltrate a woman's real life social network and take command of it , you literally don't have a snowballs chance in hell anymore

 

[Who Dares Win]

I believe no one has knowledge or commands of the last 2 yrs modern dynamics, not even guys who are wise and run this place have any idea whats going on now.

Its not about maintaning a frame or be alpha or whatever, what is happening now has no previous record in our history therefore no past rule can be applied.

I believe we're just in the middle of a change and we cant really settle till the change happened.

What I believe needs to be considered on a bigger scale is the muslim pressure on Europe and the alienation of the average man in terms of relationships and work market, its no longer about "courage" but convenience, the current model doesnt reward the average man in any way, let alone them fighting to keep it.

 

[yuppee]

You are cheap and lazy, which leads you to look in the wrong place. All you will find there is the wrong type of woman. Look to the third world, but be careful about it.

 

[yungballa]

I've seen this. Plenty of times. There are too many girls like this nowadays, and a bunch of these types even at my age (teenagers); even at my school. They're just not as bad as some women, but are on that road.

I'll admit, in my perspective I think this whole situation is getting out of hand. But I won't sit here and complain. I just adapt to the times, bro.

If I ever encounter/see a girl who is of this type, that's a red flag to me. Girls who have very popular/busy social media accounts are the ones I stay away from, depending on how she acts in person.

If she's high-maintenance, and she's an attention ***** then it's a no-no. If she messages guys and ignores them on purpose just to inflate her ego its a no-no from me. If she thinks she's hot sh1t and no guy can reach her, its a no-no from me.

A lot of girls these days have a crazy ego, are high-maintenance, or attention *****s, and so on so forth. But, the option's up to you whether or not you want to talk to them... no one's forcing you to put up with them.

Like I said, I stay away from these types. I prefer to talk to girls whose social media accounts aren't soo busy (those are the ones who tend to be more responsive towards you in my experience), and aren't so freaking conceited its unbelievable.

With social media, thirsty guys, and the conceited mindset of girls things are only going to get worse in my opinion. But it's okay. All we have to do is just adapt. Stay away from those type of girls and you'll save yourself the stress.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

no lol, not till prostitution is legalized or technology has made virtual sex possible.

 

[Serenity]

Yeah we're all so infinitely fvcked. The world is going down the drain. Women turn into some nasty creatures. Everything is completely different from what it has ever been. Basic human interactions do not exist anymore. All men will live as slaves to this plague called women. They should be exterminated for the crimes they commit against men, they're pure random evil that can never be understood. It's the beginning of the end, doomsday.

Seriously, where do you guys get this sh!t?

 

[El Payaso]

Women respond with one liners or take forever to respond for two reasons.

1) She is getting TONS of messages and attention so she really can't be bothered to engage you.

2) You're boring or she has her eye on someone or you're just a source of validation for her.

 

[BeExcellent]

It's different but it's not different. The highest SMV men and women always had and continue to have abundance of choices in either live or virtual environments.

It's true that social media has allowed more people to put themselves out there on the market, but I don't see any appreciable difference from days past really. The communication medium is more & different. There are always many types of people, mostly average but a few exceptional and a few awful. One advantage of today's medium is you can pick out the insecure, the boring, the attention wh0res and those with no life pretty quickly. Then you can avoid them.

It's also ridiculous to expect an immediate response from someone else. Especially someone who is essentially a stranger.

Just because a stranger decided to reach out does not mean he or she should suddenly expect to become the recipient's highest priority.

We can never know what the other person has going on...we all tend to be self-centric. The problem comes when we expect someone else to focus on ourself the way we do...they won't! They don't! They are as self focused as the next person and not as focused on you as YOU are. That is life! Understand that & you let go of a lot of junk and perception that is self limiting.

In the answer machine days people didn't immediately call everyone back breathlessly either. But you also spent time physically away from your phone so people didn't have the unrealistic expectation of immediacy. Before there was the ability to beep in you just *gasp* got a busy signal...you had to actually try again! The unreasonable immediacy expectation is the big issue.

If this is what a person expects that person is either so insecure or so devoid of interesting pursuits in their own life that they hang on response time like some meaningful metric. It isn't. It's just noise.

It has been my own experience that someone who likes me (or who I like) will still like me in another hour or another day or 2. I'd still like someone I'm interested in another hour from now or another day or 2 from now.

But I am self-validated. So response time is immaterial to me. I respond or call back someone I like when I can carve out a time to focus on the interaction with that person so the potential communication can have a chance at being meaningful.

If a conversation drops never to restart, so what?

The men who like me do the same thing I do. Thing is that when I carve out time to interact may not be a good time for the man. If he likes me he will reach out when it's good for him. Why wouldn't he? I'm never going to pester someone. I would appear extremely low interest to someone who has these expectations even if I'm actually very high interest. I just respect the man & respect myself as well.

If men are going to expect the exact right woman to fall into his lap without leaving the comfort of the couch then laziness wins the day and hope is lost for those men.

I can't help but think men who continually espouse 3rd world women are men who felt they couldn't succeed in their own locale and gave up on some level, for reasons they find valid. It's a free world and all are entitled to their choices and preferences but perhaps some of those men are also bitter when they see others who have succeeded in the 1st world because it challenges their dearly held belief that success there was not possible.

Several posts and threads recently have touched on the truth. It looks back at you from your mirror. And the truth is different for different people. That too is life.

If you want better SMV women, improve your SMV. It's that simple. But it will require effort. The more you want to raise the bar, the more effort is required. Some got more natural value to work with. That's life too so get over it. But to be lazy and gripe about things is to wallow in victim poor-me mentality, which is self defeating and self fulfilling.

It's self indulgent and a waste of time. Quit it & get busy doing!

 

[PeasantPlayer]

This thread is subconsciously putting women on a pedestal IMO. Who cares about women, stop forcing and self sabotaging yourself, adapt if you must, women are not my main focus in life and never will be. They are a by product of the best complete version of myself I can be

 

[Dingo]

This subject is very interesting to me....

There is no question that society is changing. I believe technology is slowly changing human psychology and biology. This is reflected in the modern dating game.

Interesting stuff....

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Society is changing, I feel like something big is on the horizon, I think people are waking up, what was once thought of as conspiracy theories are now being proven to be true. This world truly is in troubling times and they way people act is just a symptom of the bigger problem. With that said there has been more discoveries that were once shunned by "mainstream science" There is good out there its just watered down by the bad and idiotic

 

[JohnChops]

This thread is subconsciously putting women on a pedestal IMO. Who cares about women, stop forcing and self sabotaging yourself, adapt if you must, women are not my main focus in life and never will be. They are a by product of the best complete version of myself I can be

this. If you always think with the mindset of "this is the way it is, I can't change the meta" you are in the wrong. The meta can always be changed.

Also, girls on tinder don't count as women, they count as low class groveling attention wh0res.

 

[zekko]

matched with say 20 girls today , i tried out loads of different stuff with all of them

. directly sexual
. nice guy
. bad boy
. the "I'm different guy"

all convos were dead within a few sentences , and i mean dead

You're putting up false facades in an effort to get a reaction. Better off to be yourself and try to establish an actual, authentic connection with another person, instead of using this PUA bullsh!t. Maybe it won't get you a makeout in the club bathroom within 10 minutes, but it will never go out of style.

A lot of people don't like the "be yourself" advice, but I think they take it a little too literally - like you have to expose all your weaknesses and flaws in order to be genuine. You want to be yourself, but be your best self. Men are supposed to be strong - aspire to improve and build your strength and show that. Don't act like a little pvssy because that is your self image. Aspire to be your better self.

 

[Aryan Prince]

Its all mainly to do with Men.... When was the last time u saw a fat ugly woman pushing a pram..... For me its an everyday occurence, meaning that some men have no taste and will settle for whatever beast will sit on their D, then u have the girls/woman who go out to night clubs and are constantly came onto by at least 50% of the males in the club everyday they go out, this will harden and amplify a womans behaviour 2wards men. Men in general are not very cool when it comes to pulling in a night club, add alcohol to the mix and every man thinks he's a DD!

 

[RangerMIke]

Women will always think they are better than they really are. The only thing that we as men can do about it is not allow her opinion of herself dictate our actions. You can not help the fact that there are parades of weak men willing to worship women, just don't be one of them and understand that a woman will never really love a man that worships her. She might temporarily gravitate towards a guy like this to get a validation fix, but that drug wears off fast.

Any interaction with a woman that is not face to face is POINTLESS. First there is NO WAY she will have ANY attraction for a man until she actual sees him in person. Until you actually meet her you are less than nothing to her. I don't do online dating, but if I did all I would be doing is trying to make dates. If she won't meet you, then just move on.

All this stupidity of trying to build attraction with women you have NEVER met, over a computer, is a waste of time. Just recognize you matched and try to set up a meet-up. "I see we matched, let's meet in person." Any other answer accept 'Sure' is ignored.

 

[Glumix]

Men are so weak these days... Not surprising women have so many options.

Weak men competing against weak men to enter the low quality pvssies. That's 2016.

Men bored at home not knowing what to do except browsing chicks and calling exes. They don't want to be orbiters but their whole life orbits around women. So funny.

 

[Bingo-Player]

many may try to bury their heads in the sand over this saying we are just imagining it

i used to think like that too , but the reality is there is too many people saying the same thing now for it to just be hear say, a vast majoirty of womens attiudes are horrendous and society is changing and its changing fast

im just about managing to get pu$$y enough for it not to be too much of an issue for me yet , but im probably 2 maybe 3 years ahead of your average man when it comes to actaully dealing with and managing women

these chicks must be ripping average guys limb from limb

i really do fear what is to come

 

[Aryan Prince]

Keep your frame..... Smile and enjoy the ride!

 

[Yewki]

You're taking this too seriously.

But with that said, can you really blame them for thinking they're more important? Let's reverse roles for a second. What if,

1) You had women constantly sucking up to you
2) You had women bending over backwards to help you out, with everything
3) You had women frequently paying for your meals and entertainment
4) You had women constantly praising you and complimenting your looks
5) You had women eagerly liking everything you post
6) You had women constantly flirting with you
7) You had women constantly pursuing you for attention
8) You had hundreds of messages and notifications from women using OLD, every day

If women stooped to such pathetic behavior, how could you not feel superior to them?

 

[Aryan Prince]

You're taking this too seriously.

But with that said, can you really blame them for thinking they're more important? Let's reverse roles for a second. What if,

1) You had women constantly sucking up to you
2) You had women bending over backwards to help you out, with everything
3) You had women frequently paying for your meals and entertainment
4) You had women constantly praising you and complimenting your looks
5) You had women eagerly liking everything you post
6) You had women constantly flirting with you
7) You had women constantly pursuing you for attention
8) You had hundreds of messages and notifications from women using OLD, every day

If women stooped to such pathetic behavior, how could you not feel superior to them?

True, men make it easy 4 women to get an enflated ego, when i usd to go out to the local rock club i wud take my t-shirt off...... Well their was definitly a turn around, the amount of attention of single and attached women was as some points ridiculus, i had to control my ego.... Not everyone can do this, i refer to what women and sum lucky men guys go through as Toading..... Basicly when a female toad is fertile she gets gang raped by so many male toads that often the female toad dies..... A woman in a nightclub gets Toaded and she will adapt to it and become thicked skined where guys find it hard to aproach or get anywhere with a toaded female! PS big(not oversized) muscles on a man is like big t.i.ts and a round azz on a woman!!!!