Youtube short that sums up todays' dating market

[Bigpapa]

The data shows no real big shifts

But, apparently men with college degrees get laid less than non college degree dudes ( always has been the case apparently )

The only big difference I would say is that people born more than 50 years go are not tech savvy enough to come to a forum and complain, like the younger generation does

Most likely they were more manly too, as they understood that they have to do something in order to get laid. Not be a KJ and mentally masturbate

Unless ofc there is a big worldwide conspiracy against incels

But for sure, the median for number of partners is the highest for women born from the 40s till the 60s ( so called golden age that everyone keeps referring to )

 

[BillyPilgrim]

The data shows no real big shifts

But, apparently men with college degrees get laid less than non college degree dudes ( always has been the case apparently )

The only big difference I would say is that people born more than 50 years go are not tech savvy enough to come to a forum and complain, like the younger generation does

Most likely they were more manly too, as they understood that they have to do something in order to get laid. Not be a KJ and mentally masturbate

Unless ofc there is a big worldwide conspiracy against incels

But for sure, the median for number of partners is the highest for women born from the 40s till the 60s ( so called golden age that everyone keeps referring to )

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There's an obvious conspiracy against humanity and if you don't see it at this point, you are a blind man sir.

Let's do a quick intelligence test: what is the significance of the Invasion of Normandy starting at 5:30 am on June 6th, 1944?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

If women remained ‘traditional’ we would not see technology and innovation today that we have today.
Sorry fellas, I’m not going back to dial-up porn

This makes little sense. Are women inventing these technologies? Are modern women some kind of inspirational source? Does not compute.

 

[Bigpapa]

There's an obvious conspiracy against humanity and if you don't see it at this point, you are a blind man sir.

Let's do a quick intelligence test: what is the significance of the Invasion of Normandy starting at 5:30 am on June 6th, 1944?

Might be the case, but most people still get laid at the same level as before, so if we talk only about this ( as the discussion so far was about ) then it is fair to say that there is no conspiracy for people to get laid less

 

[corrector]

what is the significance of the Invasion of Normandy starting at 5:30 am on June 6th, 1944?

My dad was not born until June 20th,.so it happened two weeks earlier.

 

[Smok1nAce]

Almost every women I have every meet who says guys are social awkward are projecting and are always the social awkward ones.

Yes attractive women can be social awkward.

 

[SW15]

Almost every women I have every meet who says guys are social awkward are projecting and are always the social awkward ones.

Yes attractive women can be social awkward.

I've seen some social awkwardness among my friends' girlfriends/wives. These have all been Millennial women who are now in their mid to late 30s, but even 10 years ago many of them were socially awkward too. Social awkwardness took root in the Millennial generation with all the technological innovations that came about in the 1990s/2000s.

 

[SargeMaximus]

This is stupid AF. My grandad worked his ass off through manual labor to support my grandma. My great grandad and going further worked similar jobs and fought in horrible wars to support their spouses. Meanwhile, your average dude today can easily get laid without being gainfully employed and contributing jack shvt to society. You can complain all you want about Modern Women, but there are guys out their fvcking them right now. I would much rather adapt to modern women than live in pre 1980s America or some third world country.

It’s called progress dude. I never understand the nostalgic masochists

 

[Smok1nAce]

It’s called progress dude. I never understand the nostalgic masochists

Most men & women arnt **** its been that way since the dawn of time, we are just the echo from the 1900s when christian values of getting married where seen as the purpose of life. Most propaganda (social programing) from that time pushed men and women to get married and have kids as soon a possible.

Look back 500 years ago and the they would have laughed their asses off at men complaining about "not getting laid" I would bet men then would have lived a short life without even getting to see a women fully naked.

Its all prospective. We are living in a world that has been fully colonized. All out war has been primarily eradicated and is seen by most of modern civilizations as primitive. Modern women and minorities have been primarly liberated by colonization laws and mindset and ignorance. Its basically the world tribe coming together through thousands of years when we first left the continent of Africa.

Back to my orginal thought of men and women not being **** it still holds to this day. Men have used their god given strength to rule over others and women are just using their god given gift of beauty to their advantage. Men and women though out time have both abused their powers. We have lived though times of men abusing their power, with violent wars. My guess is in 100 years we will start to see some of the effects good or bad of women's sexual liberation.

The only advice I can give the modern single man is to stay healthy, and live life doing things you want to do, at this point the worse thing is to chase women. Not saying avoid women but I wouldnt worry about getting laid. At least nowadays the stigman of being a virgin is understandable.

 

[Redwood]

I've seen some social awkwardness among my friends' girlfriends/wives. These have all been Millennial women who are now in their mid to late 30s, but even 10 years ago many of them were socially awkward too. Social awkwardness took root in the Millennial generation with all the technological innovations that came about in the 1990s/2000s.

I hate that I feel it's worsening over time. Which is funny because this was discussed ten years ago

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Might be the case, but most people still get laid at the same level as before, so if we talk only about this ( as the discussion so far was about ) then it is fair to say that there is no conspiracy for people to get laid less

Feminism was borne from conspiracy (Gloria Steinem was CIA) and over in Japan, the dudes have gone from wanting to work 80 hours a week to sitting at home all day in their parent's basements.

So good for you if there's no change but there's definitely a crisis out there and there's a definitely a conspiracy to disenfranchise people, and men in particular, in the western world. People need to be aware of these things to make intelligent decisions regarding their future, and shooting the messenger doesn't help their decision processes.

D-Day was launched on the 6th hour of the 6th day of the 6th month because it was a tribute to Satan (666). It was even formally called Operation Overlord.

All of the chest beating and ear-clogging in the world doesn't change any of this, dude. Perhaps you'll have learned something today though..

 

[SargeMaximus]

Most men & women arnt **** its been that way since the dawn of time, we are just the echo from the 1900s when christian values of getting married where seen as the purpose of life. Most propaganda (social programing) from that time pushed men and women to get married and have kids as soon a possible.

Look back 500 years ago and the they would have laughed their asses off at men complaining about "not getting laid" I would bet men then would have lived a short life without even getting to see a women fully naked.

Its all prospective. We are living in a world that has been fully colonized. All out war has been primarily eradicated and is seen by most of modern civilizations as primitive. Modern women and minorities have been primarly liberated by colonization laws and mindset and ignorance. Its basically the world tribe coming together through thousands of years when we first left the continent of Africa.

Back to my orginal thought of men and women not being **** it still holds to this day. Men have used their god given strength to rule over others and women are just using their god given gift of beauty to their advantage. Men and women though out time have both abused their powers. We have lived though times of men abusing their power, with violent wars. My guess is in 100 years we will start to see some of the effects good or bad of women's sexual liberation.

The only advice I can give the modern single man is to stay healthy, and live life doing things you want to do, at this point the worse thing is to chase women. Not saying avoid women but I wouldnt worry about getting laid. At least nowadays the stigman of being a virgin is understandable.

Yeah I take women as they come but they aren’t my focus anymore. Luckily I look half decent

 

[BillyPilgrim]

My dad was not born until June 20th,.so it happened two weeks earlier.

June 20th wasn't 666, Corrector. No Christian should be making light of this imo.

 

[Bigpapa]

Feminism was borne from conspiracy (Gloria Steinem was CIA) and over in Japan, the dudes have gone from wanting to work 80 hours a week to sitting at home all day in their parent's basements.

So good for you if there's no change but there's definitely a crisis out there and there's a definitely a conspiracy to disenfranchise people, and men in particular, in the western world. People need to be aware of these things to make intelligent decisions regarding their future, and shooting the messenger doesn't help their decision processes.

D-Day was launched on the 6th hour of the 6th day of the 6th month because it was a tribute to Satan (666). It was even formally called Operation Overlord.

All of the chest beating and ear-clogging in the world doesn't change any of this, dude. Perhaps you'll have learned something today though..

What this has to do with getting laid?

The stats show that people still get laid more or less at the same level as they did in the golden years that you guys keep mentioning

We keep the subject about sex, not conspiracy theories

The only difference is that back in those days people did not have access to forums to complain as they do today

People who do not get laid should not project the same thing on others and focus only the data that proves their point

Things being more or less the same in terms of sex for the 100 years or so, someone who does not get laid ( mainly incels or borderline incels)
is more an outlier than the norm. Not being able to get laid says more about you than than women or society

 

[Gamisch]

What this has to do with getting laid?

The stats show that people still get laid more or less at the same level as they did in the golden years that you guys keep mentioning

We keep the subject about sex, not conspiracy theories

The only difference is that back in those days people did not have access to forums to complain as they do today

People who do not get laid should not project the same thing on others and focus only the data that proves their point

Things being more or less the same in terms of sex for the 100 years or so, someone who does not get laid ( mainly incels)
is more an outlier than the norm. Not being able to get laid says more about you than than women or society

I dont know if it even possible to measure how many men do get laid or not. We cant deny that it feels like tons of men dont get laid. Especially because its a time where everybody can meet everybody AND people can share their experiences easily its even more noticeable when men don't get laid.

That being said ,isnt that the purpose of being a DJ and sosuave? To navigate through this all successfully and find out ways and strategies to make it work for yourself?

To manage and improve your approach game. Your approach venues. Your style of clothes, of talking and even walking. Your gym game. Financial game.

Even when you dont get laid (yet) during the dryspell period there's still tons of stuff that you can do. And that's the problem with OP. He doesn't seems to understand how to navigate in todays market.

 

[Bigpapa]

I dont know if it even possible to measure how many men do get laid or not. We cant deny that it feels like tons of men dont get laid. Especially because its a time where everybody can meet everybody AND people can share their experiences easily its even more noticeable when men don't get laid.

That being said ,isnt that the purpose of being a DJ and sosuave? To navigate through this all successfully and find out ways and strategies to make it work for yourself?

To manage and improve your approach game. Your approach venues. Your style of clothes, of talking and even walking. Your gym game. Financial game.

Even when you dont get laid (yet) during the dryspell period there's still tons of stuff that you can do. And that's the problem with OP. He doesn't seems to understand how to navigate in todays market.

Sure, the game is different now than it used to be prior to all the technological advances or societal changes

50 years ago it did not really matter your style for example, because everyone was dressed like sh1t and clothes were quite expensive and only the rich afforded the luxury to dress nice

Same thing with a lot of stuff

It is true that the game is way more complex now than 50 years ago, but most men adapted to these changes ( at least adapting )

You either keep pace with the changes, either you will become absolute like the dinosaurs. Survival of the fittest

 

[RangerMIke]

If you find yourself standing in a rainstorm you have four choices (1) Go inside. (2) Open an umbrella (3) Shakes your fist at the sky and get angry because you are getting wet. (4) Stand there and get wet.

The environment is what it is. Complaining about it is a pointless waste of time... getting depressed about it is a waste of time. Woman and they way the beThe only rational action is to understand the reality of the environment and use it to your advantage.

Dating and finding quality partners is hard. The good ones get scooped up quick, and/or you lose them quick, and that really isn't anything that a man can control. Much of it is luck and timing. Then you get her... but sh1t changes... you lose her... again it's not really anything a man can control. If a woman is in a right frame of mind at a particular moment, you ask her out... she keeps the date... and you connect... that's just blind @ss luck and perfect timing... as you date her, again things just have to keep going right as she moves through her emotional machinations.

The only way to live is to define what you want out of your life, where do you think you will be in 5, 10, 20 years. Where and when do you want to retire. What you like to do in your free time? What are your hobbies? Stay on your purpose, keep trying to date and the women who fit your life will find you, and yes it's not easy. So open the umbrella, going inside is a viable option as well (i.e just avoid women all together)... the other options are just pointless.

Keep trying, keep dating, but don't let that pull you off your purpose which is to be the best version of yourself. Don't settle for a woman that is going to be a pain in the @ss or requires you to become something that you are not. If you don't want to do this fine... just walk away from women. Seriously it is better to be alone than to be enslaved by a woman who really has no idea what she wants.

If you are trying to date a woman that is making things hard or demanding too much from you with the only thing she is willing to give you is sex, that she hands out like a Scooby Snacks then just walk away from her.... keep looking.... rinse and repeat. If you never find her... no problem you get to live your life doing what you want to do finding joy in that.

 

[SW15]

that's the problem with OP. He doesn't seems to understand how to navigate in todays market.

In fairness to the OP, the markets of the last 15-25 years have been quite difficult markets. I've seen changes since I entered the market in the late 1990s in high school. I don't think I entered the market in the late 1990s/early 2000s at a particularly good time either.

There are plenty of older Millennials (1981-1988 births) out there who never did a good job navigating the market. That's true for both men and women. I think it's more true for men. Younger Millennials and Gen Z aren't doing any better than the older Millennials. There's a good case to be made that they are doing worse.

There are also 50+ year olds re-entering the market after 20+ years away. Those people also have a difficult time dealing with the current state of the market.

The OP and most Millennials have had plenty of access to red pill and other mating marketplace materials.

A lot of people struggling in the dating market turn to the internet for guidance. A lot of the internet guidance is blue pill though. This place is one of the different places.

 

[IKO69]

What this has to do with getting laid?

The stats show that people still get laid more or less at the same level as they did in the golden years that you guys keep mentioning

We keep the subject about sex, not conspiracy theories

The only difference is that back in those days people did not have access to forums to complain as they do today

People who do not get laid should not project the same thing on others and focus only the data that proves their point

Things being more or less the same in terms of sex for the 100 years or so, someone who does not get laid ( mainly incels or borderline incels)
is more an outlier than the norm. Not being able to get laid says more about you than than women or society

From talking to my elders I got the impression things were really no different back then as compared to now. People smoked, drank, got into fist fights and had sex. There was simply no social media to document everyday escapades (which can be a bit embarrassing now). We really cannot expect human nature to change much within a generation. I am half greek/half sicilian. My father was a merchant and met my mother in Rome when she was going to University there. They were were kind of like hippies, they were liberal even though both but especially my mother, had a very conservative upbringing.

When I go back and watch some of those Greek and Italian films from that time period, which I thoroughly enjoy, I see a lot of the same themes present today. There is no need to romanticize the past, what was great yesteryear is still taking place now. This current moment is what matters and we have to make the most of it.

 

[sangheilios]

If you find yourself standing in a rainstorm you have four choices (1) Go inside. (2) Open an umbrella (3) Shakes your fist at the sky and get angry because you are getting wet. (4) Stand there and get wet.

The environment is what it is. Complaining about it is a pointless waste of time... getting depressed about it is a waste of time. Woman and they way the beThe only rational action is to understand the reality of the environment and use it to your advantage.

Dating and finding quality partners is hard. The good ones get scooped up quick, and/or you lose them quick, and that really isn't anything that a man can control. Much of it is luck and timing. Then you get her... but sh1t changes... you lose her... again it's not really anything a man can control. If a woman is in a right frame of mind at a particular moment, you ask her out... she keeps the date... and you connect... that's just blind @ss luck and perfect timing... as you date her, again things just have to keep going right as she moves through her emotional machinations.

The only way to live is to define what you want out of your life, where do you think you will be in 5, 10, 20 years. Where and when do you want to retire. What you like to do in your free time? What are your hobbies? Stay on your purpose, keep trying to date and the women who fit your life will find you, and yes it's not easy. So open the umbrella, going inside is a viable option as well (i.e just avoid women all together)... the other options are just pointless.

Keep trying, keep dating, but don't let that pull you off your purpose which is to be the best version of yourself. Don't settle for a woman that is going to be a pain in the @ss or requires you to become something that you are not. If you don't want to do this fine... just walk away from women. Seriously it is better to be alone than to be enslaved by a woman who really has no idea what she wants.

If you are trying to date a woman that is making things hard or demanding too much from you with the only thing she is willing to give you is sex, that she hands out like a Scooby Snacks then just walk away from her.... keep looking.... rinse and repeat. If you never find her... no problem you get to live your life doing what you want to do finding joy in that.

I agree with your comment about dating and getting into a relationship being heavily based on luck, perfect timing, etc.

With that said, you and the other posters are missing the point that is how much more difficult the modern mating market is compared to what boomer males and their fathers would have faced. Being an average man in that time period was good enough to where you'd get married and have children. We live in a dating market today where women have an overabundance of options and because of this are far more selective and picky with what they choose. As I've mentioned many times on here before, there are many boomer males that got married and had children that would be complete incels in the modern dating scene. I personally can cite a boomer male born in the late 40s who most certainly has undiagnosed autism/Asperger's that was married and had multiple children while having an average income. A young man like this in today's scene would severely struggle to even get a date, let alone a second date or even a relationship, marriage, etc.

Women's overall expectations are much higher than what you would have seen in decades past. There is nothing you or I can do about this but it's important for young men to realize this is the reality we are faced with. When 2/3 of young men are single and near sexless that is a huge problem, so much so that even the mainstream media can no longer avoid it. This has been a silent trend for quite a while now until more recently gaining public attention. I suspected this was the case well before the pandemic, based on my personal experiences and observations, and it was interesting to see these feelings later confirmed. I don't think you and the others realize just how much of an impact this will have on society at large. In fact, I think many of you are severely underestimating the potential negative consequences of this. This is completely uncharted territory and you should be concerned.