Zoo for first date?

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I give them a karate lesson or take them shooting. If they don't love both of those things, she aint for me, at all. We 'd always just be fighting about how much time I spend doing those things. Playa ladies, and ONS are just an invitation to disease or trouble of one sort or another. You can have them.
 

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You guys are all IDIOTS. How have you not realized THE PERFECT DATE SPOT?

We all browse SS in our free time...therefore the perfect date is to invite a girl to the library and browse SS together!!! ESPECIALLY if you have lots of green dots, it says a lot to her about you as a man. The sheer passion with which you contribute posts to this forum will get her wet.
 

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sageproduct said:
We all browse SS in our free time...therefore the perfect date is to invite a girl to the library and browse SS together!!! ESPECIALLY if you have lots of green dots, it says a lot to her about you as a man. The sheer passion with which you contribute posts to this forum will get her wet.

Hahaha...that would be pretty funny actually just to gauge their reactions.
 

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The zoo would be good as a second date. What if you're not feeling it and you get stuck having to hang out with her all afternoon? Talk about a boring afternoon with someone you don't want to be with. The purpose of a first date is to see if you like the person or not. Spending 3 or 4 hours with someone who you barely know and who could be lame would make for a sh!tty afternoon.
 

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1. that's why we keep saying, do something you want to do. if it's the zoo **** it if you like zoo's take her ass to the zoo. if you are doing something that YOU like doing you are guaranteed to have a good time regardless ifs he is a ****ty date or not.

I am a horse racing nut everyone knows that. i've taken a few girls to the track as a first date. about half of them didn't work out give or take,. you think i honestly gave a **** if she had her lip stuck out? **** no i'm making money (or trying to) she can STFU if she doesn't' want to at least attempt to have a good time she's not going to ruin my day. and if she is grown, if she is having that ****ty of a time she can call a cab. i've done that before too.

that tells me after only spending maybe 8 bucks on her that you know what, her and i aren't going to work beucase even girls i'm dating casually, as much as i'm at the track and follow racing have to accept that part of my life.

2. everyone keeps saying "yeah the idea of the first date is to see if you like them or not" then at the same time turn around and suggests coffee/drinks/dinner first dates.

you know what, even that's bull****. the idea of a first date isn't to get to know a girl it's to get to know if she likes you or not. it doesn't matter if you know or what you know about her if she doesn't find you attractive or interesting and sees you as a way to get out the house on a Tuesday afternoon.

It's why the ANTI-DUMP machine is set up to screen for INTEREST not COMPATIBILITY

it doesn't matter how compatible you are if the chick doesn't like you.

and since we are screening for INTEREST the goal is to fiond out if she's truely interested as quickly as possible.

for the newer guys here i would strongly recommend that you sit down open up the DJ bible and read the ANTI dump machine section cover to cover then read it again. best part of this site.


ps- i've never spent 3 houers in a zoo. i taket hat back i do have a son now if i'm with him, yeah maybe he's slow and i have to show him everything but by myself, 1 hour, 90 mins max.
 

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backbreaker said:
yeah i got flaked on quite a bit on first dates
And I can see why LOL :crackup:

Chill out dude!!

What are you trying to prove here with your zoo rant? It looks like you are trying to make this thread all about you. Aren't you? This is the OP's date, not yours. Some of us don't feel that the zoo is a good first date. So in your eyes we are all wrong because we don't subscribe to your theory. You are trying too hard to sound right at any cost. So you have a little rant like a chick throwing a temper tantrum.

Remember that your goal in dating is to bang as many chicks as possible, while spending the least amount of time, effort, and money on them.

This is why going to a zoo is very time consuming and costly, it also won't help you increase your odds of getting laid, if that was not the chick's plan in the first place. You can screen for interest anywhere and still get the same results. The location of the date doesn't matter, what matters is when she will be dropping her panties for you. Trying to be funny at the Tiger cage won't turn her on if you are boring the hell out of her. You could be doing that at Starbucks and still get the same results.

The purpose of the first date is to see if you like the chick or not. Why would you spend quality time and money on a chick that you may not like? That is a waste of your time and money. Your time should be valuable. Spend quality time with friends and women that deserve it. You also pay attention on the first date to see if the chick actually likes you. If she doesn't, then you blew your cash on a wasted action date. That is why you go on action dates after you find out if she likes you.

Why reward a chick that you barely even know? That is ridiculous!! Never take a chick on a first date to a place of value. Take a chick who will really appreciate it rather than some skank who may never put out and who you may never see again. No matter how much you try to impress (or appear to impress) a date, she will only put out if that was her plan in the first place. No amount of zoo tickets, ice cream, or peanuts you spend at the zoo on her will change her game plan. Also, the more you appear to impress on a first date, the higher you are setting the bar for the future. She will then expect you to take her out to cool places in the future. Your goal is to get as much as you can out of her, while giving her as little as possible. Going to the zoo is giving too much.

I've been on dates with chicks who were super boring but they liked me. Why would I spend my valuable time dragging some dumbass around a zoo who I wasn't having any fun with? That chick would drag me down the entire time. I would take someone that I previously screened that was compatible with me. A girl that I know I like and a girl that I know likes me. And an action date requires both parties having fun or there isn't much action. That is why these types of dates are a waste of time and money. You spend the least amount of time and money to get the results you need, then you go from there.

If you think that going to the zoo is a perfect first date then knock yourself out. But don't go knocking the rest of us who prefer a simple cheap date to get the same exact results. Spending extra money on tickets and food for her won't increase your odds of getting laid. That should be your goal and keeping the interest level high. So if a zoo date works for you then go ahead and go.


backbreaker said:
remember you aer trying to screen for interest.
And you can screen for interest by sitting on a freaking park bench. The location and venue doesn't matter. Just because you are at a zoo, that won't make the chick be more interested in you. It is all about YOU, not where you are at!!

backbreaker said:
it's exactly why i vaule my free time why i would take a girl to the zoo. i don't have time to do **** i do in my free time. i have to consolidate the **** i like to do with my dating.
Over 9,000 posts on here and time consuming first dates at the zoo. Seems like you have a lot of free time to burn. :yes:


backbreaker said:
i like zoos. I've said that in my first post. the zoo is something i would do if i had 1-2 hours alone. so i take a girl with me.

So I was right. This IS all about you because you think a zoo is a great place for a first date. And you get angry with people who say it is not. You had your rant and you try to prove yourself to be right at any cost.


backbreaker said:
what i don't do with my free time, the few hours a week i can call free time, is sit in a ****ing coffee shop listening to fake jazz music drinking ****ty coffee

No, but you want to waste your day with a chick at the zoo that may never put out for you!! LOL


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ps- i've never spent 3 houers in a zoo. i taket hat back i do have a son now if i'm with him, yeah maybe he's slow and i have to show him everything but by myself, 1 hour, 90 mins max.
You are making this about YOU again. This is NOT your date we are talking about here. This is the OP's date.

So do you speed walk from cage to cage? LOL. Dude, you have to drive to the zoo, stand in line for tickets (depending how on crowded it is), walk the whole zoo with all the crowded people (some zoos are big you know) , then drive back home. That eats up all your day with a girl you don't even know that well. More than 90 minutes max. You are giving too much to a chick who may not be worth it!!
 

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backbreaker said:
go eat a scope of ice cream with me
a scope? You mean a scoop. What are you like 5 years old? Don't forget your balloon, cotton candy, and the little hat with the propeller. :up:

backbreaker said:
n taking a girl to the zoo on the first date is EXACTLY how you screen
LOL. So standing with her at the snake exhibit will make you realize that she doesn't want to fvck you? You can find the same thing out at Starbucks dude. Less time and a lot less money to get the same results. No bang for your buck. You don't need to treat a girl by taking her to the zoo for effective screening. You can screen for interest anywhere. The only thing you need to be screening for is when she will be hopping in the sack with you. And you don't need a day trip to the zoo to find that out. :yes:


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does she have a sense of humor? does she laugh at your gorilla jokes? does she take herself way too seriously? is she a ****? is she afraid to touch anything in the petting zoo? is she a know it all because she thinks she knows everything about every animal in the zoo? is she lazy beucase she doesn't want to walk around the entire zoo? does she let you play touhy feely when you go inside the little dark snake exibihit? this is perfect screening. not sitting in a ****ing resturant talking about how super awesome her bull**** ass job is.
LOL. This is what I'm talking about here. A complete waste of time!! I could give a rat's ass if she is afraid to touch anything at the petting zoo. What does that accomplish? Nothing!! The only thing I care about is her petting my d!ck later that night. And so should you. So what if she talks about her bvllsh!t job or the Scientific Name of the Great Horned Owl? I want to fvck this chick and I don't care what she would be doing at the zoo. So what if she is a know it all or acts b!tchy? As long as she is bending over for me later that night, then I am in business. I got what I wanted, my goal was accomplished, I don't even have to see her again. Why aren't you thinking this way? I would only take someone that I actually like to a zoo. Not some b!tchy broad that I only want to pump and dump. That is why these dates are a waste of time until you know the person well enough. :yes:

backbreaker said:
1. that's why we keep saying, do something you want to do. if it's the zoo **** it if you like zoo's take her ass to the zoo. if you are doing something that YOU like doing you are guaranteed to have a good time regardless ifs he is a ****ty date or not.

You mean "she" not he. No, you don't do something that you want to do!! I like going out to eat at nice restaurants, going to concerts, going to sporting events, etc. and I won't be taking a chick whom I don't know to any of these places. Would you? You don't take women on first dates to places of value!! Your goal is to get laid by chicks who have interest. Not taking them on day trips or expensive dates that will never get you anything out of it!! Be smart and quit trying to impress these chicks by giving them more. Because they will never give you anything more than what they planned to!! You are just wasting your time, money, and energy on women of no use!! :yes:

So would you have a good time at the zoo backbreaker with a chick that you could see that was not into you? Would you still be making your animal jokes? Or would you feel bummed out and stupid for going there when you could've bought her a drink and find out the same thing? You won't have a good time unless the other person is having a good time. You would be better going off by yourself instead. Your advice is wack in which I don't take seriously.


backbreaker said:
I am a horse racing nut everyone knows that. i've taken a few girls to the track as a first date. about half of them didn't work out give or take,. you think i honestly gave a **** if she had her lip stuck out? **** no i'm making money (or trying to) she can STFU if she doesn't' want to at least attempt to have a good time she's not going to ruin my day. and if she is grown, if she is having that ****ty of a time she can call a cab. i've done that before too.
You are? I had no idea that you were. Going to the track is a lot different than going to the zoo. You can get involved in watching the horses and making money. You can totally block her ass out if you're not feeling it. At the zoo you have some dumbass tagging along with you trying to keep up as you walk to the next cage. See what I'm talking about here? That would be no fun dude!! :yes:

backbreaker said:
that tells me after only spending maybe 8 bucks on her that you know what, her and i aren't going to work beucase even girls i'm dating casually, as much as i'm at the track and follow racing have to accept that part of my life.

Your zoo logic doesn't apply with your race track example. You wouldn't be going to zoo all the time and that wouldn't be a part of your life. The zoo costs way more than 8 bucks, just saying.


backbreaker said:
2. everyone keeps saying "yeah the idea of the first date is to see if you like them or not" then at the same time turn around and suggests coffee/drinks/dinner first dates.
This sh!t is so wack!! LOL....:crackup: Well I'm not going to drop $40-50 bucks on zoo tickets + food + extra gas + my valuable time on a chick who might not be worth it. I can buy her a coffee or a couple of drinks saving my money to find out the same damn thing. So you're damn right I want to see if I like her or not!!

Answer this for me....Do you want to waste your time and hard earned money on a broad who you might not like or who may never put out?

backbreaker said:
you know what, even that's bull****. the idea of a first date isn't to get to know a girl it's to get to know if she likes you or not. it doesn't matter if you know or what you know about her if she doesn't find you attractive or interesting and sees you as a way to get out the house on a Tuesday afternoon.

This is so wack!! Do you even know what you're ranting about? "A first date isn't to get to know a girl" you say? So how am I supposed to take you seriously when you don't know what you are even talking about? Then you give out advice as if you are an expert LOL. :crackup:

I would want to know if this chick was boring as hell or maybe even a complete nut job. Wouldn't you? I would also want to see if she was worth my time after she showed her interest. So that after we had sex I might ask her to go out on another date if I wanted to.

Then why the fvck would you take her to the zoo or any other cool place if she doesn't find you attractive? This is what I'm talking about here....That is why your date is a waste of time and money if she doesn't like you. You can find out the same damn thing on a cheap date. Then escalate to an action date later if you want to. After you know more about this chick..... AND....when you know that she likes you...Can you understand that?

Ok, let me get this straight....So she doesn't find you attractive or interesting, but she only wants to get out of the house on a Tuesday afternoon. So much for your screening at the petting zoo. Yeah dude, sounds like you're guaranteed to have a great time on this date!! LMAO

So.....All these guys take these chicks to all these cool places because they try to impress them. They think that will increase their odds of getting laid...LOL... Then they wonder why they never got laid....It's because she was never interested in them. ....The impressive date didn't matter!! That was never her plan from the get go!!.

backbreaker said:
It's why the ANTI-DUMP machine is set up to screen for INTEREST not COMPATIBILITY
It's not that hard to screen for interest dude. That should be rather obvious!! And you don't even need to be compatible with a chick if your only goal is just to bang her. You look for compatibility for the women you actually want to date, not the skanks and boring broads you just want to pump and dump. You look for that on the first date, but obviously you don't!!

backbreaker said:
it doesn't matter how compatible you are if the chick doesn't like you.
You are finally right about something!! :cheer:

Then why drop money on her at the zoo?


backbreaker said:
and since we are screening for INTEREST the goal is to fiond out if she's truely interested as quickly as possible.
Yes, that is twice that you are correct!! :cheer: :cheer:

You can screen if she is "truly" interested even at a coffee shop. But you don't think that is a good place to go. Why waste time at a zoo if your screening process detects no interest on her part? You won't be having a good time because your date isn't digging you...Then you will feel like a fool.

backbreaker said:
for the newer guys here i would strongly recommend that you sit down open up the DJ bible and read the ANTI dump machine section cover to cover then read it again. best part of this site.

And I strongly recommend that you shouldn't be knocking other guys who have a different point of view about this subject. Because you are mostly wrong here and really don't know what you're typing about with your first date zoo rant. Your advice is wack!!

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backbreaker said:
n taking a girl to the zoo on the first date is EXACTLY how you screen

what you think taking a broad to a coffee shop that she's been to 10 times in the last 6 months going through the same bull**** ass first date conversation is screening. what the **** can you possibly find out about a braod that she doesnt' want you to find out about, including if she does really like you or not, at a coffee shop

how is taking a girl to the zoo not screening. first of all if she comes she obviously likes you enough to try something different. that's screening. is she funny, does she have a sense of humor? does she laugh at your gorilla jokes? does she take herself way too seriously? is she a ****? is she afraid to touch anything in the petting zoo? is she a know it all because she thinks she knows everything about every animal in the zoo? is she lazy beucase she doesn't want to walk around the entire zoo? does she let you play touhy feely when you go inside the little dark snake exibihit? this is perfect screening. not sitting in a ****ing resturant talking about how super awesome her bull**** ass job is.

you SCREEN by putting people in positions that they are unfamiliar with or not usually are in on a daily / often basis. You aren't going to find out **** about someone worth a damn in a controlled environment.

i can find out more about a girl in 20 mintues walking around in a zoo than i can in 3 dates at a coffee shop or a resturant easily.

sure i get your point. but you don't want to spend time wasting it at the zoo with a girl you don't like.

i go shoot pool. because:

A) i shoot a game like nobodies ever seen.
b) it's cheap
c) she will be over it in 3 games. so you can bounce to another venue. plus by then, i will know if i like the girl or not.

if i like her enough, THEN i will go to the zoo. i mean... the zoo really needs a full day to enjoy it.

i do go to the coffee shop sometimes. but after that i take the girl record shopping. if you think a girl has been record shopping then i would like to meet her.
 

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sure i get your point. but you don't want to spend time wasting it at the zoo with a girl you don't like.

i go shoot pool. because:

A) i shoot a game like nobodies ever seen.

Shooting a mean game of "pocket pool" doesn't count Packers.
 

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Packers2010 said:
i do go to the coffee shop sometimes. but after that i take the girl record shopping. if you think a girl has been record shopping then i would like to meet her.
Packers2010 said:
but after that i take the girl record shopping.
Vinyl records? Dude, women go shopping with their girlfriends. Not with guys that are trying to fvck them. I mean that is worse than going to the zoo. I don't get why these guys feel the need to take these chicks to all these places. You record shop on your own, not with dates. You should be spending the least amount of time you can with them before you secure a possible lay. No need to be going all over the place with women. That won't change a thing!!
 

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Vinyl records? Dude, women go shopping with their girlfriends. Not with guys that are trying to fvck them. I mean that is worse than going to the zoo. I don't get why these guys feel the need to take these chicks to all these places. You record shop on your own, not with dates. You should be spending the least amount of time you can with them before you secure a possible lay. No need to be going all over the place with women. That won't change a thing!!
i don't take them shopping because they like shopping. i take them shopping for vinyl because I like shopping for vinyl and it's something I'm into

see.. the zoo requires time. shopping can be over in a matter of seconds.
 

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Packers2010 said:
i don't take them shopping because they like shopping. i take them shopping for vinyl because I like shopping for vinyl and it's something I'm into

Who cares!!! This isn't the point I am making here. So what if you like to do something? Just because you like to do something that doesn't mean you drag your first date along with you. Going shopping for records isn't going to make her like you any more that what she thought of you during coffee.

Do you think she is suddenly going to get turned on when you pull out a mint copy of Michael Jackson's Thriller from the rack? She isn't going to say "Hey Packers, Let's "Beat It" and go over to my place and fvck."

This is a waste of time.....this is something you do by yourself or something with a person you already know.

All these guys have this idea that ..."I like doing this, so I'm going to pretend to be Alpha and take this chick with me wherever I want. She will think I'm so cool that I will get laid."

Taking her where YOU want to go has no effect whatsoever if her plan was never to put out for you in the first place. You are wasting your time.


Packers2010 said:
see.. the zoo requires time. shopping can be over in a matter of seconds.
So you walk inside the shop and just leave? Dude, if there are a lot of records that you like, you want to browse and look through them. Check to see if they are in good condition or not. You can spend a lot of time in there looking.

Shopping for records isn't going to increase a girl's attraction for you, if it isn't there from the start.

That is the point I'm making here....the same thing goes for the zoo or any other excursions you may want to go on.
 

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Who cares!!! This isn't the point I am making here. So what if you like to do something? Just because you like to do something that doesn't mean you drag your first date along with you. Going shopping for records isn't going to make her like you any more that what she thought of you during coffee.

you have already lost if you are " trying to get her to like you" I'm doing what i want. therefore i will win. Why:

because the girl doesn't give a ****. YOU have to lead. and by lead i mean CHOOSE ****ING EVERYTHING!

so i choose to go record shopping. not do some dumb **** to impress her.


Do you think she is suddenly going to get turned on when you pull out a mint copy of Michael Jackson's Thriller from the rack? She isn't going to say "Hey Packers, Let's "Beat It" and go over to my place and fvck."

you are an ignorant ****. but i would like thriller in my collection. would be pretty cool.

This is a waste of time.....this is something you do by yourself or something with a person you already know.

All these guys have this idea that ..."I like doing this, so I'm going to pretend to be Alpha and take this chick with me wherever I want. She will think I'm so cool that I will get laid."

Taking her where YOU want to go has no effect whatsoever if her plan was never to put out for you in the first place. You are wasting your time.

there is not " plan" the plan is. if i go somewhere I like. I am going to have fun. period.
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Packers2010 said:
you have already lost if you are " trying to get her to like you" I'm doing what i want. therefore i will win.
Dude, do you even understand anything? :crackup:

How are you winning by taking a chick record shopping that doesn't like you? So what if you're doing what YOU want. If she doesn't want to date or fvck you, going record shopping (where you want) will not change her mind about you. That's why it is a waste of time going to these places. Do you understand that now?

Packers2010 said:
[Why:

because the girl doesn't give a ****. YOU have to lead. and by lead i mean CHOOSE ****ING EVERYTHING!

so i choose to go record shopping. not do some dumb **** to impress her..
LMAO :crackup: That still won't change her mind about you, just like going to the zoo or record shopping.

You can take the lead all you want, if the chick has no plan of banging you, then you leading didn't matter at all.

Packers2010 said:
[there is not " plan" the plan is. if i go somewhere I like. I am going to have fun. period.
No plan eh? Sorry to burst your bubble here Packers, but if the chick has no plans of having sex with you, then you won't be getting laid. Your trip to the record shop won't make her want to have sex with you, just because you lead her to the record shop LOL. :crackup:

So if the chick is bored off her ass while you're thumbing through records, telling you she wants to leave, are you still going to have fun? LOL :crackup:

Just because you think you are leading and doing what you want to do, won't make one damn bit of difference if the chick doesn't have any plans of sleeping with you.

This is the point that I'm trying to drive home here.

All these guys fail to understand that....crazy.
 

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Do what you want on your date. How much money you spend is up to you.

I would avoid the zoo, personally, because they tend to smell like sh1t. Women have a more acute sense of smell so why create potential problems for yourself?
 
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