Painful date with a girl in her late 20s looking for a longterm at her terms

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That girl either had absolutely no interest in you(and was just being polite enough to not tell you to **** off) or had some issues (being super cold and taking months to warm up sounds like she just got raped or out of an abusive relationship or something)

Either way you did the right thing, never forget your goal, if your goal is to get laid then why would you waste time with a girl who showed absolutely 0 interest in ever doing that with you?

Personally I'd have left her after the sex talk, feeling rejected, and went to go either find another girl if I didn't care about the rejection, or I'd buy a few more drinks then go home if she managed to somehow get me down or annoyed (can't exactly pick up girls in a bad mood)
 

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You'll not find one thread from me where a girl has ever taken advantage of me... You failed, like it or not. Now don't get upset and take it out on people on the forum.. Learn the game better.. and learn that every girl is not going to bust down for you right away.. just for you to give up, then go online and complain about it and ask advice.

If you never had to pry a girl with a couple dates to get the puss, your game is super young.... or your game is comprised 100% of tinder dates..

I dont even use Tinder..and I cycle through my fwb's.. got a good 6 diff *****es i juggle while I work on 3-4 new ones every month
I've been running that routine and it either worked or the girl told me to slow down while giving me something in return to keep me, I find stupid and idiot for you to justify a girl not holding the hand of a guy she've spending hours and drinking togheter...guess you're the guys that pay money for cuddling sessions with professional given how high in the pedestal you put intimacy.

The breaking point was that one, not even holding hand while sitting in a public place.

Im not complaining online, I filling a field report something a lot ouf users here never do...especially those giving "moral lessons" as if we were on a pink girly forum.

You advice sounds like the one of a fat girl telling hot girls to push guys away cause they are not willing to be exclusive even before the first kiss, newflash for you men and women have sex often even one night stands.

It's bad enough you had to force her to lay back no the sofa with you physically before she decided "wow this guy is a horny creep".

If you have to force a girl to get comfortable with you, time to set the ego aside and man up and accept the fact that you don't know women as well as you thought you did. I know plenty of dudes like you.. Smashed a couple chicks on tinder, and think now every girl is just as easy..
I accept the fact that a woman tought she could run her game on me and get what she wanted while I left, the fact that she was interested is shown first of all in the fact that she followed me in 3 different places while anytime she could have left with any excuse...second thing is that she deleted me from tinder only after few days as a "ego revenge" for me not writing her, you would know this stuff if you were to date women.

You say women never take advantage of you, well considering your mindset you probably believe giving women free meals makes you a don juan, again date women before giving feedbacks to other, people like you is the reason of bratty behaviour from women.





Exactly what I was thinking.



Ok,just a quick question here......

I was just wondering.....HOW LONG WAS IT from the time you two first met and laid eyes on each other,til you got her in this "storage" room where you "bang" chicks? How much time passed by?
If you bother to read you realize I didnt bring her to the storage room, since in the club we were in the sofa area, you guys just read what you like to read.

Do you recall any storage room anywhere with sofas?



Huh. So your idea of testing the waters is to lay down on your back,expecting the chick to lay down with you...

Wow. I thought testing the waters was just going for the kiss,maybe a little advanced kino (boob touching/azz groping).
You got in a sexual position.
Again you got it all wrong, imagine two people sitting in two cinema seats? yeah thats the position I wanted siting close to each other with both our backs on the rest, you find it a sexual position?

About kino, holding her hand is not kino to you? ok I grabbed her hand she moved it away then left it cold fish...I call it taste the water by kino and the best was negative, do you believe the routine was wrong?

Cause thats what I did and worked in the last 10 years to tell interested ones from uninterested ones.



Honestly.....it just seems like you moved too fast. I mean not only did you expect a chick you never met before to have sex with you what...an hour or two after first meeting each other,but in some strange place she's never been before? In a STORAGE room? Seriously?
For the fitth time we were not in the storage room, is that clear? we were in the club sofa area.

That storage room really impressed you guys? You cant believe how girls easily do stuff there anywya, stop believing you disney fantasy world.




I guess....personally I don't believe her. Not about wanting a relationship,but bout the whole "needing months" for things to get physical. I think she said it to MAKE YOU get not interested so she could leave.

I think she would have said anything to get out of that uncomfortable situation.
Again if you didnt stop reading about the storage room only you would have get that:

1)she agreed to move to different places, she never avoid eye contact and she kept talking, clearly not stuff uninterested girls do

2)She didnt tell me to leave her alone EVEN WHEN I ASKED HER DIRECTLY, I Asked her if she was uncomofrtable and wanted me to leave and she told me to stay...

3)Once we separated instead of running away she was there waiting for me to talk about date 2 while I simply told her it was nice to meet her, she then waited days to delete me from tinder only when she was sure of a no message, clear?



That girl either had absolutely no interest in you(and was just being polite enough to not tell you to **** off) or had some issues (being super cold and taking months to warm up sounds like she just got raped or out of an abusive relationship or something)

Either way you did the right thing, never forget your goal, if your goal is to get laid then why would you waste time with a girl who showed absolutely 0 interest in ever doing that with you?

Personally I'd have left her after the sex talk, feeling rejected, and went to go either find another girl if I didn't care about the rejection, or I'd buy a few more drinks then go home if she managed to somehow get me down or annoyed (can't exactly pick up girls in a bad mood)
She clearly had intimacy issues especially after that guy bought her an engaging ring, promised stuff then disappeared.

Wouldnt be surprised if he was some kind of afc like those bashing me here, playing the good guy making promises of marriage then going ape when finding out that after months she wasnt putting out even with a ring.

If she tought I was gonna pay for someone else fault she was wrong, and surely not gotta let her play with me as my here suggest for a "don juan".
 

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guys just a heads up, the girl in question was using tinder to hook up with some guy, that by default hinder any LTR path, that is just to find popel and have fun, not more and not less, serious on the part she said her last BF gave her the ring, I sure was thinking people tell me you give her the finger then u.u, you really want to share what you was with your last bf to what you guys even said stranger?

she had issues, and i'm sure the op and me if I was in his shoes care.

and a sidenote the confidence persistence is when you can consider the a girl have some quality, but also remember SHE IS NOT YOUR ONLY PLATE, you can play her for the long game because you are busy with others, and till you get a LTR you are free to play.

what will be the next here? you guys will defend a girl when she call the dude for not wanting anything serious and she tell him if he don't want anything serious and there is another guy who want?
 

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@Igetit!

Bro, I know you're completely baffled at some of the responses you got here. I mean, I am. When going through the thread I kept checking my browser to make sure I wasn't on Loveshack or something.

You absolutely did the right thing and your analysis was probably right. A little intimacy issues left over from getting left that's all. Not even holding your hand? Pftt, fùck that. Why I commend you is that you met up with a chick with no pictures online. I can think of 100,000 ways that can be bad for you. I wouldn't do that again in the future. (Imagine linking up with a tranny)

As for the guys complaining about him not taking it slow... lmao

Sometimes I think not getting laid & getting fūcking over by women is punishment for all those who could be so stupid.
 

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I agree. There are very clever and sexy women that will try and see how much value they can derive from a man whilst giving none. I always remember the basic rule:

Men provide attention; women provide sex.

Any women that tries to play power games with me over intimacy gets back-burnered or dumped. Any strong man with options just doesn't tolerate that. Often, women can sense this and won't try it on. The woman in this thread just sounds like a head-case.

I think this is a rare case where the OP's game is just fine. He merely filtered out a timewaster. This happens when you play a heavy R-selection game.
Totally agree with that, especially in the currency exhange where men pay with attention and women pay with sex.

Just like its a stupid idea for a woman to give sex to a guy not giving a fvck about her, at the same time is stupid for a man to follow and chase a woman which doesnt even hold his hand like in this case.

If you wonder why girls believe such behavirous are not only convenient but also agreeable just read guys here calling me a failed playa just for not falling in this trap, if in a board about game like this one you have guys preeching afc teachings and shaming those who dont follow them while putting women on a pedestal, imagine the kind of suggestion guys in the mainstream world may get.

Any man here sooner or later gets the fact that he has to provide something is order to succeed either though high value built in himself or through the right behaviour, the average girl thanks to raging afcs thinks that all she has to do is demand, then ofc the assh0le its me for not playing at their condition...
 

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Youre not a don juan sorry to break it to ya. Step your game up. Youre talking way too much now..

Your replies are ridiculous too. Just accept reality and stop acting like a teenager
 

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Yeah yeah we got it motive "progress", we have to respect women otherwise we are a failure, we have to do what they say otherwise we're no don juan and so on (as if someone gives a fvck about a label).

My suggestion for you is avoid preeching this crap here, go to loveshack or cuckold sites and they will all agree with you that "she knows best", in the mean time get your testosterone checked, if you mom would have done it in your teens you wouldnt be waiting for your testicles to drop till now.

Of course keep avoid trying to have sex, its such a huge disrespect toward women that we cant tolerate it.
 

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Guys, he was looking for some pump&dump... she wanted to play relationship... they disagreed and left! What's new?
 
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Guys, he was looking for some pump&dump... she wanted to play relationship... they disagreed and left! What's new?
Didnt seem like that at all. Seemed like dude jus didnt know how to get her wet begore she realized hes too eager for the puss. She realized hes a horny goat and gave him the cold shoulder

Evident by him calling it a painful date, let alone making a thread about it.. instead of shrugging it off

I think people just dont understand what a Don juan really is... OP is not one by any means. He hasnt realized that.. Thats the only issue.
 

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Didnt seem like that at all. Seemed like dude jus didnt know how to get her wet begore she realized hes too eager for the puss. She realized hes a horny goat and gave him the cold shoulder

Evident by him calling it a painful date, let alone making a thread about it.. instead of shrugging it off

I think people just dont understand what a Don juan really is... OP is not one by any means. He hasnt realized that.. Thats the only issue.
@Huffman

I think this is the new.....
 

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Didnt seem like that at all. Seemed like dude jus didnt know how to get her wet begore she realized hes too eager for the puss. She realized hes a horny goat and gave him the cold shoulder

Evident by him calling it a painful date, let alone making a thread about it.. instead of shrugging it off

I think people just dont understand what a Don juan really is... OP is not one by any means. He hasnt realized that.. Thats the only issue.
Do you realize that all the suggestions and critiques you're giving here are exactly the ones a feminist chic would be giving?

You basically say "respect women" no matter what and then shame whoever try to push his frame instead of accepting the one given.

Where did you learn such things, in cuckold today or some afc bootcamp? did they also teach you how to poor cold water on your d1ck when you're horny but she wants to go shopping and talk instead?

Flowers and expensive dates come in the first lesson or its "advances stuff" in the arsenal of a don juan?

Why you feel the need to come in a board of guys either looking for sex or self improvement and give wrong suggestions?

"she knows best", "respect her"...

All we got from your are wrong suggestions and shaming.
 

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OP not every guy understands the concept of cutting their losses, plenty of guys will never stop trying even when it's hopeless, and that's evidently what's being suggested to you here.
 

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OP did absolutely fine,

The haters are forgetting one small but important thing......he met her on Tinder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He took a girl who had no pics of herself on her profile, on a date to a few places and tried to see if he can slam her in a closet... so whats the problem??

Its called efficiency, and its nothing to be ashamed of.

I for one praise OP for his ballsiness to be seen in public with a girl he doesnt know how she looks, she could've been a 300 pd whale.

Op has a game and he runs it with randoms for a quick result in one date, I did the same thing too, but my date was my cars backseat after a scenic drive.

Don't hate, appreciate.
 

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...that's when I would of aborted mission, fvck that sh!t.
I asked her "if she wanted me to leave her alone, its not that she told me, in that case I would have dropped really fast since it was the point of the question, to be justified to leave.

Considering we were in a place I usually attend I didnt have the chance to drop her, she could have thrown a tantrum.
 

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I asked her "if she wanted me to leave her alone, its not that she told me, in that case I would have dropped really fast since it was the point of the question, to be justified to leave.

Considering we were in a place I usually attend I didnt have the chance to drop her, she could have thrown a tantrum.
Man I wouldn't sweat it. Keep doing what your doing.

Most guys on this forum complain and whinge in forums when broads on Tinder don't call or go cold.

You try bang one in a closet and everyone loses there sh!t.

Bunch of bvtches.
 
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