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If your goal is to live in America, I would not advise marriage. My goal is to escape back to the 3rd world and build a bridge between the two so that I don't have to deal with regular society in any capacity.
Escape? Why are you running away from rather than running toward YOUR problems?

The coward dies perpetually. The brave, just once.
 

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Running toward your problems? Do you run head first into a fire fight or a bad marriage?

I don't even need to ask.
 

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Running toward your problems? Do you run head first into a fire fight or a bad marriage?

I don't even need to ask.
Is this how your justify your escape? Comparing living in America to a fire fight or bad marriage? LOL!

Embrace your problems, my friend. A man that flies from his fear may find that he has only taken a short cut to meet it.
 

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NO US born woman has a CLUE about many things that a 3rd world woman takes in stride without a hitch or second thought. They have never experienced real adversity or risk.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Embrace your problems, my friend. A man that flies from his fear may find that he has only taken a short cut to meet it.
NO US born woman has a CLUE about many things that a 3rd world woman takes in stride without a hitch or second thought. They have never experienced real adversity or risk.

I'm starting to believe that a large majority of sosuave users are actually just american women because a lot of their answers revolve around staying in their tiny little safe space, guarded away from the realities of life outside the Disney empire.

. What happens when governments go bad and resources become scare? People leave. Its as if most of you have no idea about GLOBAL history past the last 100 years. I'm guessing that's the case as many here believe the answer to all their problems lies in staying in the location they are in and figuring out a way to 'work through it'... lol, travel back a few hundred years and tell all the merchants of the Indian Ocean trade companies to forget about transporting wood from Africa and just figure out a different way of building up the Arab empire with houses and boats made of.... Rock? All problems are solvable from the point of origin, correct? Ignorant and stupid, but that's the majority of Americans today. Tell the nearly 30 million men in China who will NOT be getting access to a woman in any shape or form to just 'stay home' and solve their problems then back it up with some quote taken entirely out of context... Your solutions are so retarded, I have trouble even insulting you sir.
You do realize that the 1st world extends far beyond the borders of America right? There are first world countries all over the planet. Confining yourself to a few small towns in one nation, and making the argument that GLOBALLY all things are the same for all peoples is simply ludicrous.

I don't live in America, nor am I American, I don't know where people are getting this notion. Regardless, marriage is still a good deal for a large percentage of the world's population, just not in the USA. If your products are of poor quality and you don't have the means or resources to design better ones, the smartest alternative is to import or travel to markets that already manufacture better product and invest in that. Makes perfect sense to me.

The only people that don't want you to know this are your competitors and who is in direct competition with foreign product? American women.
 
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The reality of women in the 3rd world


The reality of 90% of Americans.



In essence you are saying that you'd rather have a slut who CHOOSES to defile her body in the 1st world instead of a woman who would prefer to hold on to a shred of her sex life at the cost of her death. Bunch of spoiled little american princes and princesses trying to tell the rest of the world how to live and deal with life.

It seems to me, the only cowards are those choosing to stay entirely in the developed world where life is easy, then complaining that the people they date are also cowards who take the easy road. Its a never ending circle of crap. You complain marriage is a raw deal yet you choose crap women and judge all women by that standard. All men are dawgs? All women are sluts? Please, the West can't end soon enough.. If you were to ask me, I would say the majority of modern day American MEN are fat, lazy, KFC eating slobs. that would rather b1tch and whine about living life than actually get out and see it for themselves. Am I spot on here?
 
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I'm starting to believe that a large majority of sosuave users are actually just american women because a lot of their answers revolve around staying in their tiny little safe space, guarded away from the realities of life outside the Disney empire.
I've pointed this out before, especially with Legend. No offense, I'm starting to think that Legend might be a woman. After all, Live Your Dreams is a woman and she did NOT reveal that until after well over a year of writing a lot of touchy feely, overly emotional type of content.

I have nothing against women being on here, but when you hide that you are a woman, in my opinion that's just messed up. In addition, I have no idea why women would join this site other than to try and program the minds of blue pill men on here in an attempt to get them to remain blue pill.

Live Your Dreams is listed as one of the "top" members on this site, what does that tell you? It tells you that SoSuave is becoming OVERLY blue pill to where you can't even have intelligent, HONEST, discussions about what's going on in the market anymore without being categorized as some bitter lunatic.
 

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Escape? Why are you running away from rather than running toward YOUR problems?

The coward dies perpetually. The brave, just once.
@l_e_g_e_n_d , you should never run to problems always run away from problems. You marry and you risk so much. Think about the fact that if you divorce she now owns half of your assets. If you have children women own custody the overwhelming majority of the time and you are going to be stuck paying the tab. Also, there is buying the ring which is expensive being most engagement rings are diamond, the wedding, ect. So you are literally making a HUGE financial investment in something. The divorce rate in America is around 50%, 78% of divorces are initiated by the woman. Those odds are literally like playing Russian roulette. So why would you take that much of a financial risk? Just to prove you are courageous? Don't you see that marriage is more of a financial and legal contract than it is actually about love.

I say let men do what they want, and choose as they would. If men do not want to marry then it is their prerogative. In fact, it takes strength not to marry and to not give in due to the societal pressures to marry, due to the drive and need for affection, due to many factors which is why so many people marry for the wrong reasons.
 

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^^^ This right here. Guys who have gone MGTOW all the way or gone semi-MGTOW, are always labeled as "weak" by the mainstream blue pill guys and feminists, when the opposite couldn't be more true.

It takes a hell of a lot of discipline to follow the "brain" in your head, rather than the one in your pants. I have to literally CATCH myself because the "brain" in my pants is always literally begging me to stick him in the girl I'm with raw....which if an unwanted pregnancy comes out of that (or an STD) it will change my life for the worse.

Now granted, as Aaron Clarey points out, SOME of the guys in the MGTOW movement are fakers. They are fakers in that they don't approach women, they don't date women, and they haven't been through any fire in terms of dealing with women....mainly because they are chicken-shyt of going through rejection or fixing themselves up to the point of where they can be attractive to women. These are the guys that give the movement a bad name.[/user]
 

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My wife would never dream of using the courts to force me to do anything. She knows that I"m an outlaw at heart the the result would be the opposite of what she was trying to achieve. Furthermore, I love my daughter and intend to provide a proper 50% of her support. We agree on how things should be done. You guys are hanging around with the wrong type of woman.
 

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I definitely lost a few IQ points reading a couple responses in this thread.

I'm starting to believe that a large majority of sosuave users are actually just american women because a lot of their answers revolve around staying in their tiny little safe space, guarded away from the realities of life outside the Disney empire.

. What happens when governments go bad and resources become scare? People leave. Its as if most of you have no idea about GLOBAL history past the last 100 years. I'm guessing that's the case as many here believe the answer to all their problems lies in staying in the location they are in and figuring out a way to 'work through it'... lol, travel back a few hundred years and tell all the merchants of the Indian Ocean trade companies to forget about transporting wood from Africa and just figure out a different way of building up the Arab empire with houses and boats made of.... Rock?
So ... you "escape" to a third-world country due to the scarce resources from a first-world country. LOL! What won't the ego do in attempt to bulwark its fragility?

Remember this.
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My goal is to escape back to the 3rd world and build a bridge between the two so that I don't have to deal with regular society in any capacity.
Congrats, you are not freed from dealing with regular society and challenges of any kind. I wish you the best of luck in your daily video game marathon.

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I've pointed this out before, especially with Legend. No offense, I'm starting to think that Legend might be a woman. After all, Live Your Dreams is a woman and she did NOT reveal that until after well over a year of writing a lot of touchy feely, overly emotional type of content.
Tenacity, if I were a woman, and I made you my bytch in the "anger" and "stock" threads, where would that leave you?

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you should never run to problems always run away from problems. You marry and you risk so much. Think about the fact that if you divorce she now owns half of your assets. If you have children women own custody the overwhelming majority of the time and you are going to be stuck paying the tab. Also, there is buying the ring which is expensive being most engagement rings are diamond, the wedding, ect. So you are literally making a HUGE financial investment in something. The divorce rate in America is around 50%, 78% of divorces are initiated by the woman. Those odds are literally like playing Russian roulette. So why would you take that much of a financial risk? Just to prove you are courageous? Don't you see that marriage is more of a financial and legal contract than it is actually about love.
Who stated to get married? Running toward your problems is not to be confused with making short-sighted or ill-advised decisions or creating problems. Problems and challenges are already present. When challenges appear, do you "escape" and leave the country as LiveJailed did above or do you address them?

Hint: YOU are the master of your fate. No where to run, my friend; as if you elect to, you will be greeted with an identical challenge.
 

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My wife would never dream of using the courts to force me to do anything. She knows that I"m an outlaw at heart the the result would be the opposite of what she was trying to achieve. Furthermore, I love my daughter and intend to provide a proper 50% of her support. We agree on how things should be done. You guys are hanging around with the wrong type of woman.
Well, you can beat your chest all day and talk about how much you are "running things", but the reality is that once you sign the marriage contract your "alpha male-ness" pretty much gets signed away. Sure, you can try to maintain the frame (which is what I recommend), but the REALITY is that from a legal standpoint, the woman can drop a bomb on you and destroy your life at a moment's notice.

You being a "thug" will just give her attorney more ammo in court.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Congrats, you are not freed from dealing with regular society and challenges of any kind. I wish you the best of luck in your daily video game marathon.
^^^ This is why I believe you are a woman. You equate a man standing up for himself and "going his own way" to a loser who sits on the couch all day playing video games? You sound like a feminist.


Tenacity, if I were a woman, and I made you my bytch in the "anger" and "stock" threads, where would that leave you?
You made me your bytch in the stock thread? Are you talking about the thread where I posted information on Individual Bonds and you didn't know the difference between an investment grade and a non-investment grade Bond? Are you talking about in the same thread where you had to be taught that it's better to buy an index fund than to individually pick stocks? Are you also talking about in that same thread where you had to be educated on what the hell a P2P portfolio was?

You made me your bytch in my "anger" thread? Are you talking about how you continued to post touchy feely bullshyt and I would call you out on it?


Who stated to get married? Running toward your problems is not to be confused with making short-sighted or ill-advised decisions or creating problems. Problems and challenges are already present. When challenges appear, do you "escape" and leave the country as LiveJailed did above or do you address them?
There's no addressing the issues in relation to the marriage situation. There's no amount of filtering, there's no pre-nup, there's no NOTHING that can mitigate the risks of the marriage contract. The woman can decide to divorce you at any time, and IF she does, there will be losses. There are things you can do before and during the marriage to limit said losses, but there will be losses.

I can't think of one......just ONE.....benefit to a man from getting married.

YOU are the master of your fate.
More touchy feely bullshyt that does not address the concrete issues at hand. This is why I say you are a woman, it's because you make emotional arguments JUST LIKE a woman.
 

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^^^ This is why I believe you are a woman. You equate a man standing up for himself and "going his own way" to a loser who sits on the couch all day playing video games? You sound like a feminist.
You didn't know your buddy LiveFree, by his own admission, literally sits on a couch and plays video games all day? And this is your best friend? LOL

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You made me your bytch in the stock thread? Are you talking about the thread where I posted information on Individual Bonds and you didn't know the difference between an investment grade and a non-investment grade Bond? Are you talking about in the same thread where you had to be taught that it's better to buy an index fund than to individually pick stocks? Are you also talking about in that same thread where you had to be educated on what the hell a P2P portfolio was?
The bonds you cited were low-rated junk bonds, including a few Florida REITs, where you are tied up for 30 years hoping the REIT remains solvent (or liquidate pre-maturity at a steep discount), analogous to a risk greater than taking a dart and throwing it at the Wall Street Journal, blindfolded and drunk. Compounding your investment "acumen" further, you recommended investing into hundreds of personal loans with Lending Club, without the rudimentary understanding that your investment with Lending Club, a corporation, is only as fruitful as the likelihood of that corporation remaining solvent. You have the mind of a simpleton, champ--and were great entertainment for that thread when you cried and proclaimed that you will ignore me, LOL!

There's no addressing the issues in relation to the marriage situation. There's no amount of filtering, there's no pre-nup, there's no NOTHING that can mitigate the risks of the marriage contract. The woman can decide to divorce you at any time, and IF she does, there will be losses. There are things you can do before and during the marriage to limit said losses, but there will be losses.
Oh, I am supporting marriage? Please cite that my little lollipop. You believe anything from secondary sources, heh, just like your "A+" rated bond haven. LOL!
 
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you have no clue who you are talking to, punk. My wife DOES know.
 

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You didn't know your buddy LiveFree, by his own admission, literally sits on a couch and plays video games all day? And this is your best friend? LOL
No, I wasn't aware of that......but I'm glad you are though. So I'm curious, about how many hours per week does he play video games? You know, because the topic of this thread is "marriage" and because you fail to refute the points mentioned in this thread, you feel as though it's relevant to I guess, throw out personal attacks?


The bonds you cited were low-rated junk bonds,
None of these bonds are junk bonds - https://personal.vanguard.com/us/FixedIncomeHome

You like to make up shyt because you are full of shyt.

Compounding your investment "acumen" further, you recommend investing into hundreds of loans with Lending Club, without the rudimentary understanding that your investment with a corporation is only as fruitful as the likelihood of that corporation remaining solvent.
WTF, that's with any investment in ANY company, be it a stock, bond, annuity, P2P loan, etc.,what you are saying makes no damn sense.

You have the mind of a simpleton, champ--and were great entertainment for that thread when you cried and proclaimed that you will ignore me, LOL!
Why do you type LOL after everything? And you are ignored, I only mentioned your name to bring up the point of how there's many members on here like YOU, who pose like a guy but that's really a woman underneath the username.


Oh, I am supporting marriage? Please cite that my little lollipop.
What grown man calls another grown a.ss man lollipop? Back on ignore you go, I'm damn sure not about to sit up here and debate a so called grown a.ss man who calls other grown men "lollipop".
 

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Only a woman would take offense to a man who enjoys his hobbies.

I play video games with my friends and MY WIFE, we are all avid fans of HALO, League of Legends and soon to be Playstation VR. I play magic cards (in night clubs and on the job), teach break dance (job), have a full time job, a part time job, a small business, 2 college diplomas, a small house and a trade, at least you can tell I'M A MAN. If I sit and play video games in the basement, at least its MY basement. I'm open and honest about who I am, who the hell are you to tell me anything?

I mention that I go overseas and want to create a trade bridge between two countries... What man harps on another guy for that? A wo-man.

So ... you "escape" to a third-world country due to the scarce resources from a first-world country. LOL! What won't the ego do in attempt to bulwark its fragility?

Remember this.
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My goal is to escape back to the 3rd world and build a bridge between the two so that I don't have to deal with regular society in any capacity.
Congrats, you are not freed from dealing with regular society and challenges of any kind. I wish you the best of luck in your daily video game marathon.
Wait, how the fck do you presume to know my life? Do you know me, because if you did you'd know that I don't deal with regular society's bvllsh1t and I've got quite a few users on the forum who know me IRL, who will back me up on this.

Yep, escape... when you figure out how much you are being fcked by living in just one country and sourcing everything from a pool of dwindling resources, let me know Sucker.
 
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