Your Looking At Too Many Mens Diks!

[Pierce Manhammer]

Had three mug sized black teas today with little food. Just ate something. Probably was the black teas.

Caffeine can certainly make you nauseous and feeling pretty crappy and anxious. Drink a lot of water if this happens again, it’ll help your kidneys clear the caffeine from your system.

I remember working at a company that had espresso machines on every other floor in each of the buildings at HQ. I was in my twenties and one day I had one too many espressos - I felt exactly the way you describe, I’d say there’s a high probability it was the caffeine.

 

[corrector]

My Idea of intense porn addiction is,

01. When you need to watch it daily

Prior to the quit, as in the month of December, yes, it appears as thought I was looking at something daily right up to the December 31st when I spent $ 7 on a video of a striptease from an escort for New Years Eve from an actual escort working in the city.

02. When you need to watch it, even though you are getting laid

I'm not getting laid, so no.

03. When you're going deeper down the rabbit hole of depravity & watching shyte that is pretty focked up

Just like looking at local escorts who "happen" to have OnlyFans pages. It's unlikely that would go into any sick territory.
But, I think some escorts have some sick/twisted minds and allow guys to do things to them and put it out on photos/videos.
However, they are choosing to do so and are not being exploited.

04. When you want to reanact porn type sex, with ever girl you meet

That would mean actually visiting an escort. I understand the difference between "civvies and escorts. I'm not interested in enacting any scene with an escort with a "civvie" but would be interested as a promotion of the escort's services and what could be expected if you hire the escort.

05. When you're heading down cuck territory

Clients/johns who use escorts are not cucks, but their boyfriends/husbands could be.

 

[corrector]

Having one of those days around that I would like to look at porn (ie as in escort ads). I'm identifying them. There is a stomach bug, things look nauseating and I don't feel 100%. I just had a pizza not too long ago and two mugs of coffee. This is probably too much caffine?

It's like I feel if I feel physically not 100%, that the escort ads will make me feel "normal". Looking at nice skantly clad pictures of women, different shapes, sizes, races, hair colour, eye colour, feet, toenails, handnails, parts of their body, pores on their skin, how the pores of skin of different races look like, imagine how their hair would smell, armpits would smell, skin would smell, how their voice would sound like, like a happy fuzzy spell. I can only write about such a craving, but REFUSE to act on it and give the eyes what it wants to desperatley feast on.

This is just so hard. But I survived about under two weeks of this. I'm hoping describing how my cravings are feeling like, in words, will release some of the steam.

 

[soulforge]

Having one of those days around that I would like to look at porn (ie as in escort ads). I'm identifying them. There is a stomach bug, things look nauseating and I don't feel 100%. I just had a pizza not too long ago and two mugs of coffee. This is probably too much caffine?

It's like I feel if I feel physically not 100%, that the escort ads will make me feel "normal". Looking at nice skantly clad pictures of women, different shapes, sizes, races, hair colour, eye colour, feet, toenails, handnails, parts of their body, pores on their skin, how the pores of skin of different races look like, imagine how their hair would smell, armpits would smell, skin would smell, how their voice would sound like, like a happy fuzzy spell. I can only write about such a craving, but REFUSE to act on it and give the eyes what it wants to desperatley feast on.

This is just so hard. But I survived about under two weeks of this. I'm hoping describing how my cravings are feeling like, in words, will release some of the steam.

Stop being a Puzzy bro!

It's not that damn difficult for you to refrain yourself from playing with your penis.

Apply some self control.. you're a man right?

Well men are meant to be disciplined & focused on achievements. Whacking off to porn or escort sites, is not an achievement.

I love sex just as much as you do, and I haven't whacked off even once in around 4 months.

 

[corrector]

Stop being a Puzzy bro!

It's not that damn difficult for you to refrain yourself from playing with your penis.

Apply some self control.. you're a man right?

Well men are meant to be disciplined & focused on achievements. Whacking off to porn or escort sites, is not an achievement.

I love sex just as much as you do, and I haven't whacked off even once in around 4 months.

I looked at some music videos from Corrs and other music videos elsewhere and feel alright at the moment. Music videos are processed differently if you have not fapped in a while. Any female singers feel more present within the music videos themselves and there is slightly better quality in processing the visuals and music. 39 minutes of music videos were just played straight. Music videos don't lend themselves to fapping.

 

[corrector]

I didn't look at those types of music videos. I suspended watching movies with sexual or sensual content on them. Yes, everything is banned until midnight.

After midnight then the heck with no-fap, no-porn and all that. I don't have a gf and the heck with all of this crap. It's the middle of January. Everyone breaks their New Years resolutions around this time. I just make it more official then the next guy.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WATCH THIS ONE @corrector

 

[corrector]

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WATCH THIS ONE @corrector

I'll look at that video, among others, after midnight. I may as well enjoy whatever freedom from porn/fap that I have made up in these past two weeks before its all obliterated.

 

[corrector]

That being said, here are some videos that I have looked at which are non-sexual but have that feminine energy:

 

[soulforge]

Have you made progress losing body fat? Have you become fvckable? No amount of No Fap will ever help with women if you''re a fat slob.

Yeh I mean if you look like shyte, no fap isn't going to help much lol

 

[corrector]

Have you made progress losing body fat? Have you become fvckable? No amount of No Fap will ever help with women if you''re a fat slob.

Just lost about 10 lbs so far. The lifestyle of a full-time job lends itself to a glacial rate of weight loss.

 

[corrector]

Yeh I mean if you look like shyte, no fap isn't going to help much lol

I guess it's not going to be helpful with me then. It's an interesting exercise at best. I'm not a stereotypical fat slob playing video-games though. As most of my looks are genetic based (ie height, hair-loss, aging effect on face & eyes in particular, jawline, etc...) then the biggest issue is if I looksmaxx/gymaxx and I'm getting no traction right now, then what options can I expect after all that? From what I hear from stories like @sangheilios, that does not look very promising. I'm also aged quite a bit, and don't have an option to even betabuxx if I wanted to even go there. Age and financial instability are a bad mix.

However, it is good to hear a realistic comment coming from you for a change. You can see that I have at least tried this and that you can see that it is something that does not work with everyone (although you were suggesting before as though it does). Pushing no-fap/no-porn like it is some magic pill doesnt' do anyone any favours as its like using a water-pistol to put out an out of control fire.

 

[soulforge]

I guess it's not going to be helpful with me then. It's an interesting exercise at best. I'm not a stereotypical fat slob playing video-games though. As most of my looks are genetic based (ie height, hair-loss, aging effect on face & eyes in particular, jawline, etc...) then the biggest issue is if I looksmaxx/gymaxx and I'm getting no traction right now, then what options can I expect after all that? From what I hear from stories like @sangheilios, that does not look very promising. I'm also aged quite a bit, and don't have an option to even betabuxx if I wanted to even go there. Age and financial instability are a bad mix.

However, it is good to hear a realistic comment coming from you for a change. You can see that I have at least tried this and that you can see that it is something that does not work with everyone (although you were suggesting before as though it does). Pushing no-fap/no-porn like it is some magic pill doesnt' do anyone any favours as its like using a water-pistol to put out an out of control fire.

I don't think myself or anyone here suggested that no-fap was a magic pill that will have chicks throwing themselves at you.

What even gave you the impression that is what we are selling?

No fap is strictly about improving yourself, so you are no longer a slave to your primal urges and more importantly that you can break away from the mind fuk that is pornography.

And to the point of genetics? True if your short and bald, then yeh it's genetics, not much you can do about that...

However... You can be bald and also sexy.

Yup if you develop the right body in the gym, you can actually get away with being bald.

Lots of men I know of who are bald, but built a killer body, actually look good and baldness suites them.

I'm 5ft8 and bald.. However I don't cry about it.. I get my ass out of bed 5.30am pretty much every single day and hit that gym super hard.

My jaw line looks better, my neck, my facial structure looks better.. this is all due to good nutrition and lifting weights over decades.

You simply have to make the best, of what God has given you looks/height and age wise.

 

[corrector]

I don't think myself or anyone here suggested that no-fap was a magic pill that will have chicks throwing themselves at you.

What even gave you the impression that is what we are selling?

I've read through several posts and the results that people brag about is usually related to their ability to attract women. That's where the money is on that thing the way it is promoted. That is how you sounded like you packaged it as well. It's not packaged as some mere self-improvement independent of picking up women.

No fap is strictly about improving yourself, so you are no longer a slave to your primal urges

I don't buy that the way it is promoted. If you are no longer a slave to your primal urges then don't even bother having sex or dealing with any woman at all. When you look at it, when guys sex up women and build up notch-counts, then aren't they a slave in some way to that. That just sounds like a more high-level sophisticated slave, but in the end the principle is the same.

and more importantly that you can break away from the mind fuk that is pornography.

You mean like suspension of disbelief, such as buying a lottery ticket and hoping to win, or watching a movie that you like, but knowing that it's not true?

And to the point of genetics? True if your short and bald, then yeh it's genetics, not much you can do about that...

However... You can be bald and also sexy.

That's fine, but that is not the issue. I'm not making the case that hard self-improvement (ie if possible) might now help improve your looks and translate to a better response among women in the envion, although even that is debatable (ie if everyone self-improves then you don't stand out as much and even chads might experienced a diminishing returns as there are more chads to compete with in the marketplace as everyone jumps on the self-improvement looksmaxxing and gymaxxing bandwagon). However, I am making the case to see if no-fap/no-porn is as helpful and dramatic as it's often portrayed to be.

Remember just the other day you posted to me about semen retention and no-fap as thought it was something that could help.

All I have done so far with that is talk to a single mother, who has a 6 year old daughter and feel thirsty enough to want to date her, but we all know how my ex-wife turned out (ie who also had a 6 year old daughter at the time I dated her). Being too thirsty is not a good thing.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Just because @sangheilios is having trouble attracting women (don’t recall him saying so), does not mean you will. You’re articulate, intelligent, and you’re still relatively young.

Why is it that it seems like you’re looking for every excuse not to improve yourself “because one guy on the internet said so”?

If you lost the weight and put on some muscle, you’ll be more confident, you’ll walk taller and be healthier. When I went from 5’10” 32% bf 200lbs to 8-9% bf I even walked taller, my shoulders naturally set back, I didn’t have to remind myself to throw them back.

In talking to women that I dated that were my height and taller - up to 6’, more than one said something along the lines of “I dunno you ‘feel’ and ‘behave’ as if you were taller - you’re so confident!”.

Yea getting in shape was a personal journey, I did it for ME, a happy side effect was being treated with more respect by men and women, multiple quick promotions in my career, and the attention of women I’d never seen before in my life. Normal blood pressure, brighter skin, clearer eyes, better digestion, from stage IV hypertension to 123/68 bp, 46 SVO2MAX, lower cholesterol and more.

Stop excusing your lack of initiative at self improvement because you don’t think it’ll net you a chick you’re attracted to, and start thinking of reason to better yourself - FOR YOU.

 

[corrector]

Exactly. As I've mentioned, for practical results from self-improvement, obviously gymmaxxing and looksmaxxing will be the right direction. As no-fap does not improve looks in the same way these other things to, then it is not helpful on its on right.

 

[soulforge]

I've read through several posts and the results that people brag about is usually related to their ability to attract women. That's where the money is on that thing the way it is promoted. That is how you sounded like you packaged it as well. It's not packaged as some mere self-improvement independent of picking up women.



I don't buy that the way it is promoted. If you are no longer a slave to your primal urges then don't even bother having sex or dealing with any woman at all. When you look at it, when guys sex up women and build up notch-counts, then aren't they a slave in some way to that. That just sounds like a more high-level sophisticated slave, but in the end the principle is the same.



You mean like suspension of disbelief, such as buying a lottery ticket and hoping to win, or watching a movie that you like, but knowing that it's not true?



That's fine, but that is not the issue. I'm not making the case that hard self-improvement (ie if possible) might now help improve your looks and translate to a better response among women in the envion, although even that is debatable (ie if everyone self-improves then you don't stand out as much and even chads might experienced a diminishing returns as there are more chads to compete with in the marketplace as everyone jumps on the self-improvement looksmaxxing and gymaxxing bandwagon). However, I am making the case to see if no-fap/no-porn is as helpful and dramatic as it's often portrayed to be.

Remember just the other day you posted to me about semen retention and no-fap as thought it was something that could help.

All I have done so far with that is talk to a single mother, who has a 6 year old daughter and feel thirsty enough to want to date her, but we all know how my ex-wife turned out (ie who also had a 6 year old daughter at the time I dated her). Being too thirsty is not a good thing.

I have known of people who miss the point, but Godam son, you're like a totally special one aren't you.

Please find the threads and link them to me, where No-Fap is being promoted as primarily the best or easiest way to get woman?

I can bet you anything, the vast MAJORITY of people who try no-fap are not pushing the "hey no-fap will get you more girls" narrative.

Most people on No-Fap talk about other benefits, such as higher energy levels, feeling more confident, better results in the gym.. One of the byproducts of No-Fap happens to be more attention from girls.

Again show me the evidence where No-Fap is being sold primarily as a way to get more girls on SS??

Having control over your primal urges?

Why does controling your urges, according to you translate to "might aswell not bother with woman at all"

This is flawed logic.. Controlling your urges with no fap simply means, you are likely to be more selective about who you put your **** inside.

Your less likely to get involved with toxic girls, as you have developed the strength to walk away from attractive but crazy girls.

You are also less likely to be a complete simp, and pay for Only fans and escorts and pornography.

I am guessing you jack of to porn quite alot?

 

[soulforge]

Exactly. As I've mentioned, for practical results from self-improvement, obviously gymmaxxing and looksmaxxing will be the right direction. As no-fap does not improve looks in the same way these other things to, then it is not helpful on its on right.

All I hear from you, are reasons NOT to improve yourself.

Your talking like a heroin addict who never once quit the habit, and consistently talks about, there are no benefits from going clean!!

Have you even once in your Life gone without Jacking off for month? I don't think you have, so how would you know about the benefits.

I'm not suggesting a man shouldn't have sex.. I'm simply saying jacking off to porn and jacking off all the time, it's just not the way forward.

 

[tightgrp]

That is consistent with my experience. I am a big time promoter of no fap and no porn as a lifestyle practice.

Like periodically starting a car engine that sits or exercising valves in a plumbing system, men need to ejac periodically however they do it. Other than that, men should be cultivating themselves into useful people. It's really just a question of if sex is used as a buffer used in place of productivity or as a tool for a specific purpose.

 

[corrector]

All I hear from you, are reasons NOT to improve yourself.

Your talking like a heroin addict who never once quit the habit, and consistently talks about, there are no benefits from going clean!!

Have you even once in your Life gone without Jacking off for month?

Yes, it is documented on one of the threads that is already here.

I don't think you have, so how would you know about the benefits.

I guess you have to find that thread then. The title subject is also no-fap and the thread was made I think in 2021 or something like that. Think it was made by @mikedee even. Like you, he made a thread on no-fap, and I was the only poster, along with himself who was taking it seriously. It was a big nothingburger in the end.

I'm not suggesting a man shouldn't have sex.. I'm simply saying jacking off to porn and jacking off all the time, it's just not the way forward.

Well, for the record of this thread, I have not "jacked off to porn" since Dec 31st, and am obviously not "jacking off all the time". In fact, most of my no-fap energy is now directed against "no-fap/no-porn"before I break this at some point after midnight or whenever after midnight. Just to tear this idea to threads before midnight in ceremonious fashion as part of the process.

Also you did ask me about what my particular porn habits or issues are, which you responsed. As it does not fit into your neat and tidy narrative of what porn addiction is, I see you did not bother replying to it.