Your Thoughts...By What Mechanisms do Women Weaken Men?

[VladPatton]

Just like anything, you have to not be a slave to her. The guys that I've seen that had their lives flushed in the shıtter were a slave to their women. Whether it was her puṣṣy or his fear of not being able to get another one, it was his addiction to her puṣṣy and fear of losing his princess that destroyed him. Just dumb basically. They were led by two fingers up the nose by her and they played along. She's the boss, right??? She's never wrong, right? We're talking doctors and financial white collar motherfückers, it's insane. Right down the tubes because they just played along. Why, I don't know.

It's your responsibility in this life to do the right thing for you (firstly), your family, your kids, and for your friends. Become complacent, apathetic, and things go out of whack. You loose control by way of cause and effect. IN relationships especially, there is a lot of coasting instead of fixing or starting over again.

So is it the woman? A shıt job? A shıt house you hate? Possibly. But it is still your fault because you're not fixing it. It's easier for life to fück you in the ass if you bend over. Don't bend over. *drops mic*

 

[In2theGame]

Deep breath....::sigh::.... I wasn't going to make a post because many have already made great posts but I believe this is an interesting and important topic because it can be kind of a grey area. However I have been through this cycle twice and thinking back, i kind of hate myself for it but i can understand why and how many of us Men go "wrong". When we meet our LTR's we are mostly exhibiting confidence, masculine traits by "gaming" her and raising her interest levels while your interest levels rise as well to the point that you both decide that you are officially "together". Once the fuse is lit, it all becomes about you and her because of course you dont want your now girlfriend feel neglected and its not like your avoiding her anyway, for the most part the beginning of new relationships are in the "Honeymoon" stage and you dont mind doing things and spending alot of your time with her. Rightly so since this is how things begin and if they work out... lead to marriage/kids/family in later years but thats thinking too far ahead.

I think it has to do with the "modern" woman's feminist way of thinking that this becomes a problem because if you were continue with your passions/hobbies/life goals, There are going to be moments where you cant spend time with her and this will upset her and she will feel like you dont care about her, whereas Women of the past understood that a Man has to do what a Man has to do, it doesnt mean he loves her any less but Women today dont care what he wants, its all about her. After all, Your her boyfriend now right? so she will begin to complain about you not wanting to see or do things with her BUT at first it wont come off as a complaint, it will most likely sound like... "Baby, I miss you i want to see you!" "Please come to xyz with me baby" "Can we do xyz later? baby? I really want to see you!".... Us men have a soft spot for a Woman we really like and.... You will put aside your plans with your friends, Plans for yourself be it business/gym/fixing car etc... You will put those things off and go with what your girl is asking of you. Over time the Man becomes more lenient towards what his girlfriend wants to do so that she remains "happy". This doesnt happen all at once but over time the Man kind of loses himself and has completely put off his plans for a business, getting the car he wants, The plans with friends he had, Has stopped working out and putting on pounds and then she eventually feels she "has" him on the leash. If your not careful, not only will you become complacent and comfortable, You will become the boring, fat out of shape boyfriend that she has begin to dislike. This is where the balls of sh!t begin to rain down on your world. She begins to complain in b!tchy ways, telling YOU what to do and although throughout the years/months you have done everything to make her happy, she's come to dislike you in the end and lose attraction to you. Plus, believe me when i tell you... It doesnt matter if she got fat and complacent too,... It only matters that you did lol

This is why im thinking of steering clear of a relationship for now atleast. What i described has happened to all of my friends and myself. I remember when i first met my ex LTR, i was a lean 165 pounds that used to play basketball every weekend to stay in shape after the work week as an engineer, i shot up to 260 pounds over 5 years. All of my money i made was for me, Not worrying about a buying girlfriend something for her Birthday/Christmas/Anniversary/Valentines Day/Dinner Dates/Vacations/Special Occasions/Friends Gathering/Gifts for parents/Holidays etc.... Its EXTREMELY financially taxing to have a girlfriend and will dry your wallet out over time to which you have no fvcking idea if shes going to even stick around and stay faithful.

Dont become the comfortable boring boyfriend no matter what anyone tells you, it WILL lead your relationship and status into Hell's flames. They will tell you to "Cherish her", "Lover Her" "Take Care of her" "Treat her Special" "Put her before you if you care about her" Etc.... That will lead to your destruction. Dont get me wrong, Im all for finding someone you can be with but is the juice worth the squeeze? LoL Im not so sure it is with today's women. Stay fit, Stay strong framed and if your girlfriend is demanding of you.. Kick her as hard as a world cup soccer ball to the curb and let her know she needs to watch her fvcking tone. Modern Women are empowered remember? they dont need no man "We can do it"... Ok cool then Women, go do it by yourself.

 

[zekko]

The prime directive for most lifeforms, after survival, is to reproduce. For many species, the male lives just long enough to mate, or dies as soon as he mates, or uses up all his resources to mate. There may be something similar going on with humans. Maybe the male feels he has acheived his life's purpose, and so begins the long spiral down.

Do you think this is mainly a modern phenomenon? Or has it always been this way? Certainly men who give up the frame to their wives (which is more common in modern, more feminist times) are susceptible to this. Obviously, Smasher, you don't believe this happens in every instance, since you are looking for the keys to avoid it. I don't think it is correct to characterize the classic family man, fighting to raise his children and family, as weak.

Also, even if men weaken by being in LTRs, they appear to gain something also. Numerous surveys show that married men live longer and are healthier than their single counterparts.

I've come to realize that I tend to prefer LTRs because of my introvert personality - the same reason why I prefer to have a few close friends as opposed to many acquaintences. But I can't imagine a situation where I would abandon my responsibilities, relationships or no.

I think the real answer comes down to maintaining your frame, and your identity. As long as you do that, you should be in good shape. I've found that keeping the LTR while avoiding the marriage (the modern version is on life support) helps a lot.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Excellent stuff, guys... really outstanding. Keep the theories coming. I would like to cull them together, including a few of my own, into a document that may help men to be more aware and able to recognize and handle the challenging forces that come with a relationship.

I don't think this particular topic has gotten the attention and study that it deserves. Like I said, if anyone has anything to add, please do. It's all been great, useful material so far.