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YouTube Video: 13 Things Women SECRETLY Want Men To Do (But Never Say)

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Is this another fish trying to teach men how to catch fish?


It's a 19 minute long video, so I don't expect many to watch its entirety. Here are the 13 things....

1) Say "Don't worry, I got this" about any issue
2) Open doors for her
3) Offer to fix stuff
4) Cook for her
5) "Good" compliments on stuff she has control over
6) Offering a jacket to her when she's cold
7) Kiss her forehead
8) Unexpected gifts
9) Saying "I love you" first
10) More foreplay
11) Dressing/grooming properly
12) Saying "no" occasionally, assert confidence
13) Flirt more

Like most advice things from women, there are a few things in here that are meaningful but most are "nice-to-haves" that won't make that much of a difference in terms of initial seduction. Some might help for retention after initial seduction. Additionally, most men, even beta males who aren't using SoSuave, do some portion of these things.
 

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I do 12 all the time lol
 

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12) Saying "no" occasionally, assert confidence
I do 12 all the time lol
Asserting confidence and having boundaries can help with both initial attraction and retaining women.

In the early stages, a lot of times having boundaries and saying no means walking away from a woman after 1 date. It might be more useful in recognizing bad situations and avoiding them rather than bringing in more women.
 

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These points are individual values and depend on the girl. To figure out her values, it takes emotional intelligence & social skills to pick up on. Unfortunately, guys tend to lack these skills and resort to black or white logical reasoning.
 

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It's a solid list. I'd say all women would appreciate the majority of things listed. There needs to be one more.....Fuhk me really hard and rough from time to time. I want to be your bedroom slut.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Is this another fish trying to teach men how to catch fish?


It's a 19 minute long video, so I don't expect many to watch its entirety. Here are the 13 things....

1) Say "Don't worry, I got this" about any issue
2) Open doors for her
3) Offer to fix stuff
4) Cook for her
5) "Good" compliments on stuff she has control over
6) Offering a jacket to her when she's cold
7) Kiss her forehead
8) Unexpected gifts
9) Saying "I love you" first
10) More foreplay
11) Dressing/grooming properly
12) Saying "no" occasionally, assert confidence
13) Flirt more

Like most advice things from women, there are a few things in here that are meaningful but most are "nice-to-haves" that won't make that much of a difference in terms of initial seduction. Some might help for retention after initial seduction. Additionally, most men, even beta males who aren't using SoSuave, do some portion of these things.
Except for 10 and 13, that is how I treat my mother.
 

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1) Say "Don't worry, I got this" about any issue
(display of confidence and control) :up:

2) Open doors for her
(if she is behaving good and respectful) :up:

3) Offer to fix stuff
(see 1 and 2) :up:

4) Cook for her
(uhm not sure about this one unless you smashed already or she behaved really good)

5) "Good" compliments on stuff she has control over
(agree especially if it's stuff about her behaviour and self control) :up:

6) Offering a jacket to her when she's cold
(see nr 2)

7) Kiss her forehead
(no opinion)

8) Unexpected gifts
(see nr 2 and nr 4)

9) Saying "I love you" first
(totally disagree) :down:

10) More foreplay
(agree) :up:

11) Dressing/grooming properly
(totally agree) :up:

12) Saying "no" occasionally, assert confidence
(totally agree) :up:

13) Flirt more
(depends on how much you've being doing laredy)
My opinion point by point.
 

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Too bad feminism and the first world ruined most of that.
 

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The problems with this is that, it only matters when and if a Chad does it for the woman.

If you're not her type, it doesn't matter if you do 10 or 100 things, she would not give you 5 minutes to text you back, let alone fvck you.
 

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OK with 6, 8, 11.

The rest is garbage.
 

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Ahhh another week of “water is wet” revelations…

There is nothing new under the sun.
 

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As others have said, not a bad idea to do these occasionally for the sake of intermittent reinforcement.

But as an aside, off-white women are on average significantly more difficult than 100% white women. They're often downright awful. Mediterranean, MIddle Eastern, Jewish, or Mixed-Race as the author (Marni Kinrys) is. Marni is a hebrew name fwiw. And she hails from phucking Toronto. So yes, she's very much a grifter.

One look at that face gavc me a visceral reaction that was unpleasant. I had to go take a shower.

$10 bucks says this woman has hair on her back.
 
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This list would be great for any beta male AFC cuck who wants to watch a Chad steal "his" girl.

Seriously, why are women allowed to speak?
 

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2) Open doors for her
Nope. The jerk kind of guy is the 1 who believes women can open their own doors.

However, if the context is to relationships or marriage, then of course, he can.
 

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Like most advice things from women, there are a few things in here that are meaningful but most are "nice-to-haves" that won't make that much of a difference in terms of initial seduction. Some might help for retention after initial seduction. Additionally, most men, even beta males who aren't using SoSuave, do some portion of these things.
This was my general take, I'll go a little more specific now.

1) Say "Don't worry, I got this" about any issue

12) Saying "no" occasionally, assert confidence
These two are essentially the same and relate to confidence. Confidence is good and can help with initial attraction. Maintaining confidence can help retain. This is secondary to looks though. If you're not at a certain looks level that an individual woman finds you attractive, this won't matter.

2) Open doors for her
Mostly irrelevant for both initial attraction and retention. If a man wants to do that, it's ok but it doesn't impact things.

3) Offer to fix stuff
This can be good for retaining a woman once you've initially attracted her. This likely won't make much of a difference initially.

4) Cook for her
I'd call this a good one and can work as a good 2nd, 3rd, or 4th date to create the first instance of sex. This is useful in retention if you want a longer term relationship. In longer term relationships, it's better to pick women who have some cooking skills as well. You don't want to be the only chef.

5) "Good" compliments on stuff she has control over

13) Flirt more
This is useful in the early stages when trying to initially attract and seduce. Overall, #5 is of lesser importance compared to actual flirting #13.

6) Offering a jacket to her when she's cold
This is sort of fluff. An adult woman needs to be able to read weather reports (they're on the smartphone she uses all the time) and anticipate how to dress for the temperature. This may or may not ever be relevant dependent on the local climate. It might be nice to do when it happens, but this is a wasted recommendation in general.

7) Kiss her forehead
Irrelevant

8) Unexpected gifts
Can be useful in an extended relationship at times. In extended relationships, there are also times where women will automatically get gifts (Valentine's Day, her birthday, Christmas, an anniversary). This doesn't make a difference with initial attraction. This is one of the least valuable items on the list.

9) Saying "I love you" first
Not recommended. This is beta.

10) More foreplay
This is useful. If a man is good at sex, a lot of the rest of this list becomes irrelevant. Being good looking and good at sex is what this whole list needs to be. There needs to be some level of foreplay.

11) Dressing/grooming properly
This can help with initial attraction, so it's good. In an extended relationships, it is best not to turn into slob or grow complacent, so this is a decent one.

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This list would be great for any beta male AFC cuck who wants to watch a Chad steal "his" girl.

Seriously, why are women allowed to speak?
There are a few good items mostly tied in with some more beta behaviors. Being good looking and good at sex is all that's really necessary. When you're good looking and good at sex, you'll exude confidence.
 
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Imagine a new guy starting to date and follows these advices? All the heartbreak he will have. Thia is the best way to become the gay male friend. I did all of that when I was starting, but they always fvcked the "bad boy", cliche

Things that make you attractive to women are the things not necessary make you a "good" person.
You make a good point and I can identify with it.

A good portion of that advice is blue pill, Average Frustrated Chump, beta male nonsense.

Being good looking and being good at sex is what you really need in order to be successful.

I think there are a lot of men who have a very difficult rolling back all of the blue pill, beta male programming that they get from well meaning parent and grandparent types. For men of my generation (Millennials), we listened to Boomer parents and GI Generation grandparents about treating women. Things that might have worked in courting for GI's generation people in the 1940s, Silents in the 1950s-early 1960s, and Boomers in the late 1960s-1970s had no relevance by the time most Millennials reached the dating market in the 2000s.

Absentee fathers are an issue but present fathers are not that much better for teaching attraction-seduction.

Beta males with social circles tend to have an easier time getting longer term relationships. However, their beta traits will eventually catch up to them and lead to breakups/divorces after many years in a extended relationship. This often takes the form of a divorced guy with children having his relationship fail.

Beta males without social circles tend to have more problems on the front end of relationships. They have more trouble getting dates and more of the dates that they have tend to fail quickly. They get earlier stage rejections, which are unpleasant. However, this might be useful as it helps them avoid a costly divorce and costly child support payments. They get rejected before anything impactful happens.
 

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Imagine a new guy starting to date and follows these advices? All the heartbreak he will have. Thia is the best way to become the gay male friend. I did all of that when I was starting, but they always fvcked the "bad boy", cliche

Things that make you attractive to women are the things not necessary make you a "good" person.
depends

if you are in a relationship, you have to tone down otherwise it will not work

in a relationship is ok to do stuff like that, as long as you also f8ck the sh1t out of her in a rough way ( from time to time at least )
 

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Yeah of course, but like I wrote "a guy starting to date" listening to this video and see its not like that it will create a mental shock. And like every fvcking women on planet earth she says "what most women want and will crave to be with a man like this" which fails to put the asterisk *this only applies for women you're in a LTR for years, she's earned it and she's very invested in you*
what the author does not say is that this is what women want the guys they are really attracted want to do, not some average joe that they think is gross to even see him without a t shirt off

*** early on ***

Actually everything that is written by women starts with The premise that they are already super attracted to the guy, that is why most of the advice coming from women is worthless, unless ofc you are one of the lucky guys that the Girl is super into them
 
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100% man. Now imagine a guy (me) hearing that BS for over 20 years from elders, women, men, peers, crashing and burning, the mental shock and anger that can cause.

This video explains it, I wasn't an incel per se, but definitely explains what guys go through.

yeah, this bs is very damaging :)

I look at myself, when I do not really like the girl for some reason i am very sexual because my line of thinking is “ either now or never “

in the moment I like the girl, especially at a personal level, I start making stupid mistakes and then everything vanishes

maybe that sh1t used to work 50 years ago, but these days the escalation windows are so tiny that if you do not move right there and right now things will fizzle out no matter how well you connect

really depressing to be hit right in the face by the nature of women, even if you know what it is and how it feels

sometimes I am thinking if it is better to live without hope or on anti depressive to cope with all these stuff :)

I also get the idea from almost all angles that people in general do not know how men actually feel living in this world full of expectations from them. You can never let the guard down and be chill as that will be perceived as a sign of weakness and be slapped with the biggest nukes human kind knows. It is ultra competitive being a guy and you can never be relaxed if you want to keep your spot up in the food chain

No wonder all the successful men that are seen as role models are actually sociopaths, otherwise you can not keep your spot
 
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If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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