Is maintaining relationships different for alpha males?

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Women should in theory be attracted to a man that that can leave her on the drop of a dime without ever looking back. But In my experience every time a woman gets this vibe from me, or feels that I care less about the relationship than her, she just ends up breaking up with me. I've never once had a woman leave me for being clingy or blowing up her phone too much, or talking to her too much, only for not talking to her enough.

I live my own life, I keep texting to a minimum unless its arranging a date, I give girls their space, but In my experience women these days want you all over them they hate a guy that has his own life. Is a girl losing respect for you sometimes necessary to keep her happy? what am I doing wrong? I am an attractive man with options so I just find it hard to get invested in a female emotionally when I know there is always a new bus coming every twenty minutes.
 
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Cats have a ego problem and think they are the only alpha males out here. You can be alpha and lose ya chick to another alpha male. Hell you can lose ya chick to a beta provider type if she looking out for her best interest.

True alphas don't worry about such. These chicks for everybody.
 

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You probably failed a couple of $hit test you aren't aware of. Some of them are very subtle. Alpha males usually pass by instinct. While beta males have to learn to see the signs.
 

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You can not pretend with women, you either have traits women find attractive or you don't women can always see though BS. A man with options acts in a certain way, if you try to pretend that you have options to a woman it comes off as insincere game playing.
 

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Lol I always laugh with this alpha male BS. True alpha doesn't exist. No one can live to that standard. Even the most "alpha males" become beta when they fall in love with the right girl.
Its only a hollywood dream. Just try not to be a needy, insecure, boring loser.
Btw if you are making this thread, you are definitely not alpha at all.
 
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The only thing you can do is live your own life and stay on your path...

You live your life according to your beliefs, your "code" if you will......fidelity, honor
integrity......whatever your code or your core beliefs mean to you........

....and you follow your purpose.

Let her redirect her energy towards you. Does that mean she will stay with you forever and ever?
No, not necessarily. She stays, she goes. It's got to be irrelevant. The moment you start redirecting your
life path simply to accommodate her and to facilitate staying with her and preserving the relationship.....is the moment you move off your life path and the moment were you'll potentially lose yourself.

No relationship last forever. It will end one day through rejection or death.

She either has true desire and true interest level or she doesn't. You can be the greatest person on earth and still she loses or has no true desire. Stay on your path.
 

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@Reykhel
that's it. Alpha is not the ability to keep one girl indefinitely. Alpha is the ability to never stray from your way and give a fvck.
 

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being in a relationship definitely renders one beta
 

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Lol I always laugh with this alpha male BS. True alpha doesn't exist. No one can live to that standard. Even the most "alpha males" become beta when they fall in love with the right girl.
Its only a hollywood dream. Just try not to be a needy, insecure, boring loser.
Btw if you are making this thread, you are definitely not alpha at all.
I hate when anyone uses the term "alpha male", so stupid. It's tossed around so much now adays.
 

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An alpha male isn't worried when a girl isn't clinging onto him...
 

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Women should in theory be attracted to a man that that can leave her on the drop of a dime without ever looking back. But In my experience every time a woman gets this vibe from me, or feels that I care less about the relationship than her, she just ends up breaking up with me. I've never once had a woman leave me for being clingy or blowing up her phone too much, or talking to her too much, only for not talking to her enough.

I live my own life, I keep texting to a minimum unless its arranging a date, I give girls their space, but In my experience women these days want you all over them they hate a guy that has his own life. Is a girl losing respect for you sometimes necessary to keep her happy? what am I doing wrong? I am an attractive man with options so I just find it hard to get invested in a female emotionally when I know there is always a new bus coming every twenty minutes.
These women that broke up with you for acting "alpha"... probably were not that into you to begin with. Instead they just liked the attention and validation you gave them. So as soon as you started acting distant, they had little incentive to chase as they knew you were easily replaceable. Also, there's a good chance you're actually not that alpha to begin with and they saw through the act.
 

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No one can be alpha all the time. Unless you are a freaking robot with no feelings or emotions.
You can pretend to be alpha but sooner or later the mask will fall off and then you are done.
Alpha is just an idealization. Unless you are a Monk who really doesnt give a **** and meditate all day in a freaking monastery. The true alpha standard.
 

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All alpha becomes bêta in one way or another.

You can't win in LTR lol but the woman will stay as long you "stay alpha" in the public realm. You make her feel Loved and she loves you and that the "qualities" that got her to you remain unshaken.... Oh and that that cant win argument.

What is nice about this tread are the peopl who mentionned: "pretending" "faking etc.m.

Acting might work in the short term but not the long term. There is a girl for everyone.

Just improve your qualities and improve on your "weakness". Find your balance.
 

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No one can be alpha all the time. Unless you are a freaking robot with no feelings or emotions.
You can pretend to be alpha but sooner or later the mask will fall off and then you are done.
Alpha is just an idealization. Unless you are a Monk who really doesnt give a **** and meditate all day in a freaking monastery. The true alpha standard.
I get what your saying. I can't help but thinking it's often people's different definitions which prevents
true coherent communication. You have to remember that everyone has a different perspective from
which they view the world and thus "reality". These perspectives alter who we perceive everything. Our perceptions are laced with the errors of subjectivity. Then we make our judgements, we condemn, praise, blame or whatever depending on our perceptions.

I'm not a fan of throwing "alpha" and "beta" about as I don't believe they are absolutes. However, they are practical terms in a way to denote behaviors. I would simply view them as behaviors on the opposite end
of a spectrum. But a spectrum which denotes what........

In my opinion, they are behaviors which denote behaviors on a masculinity scale. We are all men here, physically, but you could say certain behaviors are not very "manly" or "masculine", such as supplicating to a woman, such as approval seeking.....

You could say the beta male or "nice guy" (the nice guy which Robert Glover refers to in "No More Mr Nice Guy) puts a woman on a pedestal, he buys her things with a hidden agenda (operating from a hidden script) as he expects to be loved/gets his needs met in return, the beta male appears to be nice but can be passive aggressive when he doesn't get what he expects in return, the beta male is a burden to his woman because he is dependent on her for his happiness, so he'll display jealousy if she's doing things without him....the beta doesn't know how to set boundaries and then fumes when his boundaries are crossed......time and time again I have seen beta male behaviors mistakenly viewed as Alpha..........the beta plays it safe and hasn't got the ability to say the magic word "NO"........By contrast the Alpha depends on no-one for his happiness....his happiness comes from within and from the life he leads......as a result he's not a burden to the women or friends in his life.......this difference in energy alone is huge.......the alpha Knows who to set healthy boundaries and he has no problem saying no if something doesn't suit him.....the alpha is generous.......how? You see a confident man (alpha) has enough confidence and enough energy and a positive charge that he can give that to other people.......that's true security..........If an Alpha buys things there is no hidden agenda, it's not done out of extravagance or to show off.....it's simply when it's no big deal..........an Alpha is assertive where a beta would be passive......orten passive aggressive....

Going to the gym and getting big muscles does not make you an alpha, a common misperception. Going to the gym does aid you greatly in in being more masculine. But if your behaviors don't change......you're probably still behaving beta but with a better body.

The notion that one suddenly is demoted to beta status once he enters a relationship is misguided at best. With that theory it would be logical to conclude that as soon as the relationship ends, you are suddenly back on Alpha status. Laughable and rather silly.

Neither do I concur with the notion that a man who wishes to procreate is suddenly a beta. That's a rather slanted opinion seen as we are here fundamentally for survival and replication. If an assertive man, knowledgable of the ways of the world decides that's what he wants in life and he has demonstrated up to that point all the qualities that one would associate with a masculine alpha male........he is suddenly rendered beta because he procreates....

I would be suspect of any man on a internet forum who throws around the beta label as an absolute. What are the motivations? Is he doing it to raise himself up to Alpha status? Why does he feel the need to do that? It would be different if he pointed out beta behaviors with the intention of aiding another man reach a better, more alpha state of masculinity. The motivations here would be because he has that charge himself.

.....but that's just one perspective.
 

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I get what your saying. I can't help but thinking it's often people's different definitions which prevents
true coherent communication. You have to remember that everyone has a different perspective from
which they view the world and thus "reality". These perspectives alter who we perceive everything. Our perceptions are laced with the errors of subjectivity. Then we make our judgements, we condemn, praise, blame or whatever depending on our perceptions.

I'm not a fan of throwing "alpha" and "beta" about as I don't believe they are absolutes. However, they are practical terms in a way to denote behaviors. I would simply view them as behaviors on the opposite end
of a spectrum. But a spectrum which denotes what........

In my opinion, they are behaviors which denote behaviors on a masculinity scale. We are all men here, physically, but you could say certain behaviors are not very "manly" or "masculine", such as supplicating to a woman, such as approval seeking.....

You could say the beta male or "nice guy" (the nice guy which Robert Glover refers to in "No More Mr Nice Guy) puts a woman on a pedestal, he buys her things with a hidden agenda (operating from a hidden script) as he expects to be loved/gets his needs met in return, the beta male appears to be nice but can be passive aggressive when he doesn't get what he expects in return, the beta male is a burden to his woman because he is dependent on her for his happiness, so he'll display jealousy if she's doing things without him....the beta doesn't know how to set boundaries and then fumes when his boundaries are crossed......time and time again I have seen beta male behaviors mistakenly viewed as Alpha..........the beta plays it safe and hasn't got the ability to say the magic word "NO"........By contrast the Alpha depends on no-one for his happiness....his happiness comes from within and from the life he leads......as a result he's not a burden to the women or friends in his life.......this difference in energy alone is huge.......the alpha Knows who to set healthy boundaries and he has no problem saying no if something doesn't suit him.....the alpha is generous.......how? You see a confident man (alpha) has enough confidence and enough energy and a positive charge that he can give that to other people.......that's true security..........If an Alpha buys things there is no hidden agenda, it's not done out of extravagance or to show off.....it's simply when it's no big deal..........an Alpha is assertive where a beta would be passive......orten passive aggressive....

Going to the gym and getting big muscles does not make you an alpha, a common misperception. Going to the gym does aid you greatly in in being more masculine. But if your behaviors don't change......you're probably still behaving beta but with a better body.

The notion that one suddenly is demoted to beta status once he enters a relationship is misguided at best. With that theory it would be logical to conclude that as soon as the relationship ends, you are suddenly back on Alpha status. Laughable and rather silly.

Neither do I concur with the notion that a man who wishes to procreate is suddenly a beta. That's a rather slanted opinion seen as we are here fundamentally for survival and replication. If an assertive man, knowledgable of the ways of the world decides that's what he wants in life and he has demonstrated up to that point all the qualities that one would associate with a masculine alpha male........he is suddenly rendered beta because he procreates....

I would be suspect of any man on a internet forum who throws around the beta label as an absolute. What are the motivations? Is he doing it to raise himself up to Alpha status? Why does he feel the need to do that? It would be different if he pointed out beta behaviors with the intention of aiding another man reach a better, more alpha state of masculinity. The motivations here would be because he has that charge himself.

.....but that's just one perspective.
But what you said is not alpha. Alpha is freaking superman and if you think deep, he doesnt even qualify. Superman is also beta, he feels, he suffers, he cries... Beta as fvck.

I mean, alpha is unreachable for human beings... even for the man of steel. Alpha is used like a superhuman hability thatno one can maintain on time.
Not even the psychopaths can be alpha, they cant love, cant feel empathy but they get mad, they cry, they can be pvssy af.
Is God alpha? Maybe.

I prefer the words confident, independent, positive.

When someone calls himself alpha, we all know he is beta af. The true alpha doesnt need to do it, he has nothing to prove to Anyone.
 

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@Almax my dear child, Superman is but a fictional character.......much like
this god character you mentioned.

We were talking about men. Flesh and blood men.

Anyway, different perspectives, different beliefs, different paradigms........

Where there is perception there is deception.
 

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@Almax my dear child, Superman is but a fictional character.......much like
this god character you mentioned.

We were talking about men. Flesh and blood men.

Anyway, different perspectives, different beliefs, different paradigms........

Where there is perception there is deception.
Hahaha but isn't superman the portrait of alphaness?

Also Im sure you know by now that the hottest chicks tend to be with jealous, insecure and unstable men... Thats not alpha at all, am I right?

So Maybe alphaness is not a quality women look for in a man... Or maybe couse women are also beta af.
 

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I don't like it so much either but it has become a convenience word that simply connotes a man who has his sh!t together.
hmmm, I feel like the term itself is used under so many different circumstances now a-days so I really have no idea what people mean when they say "alpha male".
 
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