Your least favorite seduction guru

[weakepedea]

Whose methods do you dislike the most for whatever reason?

 

[T-Roy]

Mr.Sexy. I only ever read one of his messages on here but it's called Scream and Yell. XD

 

[comic_relief]

comic_relief sucks b*lls.

comic_relief

 

[Patrick124]

mystery is a loser.

 

[robstar]

Yeh not a big fan of Mystery.. way too fake and unnatural

 

[moto]

What do you all think about Mystery Method forums?

http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/

 

[LostAndConfused]

Mystery seems to have the approach so systematic that you can apply a single opening line to EVERY approach with women. And my experience has been slightly different than that. Sometimes when I meet new women I'm not able to use a single opener.

 

[Axcell]

Not familiar with too many gurus, however, each and every guru I know has their flaws. David Deangelo has some great information in a majority of his e-books, but for those of you who have watched his DVD's or listened to his tapes, you'll notice he doesn't come across as half the DJ he is portrayed in his books. His voice is so geeky, and the examples of ****y humour he uses in his tapes are some of the worst examples I have ever heard in my life.

Mystery is not so bad, I personally like his kiss-close, because that is simply golden. However, not too much of a fan of everything else. Than again, I haven't put too much time toward a lot of material from him. Currently reading The Game by Neil Strauss, it's a great read to pick out the best information from Mystery.

 

[Mad Manic]

Mystery is the best, think he's the only one that truly understands the stuff.

 

[Sandow]

Mr.Sexy. I only ever read one of his messages on here but it's called Scream and Yell. XD

This doosh ain't even close to being a guru

 

[Sandow]

I dont really like Deangelo's C/F. If you're average or good looking then you'll just look like a pompous jackass. It's made for guys that desperately need to demonstate value. Plus, if you say some of his routines, it may sound unnatural. Otherwise, his other is stuff is pretty good.

Ross Jefferies is probably the worst. He's the one who uses NLP and patterning. Ok, do not use these patterns! You'll come off as the weirdest, creepiest guy ever lol! However he does have some decent patterns, but they only work on girls that are ALREADY attracted to you, don't use them in PU.

I think Mystery knows his sh!t. However, as this should always be the situation, please use your own material. His canned lines are pretty corny, just understand the concept behind it. He seems to break everything down to a science, and when you do that, it's hard to rufute it.

So Ross is probably the worst, mind you, he's also one of the oldest and first to come on to the seduction scene.

 

[drak_ool]

Sandow, so RJ's stuff only works when a girl is ALREADY attracted to you? well i got news for you, RJ is one of the ugliest mofos around so girls would hardly be attracted to him before he starts talking to them.

 

[potato]

What do you all think about Mystery Method forums?

http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/

The forums are tightly monitored and highly edited. There is no free discussion because whenever anyone posts anything that is not in lock step with the prescribed point of view, it is quickly removed.

 

[Patrick124]

Mystery breaks down and cries and throws a hissy fit twice in The Game. He might know his game, but hes not a DJ. hes a "Pickup Artist." Basically his whole gaming personality is an act that convinces girls to sleep with him.

 

[NewRoutine]

Mr. Hat and Goggles

 

[DonJuan11]

Dr. Laura. I'd like to punch that Bvitch.

And Urkel. That no good kid derserves a beating.

 

[Reluctant_Seducer]

that one guy with the sun glasses and black t-shirt strutting around like a total douchebag at the mall or something..forget his name but the vid was about body language.

 

[War Against Betaism]

Ross Jeffries

 

[MikeYikes122]

Mystery and Ross Jeffries are pretty bad. I can't do the C+F stuff right and I always end up sounding like a jerkoff. Mystery's stuff is too canned.

Joker and Zan Perrigon are my favorites. I could listen to Zan talk for hours.

 

[Sandow]

Sandow, so RJ's stuff only works when a girl is ALREADY attracted to you? well i got news for you, RJ is one of the ugliest mofos around so girls would hardly be attracted to him before he starts talking to them.

In my experience, NLP is more effective to girls that are already interested in you. I've tried doing some NLP and patterning in PU, but it just doesn't sound natural, in comes off sounding rehearsed or fake. Saying these things to someone you don't know just sounds weird, when instead you should be validating and getting to know that person better. However, I do use some phrases here and there. I don't know, maybe he has more material that I'm not aware of.