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Fruitbat

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I am struggling with this dilemma:

I've always had disgust for those that say one thing and think another.

I put value and respect on people that speak their mind or the unvarnished truth.

I've noticed that the people that get on in life don't do this. They will conceal their intentions and run along with everyone and keep their thoughts private. They then use this to their advantage.

To me it seems a lot of effort living this life and if I did it, I'd feel totally out of control.


An example is the Trump or Brexit thing. This forum had quite a few threads about how supporting trump etc has caused them to be ostracised or victimised. I faced this with Brexit.

If I had gone along with it, my stock would be high, I could be possibly doing well with women or building friendships. However, I stuck to my guns and have become a pariah. Same at work. If you stand out, you'll be targeted.

So, does the real man reserve his true feelings for private or is this being cowardly.

I have always viewed manliness as standing up for what you believe. However, I have learned women seem to like men who are effective and get things their way, in a Machiavellian way.

All the guys I know who have tons of women tend to do what the situation demands or what the woman values. They are not people that pin their colours to the mast. They are tacticians.

How does one reconcile standing for something with playing the system? The system of wealth and pvssy seems to favour being a snake.
 

SuckItUp

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At the end of the day a man is only as good as his integrity.

Stand up for what you believe in.

As for women and the dating game as you've noticed there's a lot of bs going on. Trying to think of it as a game where the winner can mess with the other without going into reprehensible behavior.

If your a footy fan think of dark arts when you are dealing with women. You can have integrity while being a flirt and a tad rakish. In fact women like themselves a bit of a scoundrel.
 

FwoGiZ

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What's stronger; a knight or a ninja?
I'm a ninja cause knights die early...
Obviously a mixture of both but I'd say 80% ninja/20% knight? ;)
 

AlexKaiser

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I don't stand up for what's right at my own expense. I'm very against shark finning, but I'm not going to give up my life and combat it on the open oceans, and risk being killed by illegal finners or being jailed for "piracy/vandalism/whatever".

There's a hell of a lot of people suffering for honor and what's right, and getting nothing out of it except for a boost of serotonin or oxytocin because they "did the right thing."

Most people I know who stood up for what they believed in, did it because others were around. They don't give a **** unless there are observers, people to sympathize, empathize or just observe them.

Yes, getting into a girl's pants does require you do some immoral ****. If I lied to this really pretty 19yr old girl I'm crushing on, took her on a date, told her all the things she wanted to hear, lie about wanting to get married, guaranteed I could **** her in a good 12 hours. When I was done I'd nope the fk out of there, and watch as her trusts diminishes and she becomes a vindictive untrusting "female game" *****.

What would make me feel worse? Turning her into a paranoid ***** because I broke her heart and did a pump and dump? or watching another guy do the same thing, and ruin my chances at being with her easily?
 
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