You will never be alpha male

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MillionBillionaire said:
You seem like the ultimate beta chump.. now your saying I'm fake? How many cold approaches have you done last weekend? Were you the life of a party anywhere?.. got any numbers or potential dates lined up? My guess would be no.. because you seem clueless in general about life.

And yes.. you did need to be there.. because non verbal and how you say it is 90% of an interaction.
Beta chumps claim to be alpha online. Cluless men as you make generaizations.
 

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Yewki said:
You're putting the concept of "alpha" up on a pedestal as some grand illusion. As if its some genetic lottery where all your problems are gone, every woman wants to f*ck you, and life is amazing.

News flash, it doesn't exist. Unicorns don't exist either. If you had what you desired now (i.e. taller and better aesthetics?) you would just find new things to be insecure about. You'd still have excuses for not being "alpha". You'd still yearn for rainbow unicorn land.

You see a guy who is tall and good looking. He's buff and seems to act like a boss. You envy him. He must be "alpha" right? His life must be amazing, right? Wrong. He has his own problems. And every single thing you think he he has that you don't, he takes for granted... because he's too busy worrying about his own set of problems that he's derived from his own situation. He might even be more insecure than you. No one's life is amazing. Yes some people are happier than others, but it all comes down to your state of mind.
Spot on !
 

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Whine, whine, whine. Bítch, bítch, bítch. Boohoo, cry a river. An alpha male isn't determined by aesthetics, if that were the case, models would run the world.

Actually LEARN what an alpha male is, and why we use the term and then come back here and apologize to us for this thread of stupidity.

Man, some of you longtime members, its like not a hint information was passed on to you.
 

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I agree with this post for the most part. No guy on this forum will ever be as alpha as the Rock or Brad Pitt.

But then again there is an obsession on this forum with being alpha. It's almost like alpha males make your **** wet more than hot girls do.
 

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JohnyTheArrow said:
Yes but without the genetic traits you are never going to make it.Zuckerberg can't get sexy and beautiful girl fall in love in him for what he is
What do you consider "making it"? Having beautiful girls show raw desire in you? Again, it mostly comes down to your state of mind, because the physical component to pull that off is pretty straight forward. Eat right. Work your ass off in the gym. Maintain a low body fat %. Have good hygene. Dress well. From this point, it's mostly up to your personality and style. Yeah you can always have better aesthetics. You can always have this and that to give you a better advantage, but complaining about just serves as an excuse to fail in the mental department.

I'm guessing Zuckerberg doesn't care nearly as much about women as most people on this forum do. If he did, he'd probably have a team of trainers and be ripped... instead he'd rather focus on making money and continue being the nerd that he is.
 

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Yewki said:
Eat right. Work your ass off in the gym. Maintain a low body fat %. Have good hygene. Dress well. From this point, it's mostly up to your personality and style.
Doing all of that doesn't make you an alpha when you still are a beta.



Yewki said:
You're putting the concept of "alpha" up on a pedestal as some grand illusion. As if its some genetic lottery where all your problems are gone, every woman wants to f*ck you, and life is amazing.
Thinking with a fake alpha mind set does not make you an alpha. Alphas are born with natural characteristics that makes them alpha. Your speech, mannerisms, body language, natural mind set, being a natural leader is what makes you a true alpha. Adopting a fake mind set where you crack under pressure, have poor body language, not being able to lead is what true betas do since that is not natural to them. Those are true betas at heart and when the time comes their true betaness always comes out. True alphas can handle it since they naturally are.
 

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Octogonal said:
Doing all of that doesn't make you an alpha when you still are a beta.
One of those things you quoted was, "From this point, it's mostly up to your personality and style." I would include the natural characteristics you explained with that.

Octogonal said:
Alphas are born with natural characteristics that makes them alpha. Your speech, mannerisms, body language, natural mind set, being a natural leader is what makes you a true alpha.
I agree, and yet you see betas continually complaining about not being alpha for the wrong reasons, i.e. not tall enough, not ripped enough, not good looking enough, etc.
 

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We don't even completely understand genetics yet, so saying "you can't be an alpha without the genetics for it" is ridiculous. There are far too many variables that play into what we (humans) find attractive. Have you ever thought maybe females are attracted to guys like Channing Tatum because that's the environment we live in. That's what society tells people (women) they should be attracted to. Environment plays a huge role into what we like. Maybe it's not even because he's attractive (facially). Maybe it's because he's in shape and has money. Maybe it's the pre-selection he's got. There could be any number of reasons he is considered attractive. Genetics play a role, but are not everything.

Honestly, OP you're reading way too much into this. Forget about being Alpha or Beta, Nice Guy or Jerk, and just be the best you. B!tching about how genetics, or how you're not attractive enough is the reason you can't get the girls you want is the definition of a weak man.
 

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MillionBillionaire said:
Today... now days... I am alpha as fvck... I walk in to work and say "sup b1tches".. everyone smiles and accepts.. they are beta around me.
Sounds beta. Betas crave attention. Alphas don't.
 

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Peña said:
Sounds beta. Betas crave attention. Alphas don't.
Lol.. stop quoting me you wreak like a beta f@ggot.. oh wait.. am I not alpha because I called you a f@ggot?

Go get some hobbies.. and listen to some Tony Robbins.. ya chode.

Anyways my whole point in commenting in this thread was to say that it is possible to go from Beta to Alpha. And yes I feel alpha as f_ck.. especially considering where I came from.
 

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Alphas and betas fill the same role for women, they are providers and that's it. However the former is more attractive.
 

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If a man is trained in game and will get some confidence will get some women -but- it is never going to be even close to quality and amount of pvssy he would get if he had proper DNA - and science prove that.

Men with macho faces attractive to fertile women, researchers find
When their romantic partners are not quintessentially masculine, women in their fertile phase are more likely to fantasize about masculine-looking men than are women paired with George Clooney types.
"The effects of facial masculinity and attractiveness fit in a larger picture that has emerged," says Garver-Apgar.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/01/110110154651.htm

Now .... how the study was done ? There were shown pictures no 'game' was involved.Nature made women desire alpha seed when are fertile and then desire more beta men for care when they are less fertile or infertile.
 

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JohnyTheArrow said:
I think the article the OP linked to is interesting. Wow, they really dissed Steve Carrel and Conan O'Brian, didn't they? Is it a coincidence they picked two comedians to present as chumps, compared to two dramatic actors presented as alphas? Carrel and O'Brian are just too goofy, I guess. You really think Steve Carrel can't get laid? Or Conan O'Brian, for that matter?

Regarding Jeremy Meeks, he got famous because of one really good photo that he took where he looked kind of like Brad Pitt. Then I remember another photo popping up showing that he had jacked up teeth, and I don't think I've heard of him since. He's probably rotting in prison now.

Anyway, the article talked about how guys don't even like to be around alphas, and they certainly want to keep their women away from them. Sounds like they are talking about a certain kind of alpha, maybe a bully type of alpha. The kind of guy who would make you look like a schlub in front of your girlfriend, lol. Really, I don't think there is just one type of alpha. I think there are different kinds of guys who are alpha or in alpha positions. It's a mistake to think they all share the same traits.

As for Mark Zuckerberg, I would rather have his money than be some tatted up loser that some chick thinks is alpha. Any day of the week.
 

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In social animals, the alpha is the individual in the community with the highest rank. Male or female individuals or both can be alphas, depending on their species. Where one male and one female fulfill this role, they are referred to as the alpha pair. Other animals in the same social group may exhibit deference or other symbolic signs of respect particular to their species towards the alpha or alphas.

That's the definition for you guys... an 'Alpha' male is the leader of the pack. The highest ranking individual in the community.

It is your mind that determines where you are in life, not: 'looking alpha' 'if you aren't Brad Pitt your fvcked' 'your beta, i'm alpha' and to follow from this any stupid comment like the above.

Beating your chest like some caveman is just utter stupidity, it is immature.

There is always going to be someone out there who is more 'alpha' than you, the best thing to do is be the best you can possibly be, improve yourself as much as you can and get as far as you can and be as happy as you can with your life.

If you look like Channing Tatum or whoever, great for you, getting perved on by women will be a lot easier for you on looks alone. HOWEVER a major part of a guy like channing tatums charm is that he has put himself first and achieved MASSIVE success in his life, the two go hand in hand.

By having the right persona there is absolutely no reason any man cannot achieve a high level of success from women.
 

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Jeremy Meeks took a good picture. There was an article of a modeling agent it who went to see him and said in a nice way he is ugly in person
 

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You can look like Channing Tatum and still be a BETA, its all about your mindset, your frame and confidence
 

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If alpha means leader, then it also comes with just as many responsibilities as rights. Few people think about that. Everyone says they want to be the leader, but as soon as the first crisis hits and everyone looks at them in panic asking "what do we do? tell us what to do!" they can't handle it.

Being leader means that if the group fails - you fail. Other people's shortcomings become your problem, when they would not be otherwise. If the group has a problem - it's your problem. Leader of the pack fights the stray dog.

An mma buddy of mine fought in Strikeforce when it was in St Louis. Our trainer was backstage getting him warmed up, and I was going into Scottrade with a dozen or so of our other guys. We had just gotten our tickets from the (dirt bag) promoter running the show. For some reason, half of our tickets worked and the other half wouldn't scan. My ticket and my gf's both worked. But the five or six guys with bad tickets were left outside the gate and couldn't get in.

Normally our trainer is in charge of whatever we're doing and we just follow him. But I was #2, because I worked in promotions and ticketing for our events. I'll never forget these guys - all of them serious mma fighters - calling out my name, and saying "help us! we don't know what to do! what do we do?" They looked like they were about to cry.

I told them to calm down, and that we weren't going to leave them. I sent the guys with good tickets into the venue. Then my gf and I checked back out through the gate, and I just started screaming at anyone who looked official. Finally someone with a clipboard came, and was very nice, and took us all to get new tickets that worked.

Afterward my trainer and I had a good laugh about it. He thought that story was hilarious. "They're like a lost pack of children, aren't they?" he said.
 

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skinnyguy said:
That guy is alpha as fug. Women wanted to leave their husbands for him
Shows ya how silly women are, I'm not sure why thugged out prison tats are appealing lol.
 

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I know plenty of women who leave and cheat on their husbands with jailbirds welcome to the life of a Chicagoan
 

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